Re: Improving GNU make compatibility in BSD make (+ patch)

2002-06-02 Thread Terry Lambert
Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > Writing portable makefiles is already enough of a pain in the ass. No. It's not. I've written Makefile's that predate the consolidation during and after The UNIX Wars; they run fine, unmodified, on 140 different vendor versions of UNIX. You are smearing the necessary

Re: Improving GNU make compatibility in BSD make (+ patch)

2002-06-02 Thread Terry Lambert
Jos Backus wrote: > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 08:07:16PM -0600, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > > --lyndon (who doesn't understand why this is an issue, after having > > just converted a *whole* lot of source to work with > > POSIX make. Standards? Who gives a f*** (I guess ...)) > > I

Re: Improving GNU make compatibility in BSD make (+ patch)

2002-06-02 Thread Terry Lambert
Sergey Babkin wrote: > I would really like all the existing make branches (BSD, GNU, SVR4) > converge to a single syntax. Otherwise it's too much pain, and the > only workaround is either to use only the classic V7 make features > or write makefiles for gmake since it's readily available on all >

Re: Improving GNU make compatibility in BSD make (+ patch)

2002-06-02 Thread Jos Backus
On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 11:28:49PM -0600, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > > "Jos" == Jos Backus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Jos> My proposal for adding $^ as an alias for $> does not add any > Jos> incompatibilities, neither with POSIX nor with any existing BSD > Jos> make. > > Yes

Re: Improving GNU make compatibility in BSD make (+ patch)

2002-06-02 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
> "Jos" == Jos Backus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jos> My proposal for adding $^ as an alias for $> does not add any Jos> incompatibilities, neither with POSIX nor with any existing BSD Jos> make. Yes, and no. Adding new features doesn't break existing code, but it encourages new

Re: Improving GNU make compatibility in BSD make (+ patch)

2002-06-02 Thread Jos Backus
On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 10:39:02PM -0600, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > > "Jos" == Jos Backus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> Writing portable makefiles is already enough of a pain in the > >> ass. > Jos> Writing Makefiles is a pain, period. > > Writing makefiles is easy. Writing

Re: XFree86 4.2.0 & GeForce4 440 Go in Dell Latitude C840

2002-06-02 Thread Steven Goodwin
On Sun, 2 Jun 2002, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: > On Fri, 31 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Sorry for X off topic... > > > > Is anybody here got that combination running? > > Thanks in advance for any possible help, > > If the 'nv' driver won't deal with it you're out of luck until NVIDIA do

Re: Improving GNU make compatibility in BSD make (+ patch)

2002-06-02 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
> "Jos" == Jos Backus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Writing portable makefiles is already enough of a pain in the >> ass. Jos> Writing Makefiles is a pain, period. Writing makefiles is easy. Writing *portable* makefiles is a pain. There *is* a difference. --lyndon To Unsubscri

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Re: Improving GNU make compatibility in BSD make (+ patch)

2002-06-02 Thread Jos Backus
On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 08:33:08PM -0600, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > We are POSIX compliant right now (I think -- I haven't done a strict > comparison between (our) BSD make and POSIX). BSD does have things that > aren't in POSIX, as does GNUmake. Removing the historical BSD syntax > would just bre

Re: Improving GNU make compatibility in BSD make (+ patch)

2002-06-02 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
> "Jos" == Jos Backus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jos> I just checked the Open Group make definition and I can't find Jos> either $^ or $>. So if we want to be truly standards-compliant Jos> perhaps we should remove support for $> :-) We are POSIX compliant right now (I think --

Re: Improving GNU make compatibility in BSD make (+ patch)

2002-06-02 Thread Jos Backus
On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 08:07:16PM -0600, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > --lyndon (who doesn't understand why this is an issue, after having > just converted a *whole* lot of source to work with > POSIX make. Standards? Who gives a f*** (I guess ...)) I just checked the Open Group ma

Re: Improving GNU make compatibility in BSD make (+ patch)

2002-06-02 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
> "Sergey" == Sergey Babkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Sergey> I would really like all the existing make branches (BSD, Sergey> GNU, SVR4) converge to a single syntax. Otherwise it's too Sergey> much pain, and the only workaround is either to use only the Sergey> classic V7 m

Re: Improving GNU make compatibility in BSD make (+ patch)

2002-06-02 Thread Sergey Babkin
Terry Lambert wrote: > > Jos Backus wrote: > > On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 01:38:17AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > The biggest problem with GNU make that I've seen is re-expansion > > > of variable variables. > > > > > > The suggested fix doesn't address that, so it won't fix the most > > > comm

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Re: Adding diffs to commit-mail on the fly

2002-06-02 Thread Matthew Dillon
: :Hi Matt and everyone, : :I remember that Matt had mentioned adding diffs of the commits to the :commit-mail, which would make it possible to quickly view what changed :without leaving the MUA and manually searching for the proper CVS :diff/rdiff incantation to view the diff. : :The idea was re

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Re: XFree86 4.2.0 & GeForce4 440 Go in Dell Latitude C840

2002-06-02 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Fri, 31 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Sorry for X off topic... > > Is anybody here got that combination running? > > I've seen that Linux world did that with Nvidia's help. > How to port their solution into freebsd 4.5 box? > > Thanks in advance for any possible help, If the 'nv' driver