Re: power supplies

2001-09-27 Thread Søren Schmidt
It seems Jim Bryant wrote: > Kent Stewart wrote: > > > There are problems with PSes when you use NICs with wake up > > capability. The NIC may exceed the capability of one of your low > > amperage voltages. > > How much current can wake-on-LAN take? I wouldn't think it would be enough to >over

Re: TCP&IP cksum offload on FreeBSD 4.2

2001-09-27 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Louis A. Mamakos" writes: >The paper that someone mentioned earlier in this thread had some >statistics on various classes of errors. In a nutshell, they put >packet sniffers on 4 different networks, and collected traffic. For >each back packet (where the check

Re: power supplies

2001-09-27 Thread Kent Stewart
Jim Bryant wrote: > > Kent Stewart wrote: > > > There are problems with PSes when you use NICs with wake up > > capability. The NIC may exceed the capability of one of your low > > amperage voltages. > > > > Kent > > How much current can wake-on-LAN take? I wouldn't think it would be enough

calling open() from inside kernel

2001-09-27 Thread Vladimir Dozen
ehlo. I'm creating a patch to kernel that requires to create a set of files; names of files are generated inside kernel, i.e., strings belong to kernel address space. Initially, I tried to use open(), but failed with EFAULT: open() expects filename string is in userspace, and passes

Re: power supplies

2001-09-27 Thread Jim Bryant
Kent Stewart wrote: > There are problems with PSes when you use NICs with wake up > capability. The NIC may exceed the capability of one of your low > amperage voltages. > > Kent How much current can wake-on-LAN take? I wouldn't think it would be enough to overload a power supply unless it o

Re: TCP&IP cksum offload on FreeBSD 4.2

2001-09-27 Thread Julian Elischer
Dan Nelson wrote: > > Something to do would be to enable hardware checksumming on 1/2 your > machines, and compare the bad packet counts at reported by netstat on > the unchanged machines for (say) a 1-month period before and after the > change. That should tell you whether you're gaining or lo

Re: TCP&IP cksum offload on FreeBSD 4.2

2001-09-27 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Sep 27), Louis A. Mamakos said: > And I don't disagree with you, it's wonderful work. > > What I guess I'm trying to get across is that like any tool, it ought to > be used properly and in an informed way. For instance, you can mount a > file system async or with soft updates

Re: TCP&IP cksum offload on FreeBSD 4.2

2001-09-27 Thread Louis A. Mamakos
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > Geez. All I wanted to do was pat Jonathan on the back for coming up > > with what is apparently the most flexible and well though out > > mechanism out there. > > it's great work. I was mainly curious to see if anyone had measured this > kind

Re: power supplies

2001-09-27 Thread Dan
no, it worked when i put it in a different machine that was exactly the same. On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote: > Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 19:59:05 -0700 > From: Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: powe

Re: power supplies

2001-09-27 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 08:04:40PM -0700, Dan wrote: > > ya but even putting the old nic back in the machine does not still boot > up. I don't think this has to do with the nic but you never know. > fxp1: You overloaded and burned out the power supply? Kris msg28792/pgp0.pgp Description

Re: power supplies

2001-09-27 Thread Dan
ya but even putting the old nic back in the machine does not still boot up. I don't think this has to do with the nic but you never know. fxp1: On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Kent Stewart wrote: > Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 19:38:55 -0700 > From: Kent Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: power supplies

2001-09-27 Thread Kent Stewart
Dan wrote: > > I had the stangest situation today where a new nic card was put into a > machine and then the machine did not start up. Placed the old nic card > back in the box and it still did not start up. Switched power supplies > with an exactly equal box and both machine booted up fine. Th

RE: power supplies

2001-09-27 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 28-Sep-2001 Dan wrote: > > I had the stangest situation today where a new nic card was put into a > machine and then the machine did not start up. Placed the old nic card > back in the box and it still did not start up. Switched power supplies > with an exactly equal box and both machine

power supplies

2001-09-27 Thread Dan
I had the stangest situation today where a new nic card was put into a machine and then the machine did not start up. Placed the old nic card back in the box and it still did not start up. Switched power supplies with an exactly equal box and both machine booted up fine. This has happened twice s

Re: ng_bridge

2001-09-27 Thread Julian Elischer
BRIDGE/DUMMYNET/net.link.ether.bridge=1/net.link.ether.bridge_ipfw=1 is one set of bridging code ng_bridge is a completely separate (in my opinion, better, but I'm biased) setr of code. they might interract if you turn them both on at the same time On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Robert Hough wrote:

Re: ng_bridge

2001-09-27 Thread Robert Hough
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001, Julian Elischer wrote: > well, maybe if you told us what you modified, and what happenned. $ diff /usr/share/examples/netgraph/ether.bridge ~/eth_bridge.sh 41,42c41,42 < BRIDGE_IFACES="ed0 fxp0 fxp1" < LOCAL_IFACE="fxp0" --- > BRIDGE_IFACES="vx0 vx1" > LOCAL_IFACE="" A

Re: ng_bridge

2001-09-27 Thread Julian Elischer
well, maybe if you told us what you modified, and what happenned. On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Robert Hough wrote: > Yesterday, I used a script on my bridge that pretty much brought down > the entire network segment it was connected to. The script in question, > was found in /usr/share/examples/net

ng_bridge

2001-09-27 Thread Robert Hough
Yesterday, I used a script on my bridge that pretty much brought down the entire network segment it was connected to. The script in question, was found in /usr/share/examples/netgraph -- called 'ether.bridge'. I modified the script, and ran it -- boom. Problems galore! At the time, the bridge did

Re: more on Re: Please review: bugfix for vinvalbuf()

2001-09-27 Thread Matt Dillon
I totally forgot about that one. Your fix looks good, I'll start testing it. The bigger picture here is that vinvalbuf() is not typically called while a vnode is still active. NFS calls it on active vnodes in order to invalidate the cache when the client detects that the fil

Re: Conclusions on... was Re: More on the cache_purgeleafdirs() routine

2001-09-27 Thread Matt Dillon
: :On Sunday, 23rd September 2001, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: : :>Things to look out for: :> :>1. !ufs filesystems : :I am irredeemably slack for not testing this a lot but... : :I believe I saw bad interactions between vmiodirenable and isofs on 4.3-R. : :I mounted a CD, looked at stuff on it, did

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closing down the squid22/23 ports?

2001-09-27 Thread Adrian Chadd
Hi all, Pardon the cross-posting. :-) I'd like to look at closing down / making inactive the squid22 and squid23 ports. The squid-2.2 and squid-2.3 codebases have been inactive and largely unsupported by the squid developers (read: myself inclusive here) for some time now, and I'd like to point

Re: TCP&IP cksum offload on FreeBSD 4.2

2001-09-27 Thread Ronald G Minnich
On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > Geez. All I wanted to do was pat Jonathan on the back for coming up > with what is apparently the most flexible and well though out > mechanism out there. it's great work. I was mainly curious to see if anyone had measured this kind of problem. Tha

Re: TCP&IP cksum offload on FreeBSD 4.2

2001-09-27 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Louis A. Mamakos writes: > > Folks ought to consider the likelyhood of this class of data > corruption, unlikely as it is, and weigh it along with the impact on > your application, and the differences in performance and loading. > Agreed. Very well said, by the way.. Drew To Unsubscrib

Re: TCP&IP cksum offload on FreeBSD 4.2

2001-09-27 Thread Louis A. Mamakos
> > Louis A. Mamakos writes: > > > I was referring to the case on the transmit side where the wrong > > data get's gathered up by the DMA engine because of software related > > errors. You get a valid checksum, but for the wrong data. You might > > have the wrong data because a drive screw

Re: TCP&IP cksum offload on FreeBSD 4.2

2001-09-27 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Louis A. Mamakos writes: > I was referring to the case on the transmit side where the wrong > data get's gathered up by the DMA engine because of software related > errors. You get a valid checksum, but for the wrong data. You might > have the wrong data because a drive screwed up setting

Re: TCP&IP cksum offload on FreeBSD 4.2

2001-09-27 Thread Louis A. Mamakos
> > Louis A. Mamakos writes: > > The other type of failure you might not catch are software errors; that > > is, where a packet is produced by the network stack and then is > > subsequently stomped on by a random store from some other code. Or > > a mis-programmed I/O card with scatter/gathe

Re: TCP&IP cksum offload on FreeBSD 4.2

2001-09-27 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Ronald G Minnich writes: > On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > At this level, you're basically screwed. A sofware checksum isn't > > even an option on other PCI users, like disk controllers. If you > > don't trust your PCI chipset, what do you do about things like that? > >

Re: TCP&IP cksum offload on FreeBSD 4.2

2001-09-27 Thread Matthew Jacob
Oh, yeah- I forgot about this. Jonathon is a pretty good NetBSD hacker.. On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Sandeep Joshi wrote: > > Ron, > > This may be of interest... > > http://citeseer.nj.nec.com/stone00when.html > > When The CRC and TCP Checksum Disagree > Jonathan Stone, Craig Partridge SIGCOMM >

Re: TCP&IP cksum offload on FreeBSD 4.2

2001-09-27 Thread Ronald G Minnich
On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > At this level, you're basically screwed. A sofware checksum isn't > even an option on other PCI users, like disk controllers. If you > don't trust your PCI chipset, what do you do about things like that? > > I'm rather curious -- what was the proble

Re: TCP&IP cksum offload on FreeBSD 4.2

2001-09-27 Thread Sandeep Joshi
Ron, This may be of interest... http://citeseer.nj.nec.com/stone00when.html When The CRC and TCP Checksum Disagree Jonathan Stone, Craig Partridge SIGCOMM -Sandeep On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Ronald G Minnich wrote: > > I have a question on the checksum offloading. Has anyone measured any > in

Re: TCP&IP cksum offload on FreeBSD 4.2

2001-09-27 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Ronald G Minnich writes: > > you still have a potential problem here with variance in chipsets, namely > the case of broken ABORT or other unusual PCI cycle handling (missed word > problem). I agree it's a low probability. But we've seen it, just a week > or two ago on a brand new box. >

Re: TCP&IP cksum offload on FreeBSD 4.2

2001-09-27 Thread Matthew Jacob
It certainly occurs at a rate to worry one. Alan Poston found definite cases of corruption when doing heavy IDE testing. It varies, motherboard to motherboard. On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Ronald G Minnich wrote: > On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > I just wanted to say that you did a

Re: TCP&IP cksum offload on FreeBSD 4.2

2001-09-27 Thread Ronald G Minnich
On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > No, you're missing the point almost entirely. The checksum is not > skipped. It is calculated by the DMA engine based on the data that's > transferred across the I/O bus on the receiver (and / or the sender). > If the data is incorrect as seen by th

Re: Planet

2001-09-27 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 04:44:31PM +0200, Martin Vana wrote: > Hi, I tried to rebuilt my kernel with device rl0 (NIC PLANET ENW-9503A based on >REALTEK 8139 chip) it has collapsed during make phase. It cannot find files starting >with mii* but they are present. Is it that it cannot find the fil

Planet

2001-09-27 Thread Martin Vana
Hi, I tried to rebuilt my kernel with device rl0 (NIC PLANET ENW-9503A based on REALTEK 8139 chip) it has collapsed during make phase. It cannot find files starting with mii* but they are present. Thank you   Im runnign FreeBSD 4.4(Amnesiac)

Planet

2001-09-27 Thread Martin Vana
Hi, I tried to rebuilt my kernel with device rl0 (NIC PLANET ENW-9503A based on REALTEK 8139 chip) it has collapsed during make phase. It cannot find files starting with mii* but they are present. Thank you   Im runnign FreeBSD 4.4(Amnesiac)

Re: TCP&IP cksum offload on FreeBSD 4.2

2001-09-27 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Louis A. Mamakos writes: > The other type of failure you might not catch are software errors; that > is, where a packet is produced by the network stack and then is > subsequently stomped on by a random store from some other code. Or > a mis-programmed I/O card with scatter/gather capability

Re: TCP&IP cksum offload on FreeBSD 4.2

2001-09-27 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Ronald G Minnich writes: > I have a question on the checksum offloading. Has anyone measured any > incidence of data corruption between the PCI card and memory. In other > words, when you offload checksums the end-to-end checking becomes > card-to-card checking, and the possibility exists th

Re: TCP&IP cksum offload on FreeBSD 4.2

2001-09-27 Thread Louis A. Mamakos
The other type of failure you might not catch are software errors; that is, where a packet is produced by the network stack and then is subsequently stomped on by a random store from some other code. Or a mis-programmed I/O card with scatter/gather capability doesn't pick up what was intended, e

Re: Conclusions on... was Re: More on the cache_purgeleafdirs() routine

2001-09-27 Thread Stephen McKay
On Sunday, 23rd September 2001, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >Things to look out for: > >1. !ufs filesystems I am irredeemably slack for not testing this a lot but... I believe I saw bad interactions between vmiodirenable and isofs on 4.3-R. I mounted a CD, looked at stuff on it, did a lot of othe

Re: arcnet support for FreeBSD (request for review)

2001-09-27 Thread mark tinguely
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 12:59:01PM -0500, mark tinguely wrote: > > > There is nothing like raising a topic that was last seen several months > > ago, but ... > > > > Has there been any serious consideration to committing the arcnet code > > that mentioned on 20 Jul 2001 (http://iclub.nsu.

Re: TCP&IP cksum offload on FreeBSD 4.2

2001-09-27 Thread Ronald G Minnich
On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > I just wanted to say that you did a hell of a job with the csum > offload stuff in FreeBSD. FreeBSD is the only OS that I'm aware of > which allows a driver to choose not to handle csum'ing IP frags on > transmit. Having the option to not handle fra

Re: arcnet support for FreeBSD (request for review)

2001-09-27 Thread Max Khon
hi, there! On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 12:59:01PM -0500, mark tinguely wrote: > There is nothing like raising a topic that was last seen several months > ago, but ... > > Has there been any serious consideration to committing the arcnet code > that mentioned on 20 Jul 2001 (http://iclub.nsu.ru/~fjo