In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matthew Dillon writes:
>:The SA can be averaged out, but you need to have another source of
>:time as well as GPS. GPS alone will give you a grid square you are
>:in, but the nature of the pseudorandom noise is such that you don't
>:get a nice sine wave (collapsing
I don't mean to be demeaning, but can we all please not comment and run an
off-topic thread on something that should be deleted and ignored? Please
stick to the list topic and leave spam alone, ignoring it like it should
be.
Simply report to the abuse mail addresses of the originating or carryin
:If you watch a system that is measuring this, you'll see that one
:second you are 65ns slow. The next you are 64 ns slow, the next you
:are 68ns slow the next you are 65ns slow. Come back an hour later and
:you'll find you are 135ns fast, then 130ns fast, then 140ns fast.
:After lunch it might
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Matthew Dillon writes:
: SA can *not* be averaged out. People... SA is NOT NOISE. I will
: repeat that. SA is NOT NOISE. SA is an intentional error
: introduced by the satellites that looks like a drunk walking around
: the town. It takes a
:#14 0xc0227c57 in trap (frame={tf_fs = 24, tf_es = -675545072,
: tf_ds = -1058602992, tf_edi = -1059013248, tf_esi = 28,
: tf_ebp = -8360071, tf_isp = -8360160, tf_ebx = -1058670080,
: tf_edx = -1059008325, tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = -1059168256, tf_trapno = 12,
: tf_err = 2, tf
:The SA can be averaged out, but you need to have another source of
:time as well as GPS. GPS alone will give you a grid square you are
:in, but the nature of the pseudorandom noise is such that you don't
:get a nice sine wave (collapsing for a moment to 1 dimention). It is
:much more distorted
Old trace deleted.. :)
> >> Interesting. That explains the splbio, anyway. The real problem is
> >> at frame 15, in bpfioctl, but the system trapped while trying to sync
> >> before dumping.
> >>
> >> As mentioned in the handbook, you need symbols in your kernel in order
> >> to find out any
I, for one, think that installing the stripped kernel is the correct
solution. I often have several kernels lying around in / (e.g. a
kernel.bak along with the kernel and kernel.old the system maintains),
and my poor root partition would run out of space fairly quickly
if they
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Matthew Dillon writes:
: No, you can't just average several measurements w/ SA on and expect
: to get any improvement. SA isn't just 'noise', it's like a
: drunken walker. All you get when you average several measurements
: is the location of the d
On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 06:27:32PM +0100, Dave West wrote:
>
> Actually it's better to just tell AllAdvantage.com and they will cancell
> his account and bar him for life.
>
So he can use another false name with another ISP.
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On Wednesday, 3 May 2000 at 18:59:36 -0700, Jan Koum wrote:
> On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 11:11:36AM +0930, Greg Lehey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Ah, then you're in better shape. I assume you installed the stripped
>> version of the kernel (it's default, despite my protests)
>
> what are some
On Wednesday, 3 May 2000 at 21:24:47 -0400, Howard Leadmon wrote:
>
>>> OK, well as I don't remember what options had been in what kernel
>>> from the old crashes, I just setup the machine to generate more
>>> crash dumps and sure enough it was willing to give me one
>>> quickly.. :)
>>>
>>> Here
> > OK, well as I don't remember what options had been in what kernel
> > from the old crashes, I just setup the machine to generate more
> > crash dumps and sure enough it was willing to give me one
> > quickly.. :)
> >
> > Here is a backtrace done on the dump I got only a few minutes ago,
> > a
On Wed, 3 May 2000, Christopher T. Griffiths wrote:
> Would you mind letting me know when this is done? I appreciate the
> response.
jlemon has committed the fix.
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I'm working on converting some of the older drivers to newbus and
need hardware or testers to verify that this stuff still works.
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I have patches for some of them on my web
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On Wednesday, 3 May 2000 at 19:53:11 -0400, Howard Leadmon wrote:
>
> OK, well as I don't remember what options had been in what kernel
> from the old crashes, I just setup the machine to generate more
> crash dumps and sure enough it was willing to give me one
> quickly.. :)
>
> Here is a backt
OK, well as I don't remember what options had been in what kernel from the
old crashes, I just setup the machine to generate more crash dumps and sure
enough it was willing to give me one quickly.. :)
Here is a backtrace done on the dump I got only a few minutes ago, also please
note that curren
On Wednesday, 3 May 2000 at 10:24:36 -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote:
> Judging by your original bug report, Howard, it seems likely that either
> the machine or the network the machine is sitting on is being attacked
> and the machine is running out of some resource (probably network mbu
Excellent,
Would you mind letting me know when this is done? I appreciate the
response.
Thanks a whole bunch.
Chris
On Wed, 3 May 2000, Matthew N. Dodd wrote:
> On Wed, 3 May 2000, Christopher T. Griffiths wrote:
> > I sent this to freebsd-questions with no luck. I am desperately
> > trying
:Even with SA, much more accurate numbers could be obtained by averaging
:several measurements. I think that the speed at which the earth's
:plates move is slow enough to get a good average measurement (except
:during an earthquake, of course!).
:
:-brian
:
:--
:Brian O'Shea
No, you can't j
Acool :-)
On Wed, 3 May 2000, Warner Losh wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Marc
>Nicholas writes:
> : Isn't that the idea behind Differential-GPS?
>
> Not quite. The Differential GPS has GPS receievers at locations that
> have been surveyed down to the millimeter. The DGPS sof
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Marc
Nicholas writes:
: Isn't that the idea behind Differential-GPS?
Not quite. The Differential GPS has GPS receievers at locations that
have been surveyed down to the millimeter. The DGPS software then
calculates the offset from the current GPS signal and sends
On Wed, 3 May 2000, Brian O'Shea wrote:
> Even with SA, much more accurate numbers could be obtained by averaging
> several measurements. I think that the speed at which the earth's
> plates move is slow enough to get a good average measurement (except
> during an earthquake, of course!).
Isn
On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 10:15:28PM +0200, Alexander Langer wrote:
> Thus spake Brooks Davis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
> > feature. He mounts them on buildings around SoCal with dataloggers to
> > determine building movement due to earthquakes and general plate
> > movement.
>
> 2-3 mm is exact eno
This is both a heads up and a, well, ok, and a solicitation. I'll admit
it!
As many of you know I was a founder of BEST Internet, an ISP which was
eventually sold to Verio at the end of 1998. I've also been extremely
active in the FreeBSD community. Throughout 1999 I've b
On Wed, 3 May 2000, Christopher T. Griffiths wrote:
> I sent this to freebsd-questions with no luck. I am desperately
> trying to figure out this problem.
I'll MFC the fix for this later this week.
> Christopher T. Griffiths
> Engineering Department
> Quansoo Group Inc.
> [EMAIL P
Howard,
I'm facing the same problem. I am running 4.0-current / 4.0-stable
on a Dual-PIII-733, 1GB RAM, 2 Adaptec, 300GB disk. I have had
sudden crashes/reboots as bad as not even producing core dumps or
dropping into kernel debugger.
I had several guesses, one of which was the 64K block size on
No, I'm afraid I can't quite agree. A major distinguishing feature of *BSD vs.
GPL'd systems is that they can ship unencumbered. The article in the URL does
not specifically show that *BSD, or products derived and containing, could
*not* be so encumbered.
So, yes, I'd still have some concerns.
Concern over LZW caused Legato to invent their own compression, so, I'd say,
yes, there's concern.
On Wed, 3 May 2000, Warner Losh wrote:
> It was my understanding that compress was covered by the unisys lzw
> patents. Are there issues with including it in the tree? Is there
> some license f
phk pointed me at
http://mordor.lpt.fi/doc/ncompress/copyright
which says that we're as safe as one can be. So forget that I
mentioned it.
Warner
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On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 10:25:55PM +0200, Alexander Langer wrote:
> Thus spake David Holloway ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
> > You are associating one persons accuracy numbers with
> > someone elses experiments.
>
> Ah. So what are the prof's accuracy numbers?
Thus spake David Holloway ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> You are associating one persons accuracy numbers with
> someone elses experiments.
Ah. So what are the prof's accuracy numbers?
Alex
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It was my understanding that compress was covered by the unisys lzw
patents. Are there issues with including it in the tree? Is there
some license from Unisys that I'm unaware of that allows its use? Are
we going to be a target of the Unisys legal department if we keep it
in the tree. They ar
You are associating one persons accuracy numbers with
someone elses experiments.
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alexander Langer writ
es:
>Thus spake Brooks Davis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
>> feature. He mounts them on buildings around SoCal with dataloggers to
>> determine building movement due t
Thus spake Brooks Davis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> feature. He mounts them on buildings around SoCal with dataloggers to
> determine building movement due to earthquakes and general plate
> movement.
2-3 mm is exact enough for this?
Alex
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On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 01:57:08PM -0600, Nate Williams wrote:
> My former employer (SRI) has done lots of research, and have gotten a
> receiver good to 1cm, but it takes about 24 hours for it to
> 'synchronize' to that accuracy. With dual receivers, you can get 2-3 mm
> accuracy by comparing th
> > satellites sitting thousands of miles away in the sky. It's even more
> > impressive to see the government do something right for a change!
>
> It's much more idiotic that the government prevented it before.
>
> That just means that military use is even better already, i.e. I just
>
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matthew Dillon writes:
> >Ok, this has nothing to do with FreeBSD, but I just had to post
> >something since nobody else has.
> >
> >By presidential order, on May 1 the error introduced into the GPS
> >system, called '
:
:In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alexander Langer writ
:es:
:>Thus spake Matthew Dillon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
:>
:>> satellites sitting thousands of miles away in the sky. It's even more
:>> impressive to see the government do something right for a change!
:>
:>It's much more idiotic th
Out of the ether, Matthew Dillon spewed forth the following bitstream:
> That's what my brother Ben told me, though he used the example of
> an 18 wheeler plowing into my (airbagless) Subaru. I think he's going
> to force me to buy a new car :-)
Seeing his input to the FreeBSD community, I thi
Thus spake Poul-Henning Kamp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> >> not supposed to know about how it works) which gives them an even more
> >> interesting and powerful DOS on the GPS system. I doesn't quite work
> >> by postal code, but it comes *very* close.
> >what is a DOS?-)
> Denial Of Service.
Oh. DO
On Wed, 03 May 2000, Matthew Dillon wrote:
> Ok, this has nothing to do with FreeBSD, but I just had to post
> something since nobody else has.
>
Actually this is pretty relevant to network applications
Here is some more info from a mailing list I maintain
of tech clippings and other s
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alexander Langer writ
es:
>Thus spake Poul-Henning Kamp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
>> not supposed to know about how it works) which gives them an even more
>> interesting and powerful DOS on the GPS system. I doesn't quite work
>> by postal code, but it comes *very* c
Thus spake Poul-Henning Kamp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> not supposed to know about how it works) which gives them an even more
> interesting and powerful DOS on the GPS system. I doesn't quite work
> by postal code, but it comes *very* close.
what is a DOS?-)
> >That just means that military use i
On Wed, 3 May 2000, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
> With the update I made, the sort will be stable because the two
> filenames will not be equal. Please try the update at:
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=18361
> [PATCH] Fix for queue-ordering problem in lpr/lpd/lpq
>
> or pick
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alexander Langer writ
es:
>Thus spake Matthew Dillon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
>> satellites sitting thousands of miles away in the sky. It's even more
>> impressive to see the government do something right for a change!
>
>It's much more idiotic that the gove
Thus spake Matthew Dillon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> satellites sitting thousands of miles away in the sky. It's even more
> impressive to see the government do something right for a change!
It's much more idiotic that the government prevented it before.
That just means that military use i
:Just don't be so amazed and bump into the nearest McD recycling truck ;-)
:
:But yes: this is cool..
:
:--
:Wilko BultePowered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org
That's what my brother Ben told me, though he used the example of
an 18 wheeler plowing into my (airbagless
On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 10:44:50AM -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote:
> Ok, this has nothing to do with FreeBSD, but I just had to post
> something since nobody else has.
>
> By presidential order, on May 1 the error introduced into the GPS
> system, called 'SA', was turned off.
>
>
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matthew Dillon writes:
>Ok, this has nothing to do with FreeBSD, but I just had to post
>something since nobody else has.
>
>By presidential order, on May 1 the error introduced into the GPS
>system, called 'SA', was turned off.
>
>This means th
Ok, this has nothing to do with FreeBSD, but I just had to post
something since nobody else has.
By presidential order, on May 1 the error introduced into the GPS
system, called 'SA', was turned off.
This means that your GPS receivers are now around 5-10 times more accurate
I am looking for someone to write a column/series on programming in C on
BSD unix.
The series would be aimed at beginners, in hopes of getting more people
started in developing BSD code. It should contain some methodology behind
the commit process and code correctness.
Please respond to me dire
On Wed, 3 May 2000, Dhar wrote:
> > Join now (there's no survey to fill out) at
> > http://www.alladvantage.com/home.asp?refid=LZG150 and please
> > use my membership ID (LZG-150) when asked if you were referred
> > by someone. And http://cheetahtech.cjb.net
>
> Darling, here is what
Judging by your original bug report, Howard, it seems likely that either
the machine or the network the machine is sitting on is being attacked
and the machine is running out of some resource (probably network mbufs).
Increasing the NMBCLUSTERS any more will probably not help.
In muc.lists.freebsd.hackers, you wrote:
>
> As it stands, however, 1.2.2 will not have a JIT either, unless someone
> finds a way to persuade Sun to help us out on this one.
>
> There are a number of JIT's available in the ports collection. Install and
> use those. I have a description that Fuy
(excessive cross-posts removed from CC list)
On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 10:01:41PM -0700, Dragos Ruiu wrote:
> I would recommend that everyone who received this forward it back to
> Mr. Pio at [EMAIL PROTECTED] to make the point that this is
> unacceptable behaviour.
That's assuming that <[EMAIL PR
On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 01:32:56PM +0100, Koster, K.J. wrote:
> $ fetch ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/.../cvsup.tgz
> $ pkg_add cvsup.tgz
$ pkg_add -r cvsup-bin
-r figures out the ... magic for you.
> $ vi ...
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"Christopher T. Griffiths" wrote:
>
> I sent this to freebsd-questions with no luck. I am desperately trying to
> figure out this problem.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
Have you looked at this article on DaemonNews ?
http://www.daemonnews.org/23/cpqraid.html
Jim
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I sent this to freebsd-questions with no luck. I am desperately trying to
figure out this problem.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Chris
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Hello everyone,
I have been working for a go
At 7:56 AM -0500 5/3/00, Chris Dillon wrote:
>That isn't the problem. You can sleep as much as you want between
>submitting the print jobs and the job order still gets munged.
>Even a job that at one time had #1 rank gets inverted and ends up
>with the lowest rank.
He's saying that you could wor
In the last episode (May 03), Chris Dillon said:
> On Tue, 2 May 2000, Dan Nelson wrote:
> > Aha. Yes, it _does_ do FIFO, but if you look at the source, the
> > queue sorting routine simply sorts on stat(mtime) of the queue
> > file, so jobs submitted in the same second will sort randomly. A
> >
On Tue, 2 May 2000, Eric D. Futch wrote:
> I recall someone on the freebsd-mobile mailing list having a similar
> problem. What I told them to try was using options VESA in their
> kernel config or use the vesa.ko kernel module. I looked at it a little
> more closely and it appears that you mig
Hello,
Does anybody have experience with this Epox
MB?
http://www.epox.com/html/english/products/motherboard/ep-bxb-s.htm
1 GB Ram
2 Pentium III Slot 1 650 MHz
Matrox Mill G400 360 Ramdac
UW SCSI
I'm planning to run 4.0-RELEASE.
Also, if anybody have experience with FBSD and a
Raid(HW)
On Tue, 2 May 2000, Dan Nelson wrote:
> In the last episode (May 02), Chris Dillon said:
> > On Tue, 2 May 2000, Konrad Heuer wrote:
> > > Hmm, I've never seen such a strange behaviour. Lpd should do FIFO.
> > > Could you give some more infos about your environment (os release,
> > > input filter
Hi guys,
We're in the process of porting JDK 1.2.2. Sun has not released their JIT
under the SCSL, unfortunately. If we're lucky, Sun will give us a break and
give us access to that code under a special license. They did that for the
Blackdown porting team.
As it stands, however, 1.2.2 will not
What's wrong with:
$ fetch ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/.../cvsup.tgz
$ pkg_add cvsup.tgz
$ vi ...
?
Kees Jan
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: bin/18361: [PATCH] Fix for queue-ordering problem in
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> Yes I think it works fine now.
>
> Do you think that the lim
hi, there!
On Wed, 3 May 2000, Alexander Voropay wrote:
> see
> http://www.volano.com/report.html
> for details
(quoting from their page)
JDK 1.1.8 FreeBSD
JDK 1.1.8 for FreeBSD
FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE
Java version "jdk1.1.8-FreeBSD:1999/7/19"
Installed from
Well I actually have two prior crashes that I did save before I turned off
the dumpsaves to avoid running out of drive space, and as I am by no means
a gdb user if you could tell me what your looking for I'll be happy to fire
up gdb and send you the info.
Here is what I grabbed out of the /va
Hi!
see
http://www.volano.com/report.html
for details
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On Wednesday, 3 May 2000 at 3:48:42 -0400, Howard Leadmon wrote:
>
>Hello,
>
> I know I posted a few messages here in the past, but maybe someone who is
> good at tracking kernel problems can step up and lend a hand.
>
> I have a machine running FBSD 4.0-STABLE, and have been experiencing
:
:i agree with peter. first thing i do after a fresh OS install is ftp over
:binary from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CVSup/binaries/
:
:the next thing is do is:
:$ cp /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ .
:$ vi
:$ ./cvsup -g -L 2
:
:so your change won't be the end of the day, but it will just extr
Hello,
I know I posted a few messages here in the past, but maybe someone who is
good at tracking kernel problems can step up and lend a hand.
I have a machine running FBSD 4.0-STABLE, and have been experiencing almost
daily kernel panics or reboots on the machine. I have replaced ALL of
Does anyone have any idea about when a snapshot for -current will be
available ?
Darren
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Looking through /sys/netinet, it would appear that sometimes inetsw[]
is "struct protosw" and others "struct ipprotosw". Which is it meant
to be ? If ipprotosw is the same as protosw, why does ipprotosw exist ?
e.g.
in_proto.c:struct ipprotosw inetsw[] = {
in_proto.c: (struct protosw *)ine
i agree with peter. first thing i do after a fresh OS install is ftp over
binary from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CVSup/binaries/
the next thing is do is:
$ cp /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ .
$ vi
$ ./cvsup -g -L 2
so your change won't be the end of the day, but it will just extra step.
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