Re: zsh compdef collection for FreeBSD

2000-03-30 Thread Shigeyuki Fukushima
> Why not we collect those useful compdef's to send to the zsh > development team? You know, the latest zsh 3.1.6-dev-19 includes > Debian specific functions in `Completion/Debian', then why not we have > ours? I'm afraid that zsh will only have Linux/Solaris oriented > configurations if we don'

Re: USB Installation - Working Release!

2000-03-30 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John Baldwin writes: :until userconfig is moved out to the loader where it arguably :belongs. It should be almost trivially easy to write the userconfig in the boot loader now that I have my hint driver working. All it would have to do is put a bunch of hin

Re: NO_SENDMAIL in /etc/make.conf

2000-03-30 Thread Peter Wemm
Steve Ames wrote: > > I have NO_SENDMAIL= true in /etc/make.conf but sendmail got rebuilt > on the last makeworld anyway... this is -CURRENT from this morning > (3/30). > > -Steve man mailwrapper man mailer.conf Then see /etc/mail/mailer.conf Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EM

realigning mbufs?

2000-03-30 Thread Jonathan Chen
I'm writing some network card drivers and have ran into a problem with mbuf alignment. In summary, the problem is that the network card expects its transmit buffers to be double word aligned, while I'm getting tx mbufs that are single word aligned. The details: The card in question is the IBM Et

NO_SENDMAIL in /etc/make.conf

2000-03-30 Thread Steve Ames
I have NO_SENDMAIL= true in /etc/make.conf but sendmail got rebuilt on the last makeworld anyway... this is -CURRENT from this morning (3/30). -Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: Proposed new Bourne shell init files

2000-03-30 Thread Doug Barton
Christian Weisgerber wrote: > > Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Commentary on my files. . . Using allexport instead of an explicit > > 'export' for every variable makes the file easier to read, and gives a > > novice user one less thing to worry about. > > I think Sue has a m

usb stuff

2000-03-30 Thread David Yeske
I am using a usb mouse, and dlink ethernet nic connected to a belkin usb hub in FreeBSD 4.0R. I also have a "Solidtek ACK-298" keyboard, but I have not gotten any progress out of it in freebsd. Has anyone tried usb "direct connect" with freebsd? That would be much cooler than plip I think...

Re: USB Installation - Working Release!

2000-03-30 Thread Mike Smith
via > 'make release LOCAL_PATCHES=usb.release.patch'. A release of > -current made with this patch can be found at > ftp://ftp.Baldwin.cx/pub/FreeBSD/5.0-BALDWIN_CX-USB-2330/ > > > 1) The kernel userconfig does not work with a USB keyboard. The >result is

Re: BSDs

2000-03-30 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 30 March 2000 at 23:19:24 +, Gustavo V G C Rios wrote: > Matthew Dillon wrote: >> It's still a bad idea to post this sort of question to both mailing >> lists. > > Sorry, i did not realized that! > Next time, i'll be carefull! FWIW, that's Matt's opinion. I don't necessa

USB Installation - Working Release!

2000-03-30 Thread John Baldwin
ke release LOCAL_PATCHES=usb.release.patch'. A release of -current made with this patch can be found at ftp://ftp.Baldwin.cx/pub/FreeBSD/5.0-BALDWIN_CX-USB-2330/ 1) The kernel userconfig does not work with a USB keyboard. The result is that we can't put INTRO_USERCONFIG into the install

Re: BSDs

2000-03-30 Thread Gustavo V G C Rios
Matthew Dillon wrote: > It's still a bad idea to post this sort of question to both mailing > lists. Sorry, i did not realized that! Next time, i'll be carefull! -- If you're happy, you're successful. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers"

Re: BSDs

2000-03-30 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Hy folks! : :1) What are the advantages/disadavantages of using FreeBSD or OpenBSD? :.. : :PS: I am not asking which is the best OS (a kind of question that should :never be asked). :I only want to know the good/bad things about both of them, since no :OS is perfect! It's still a bad ide

BSDs

2000-03-30 Thread Gustavo V G C Rios
Hy folks! I have been playing with FreeBSD for the last 1 year and some time ago i decide to give openbsd a try. I have been loving Free! Now, playing with Open is no trouble. Some questions came up: 1) What are the advantages/disadavantages of using FreeBSD or OpenBSD? 2) FreeBSD has proven t

Re: Anybody have tools to read a Digital Unix "vdump" tape on FreebSD?

2000-03-30 Thread Sergey Babkin
Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 03:59:52PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Does anybody know of tools to read a Digital Unix "vdump" tape on FreeBSD? > > I have a number of such tapes, and would prefer to read them on an (Intel) > > FreeBSD box instead of having to reinstall DU

Re: Proposed new Bourne shell init files

2000-03-30 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Commentary on my files. . . Using allexport instead of an explicit > 'export' for every variable makes the file easier to read, and gives a > novice user one less thing to worry about. I think Sue has a made a good argument against allexport. Also,

Re: Shared /bin and /sbin

2000-03-30 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Warner Losh: > copies of libc in /sbin and /bin. I was thinking about building, for > this system only, /bin and /sbin dynamic. Has anybody ever done this? Ask Bruce. He used to have a completely dynamic system a while ago... -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=-

Re: Proposed new Bourne shell init files

2000-03-30 Thread Doug Barton
The use of allexport in my previous submission was considered "too clever," and the source of possible user confusion. Rather than fight that battle, here is a version with explicit exporting of variables, and a helpful message at the top that attempts to explain why exporting is important

RE: Deferred procedure call available?

2000-03-30 Thread Eric Peterson
> -Original Message- Samuel Tardieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] writes: > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 11:46 AM > To: Eric Peterson > Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: Re: Deferred procedure call available? > > > > "Eric" == Eric Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Eric> So

Re: Proposed new Bourne shell init files

2000-03-30 Thread Doug Barton
On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 9:58 AM -0800 3/30/00, Doug Barton wrote: > >Sue Blake wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 10:45:21PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: > > > > Commentary on my files. . . Using allexport instead of an explicit > > > > 'export' for every variable

Re: Proposed new Bourne shell init files

2000-03-30 Thread Sue Blake
On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 09:58:29AM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: > Sue Blake wrote: > > It would be a good addition to a separate file with lengthy comments, > > supplied as an alternative and/or learning exercise. > > Actually I added the comments I did to the file (in more places than > jus

Re: 4.0-RELEASE, PCMCIA, DHCP and IP

2000-03-30 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Shaun Amy, CSIRO TIP/ATNF" writes: : The only problem is (and this sounds silly) is that with the PCMCIA card : configured with DHCP addresses it won't pass any IP traffic, even a ping to : another machine on the same subnet fails (so it isn't a routing issue).

Re: Deferred procedure call available?

2000-03-30 Thread Samuel Tardieu
> "Eric" == Eric Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Eric> Sometimes called "task queues" or "deferred callbacks", they Eric> allow an interrupt handler to schedule a (possibly predefined) Eric> function to be called outside the context of the interrupt. (not an answer, just a suggestion) I

Re: Proposed new Bourne shell init files

2000-03-30 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 9:58 AM -0800 3/30/00, Doug Barton wrote: >Sue Blake wrote: > > > > On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 10:45:21PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: > > > Commentary on my files. . . Using allexport instead of an explicit > > > 'export' for every variable makes the file easier to read, and gives > > > a novice use

Re: Remote GDB and call stack

2000-03-30 Thread Julian Elischer
sometimes the low tech answer of using ^T can help On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Samuel Tardieu wrote: > On 30/03, Samuel Tardieu wrote: > > | I can enter remote gdb just fine using the keyboard interrupt, but the > | call stack is pretty useless to me: > > Nevermind, setting breakpoints when not know

Re: Deferred procedure call available?

2000-03-30 Thread Mike Smith
> Hi, > Is there a facility in FreeBSD to do a deferred procedure call? > Sometimes called "task queues" > or "deferred callbacks", they allow an interrupt handler to schedule > a (possibly predefined) function to > be called outside the context of the interrupt. > > I dug

Re: Remote GDB and call stack

2000-03-30 Thread Samuel Tardieu
On 30/03, Samuel Tardieu wrote: | I can enter remote gdb just fine using the keyboard interrupt, but the | call stack is pretty useless to me: Nevermind, setting breakpoints when not knowing at all where it blocks is a pain but the dichotomy method should work. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [E

Remote GDB and call stack

2000-03-30 Thread Samuel Tardieu
I am investigating i386/17228 (Installation floppies hang up on Compaq Armada V300 laptop) that I submitted. I built a custom kernel with no SCSI at all (it had been suggested that NCR probes could be the cause of the lockups) and with remote gdb enabled. I can enter remote gdb just fine using t

The socket structure & igmpv3

2000-03-30 Thread Wilbert de Graaf
Hello all, I'm working on an implementation of the IGMPv3 protocol in the Net/3 stack, and several questions popped up. The first one is about the socket structure. The IGMPv3 protocol allows a process to set (ip)source filters, which is a list of ip addresses of sources which indicates the pro

Re: Mirror requirements

2000-03-30 Thread John Baldwin
On 30-Mar-00 Jesper Skriver wrote: > On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 09:42:42AM -0500, Patrick Gardella wrote: >> Lloyd Rennie wrote: >> > >> > I sent this to -questions, but have received no reply. Sorry to bug >> > y'all, but... >> > >> > What are the hardware and bandwidth requirements to maintain

Re: Proposed new Bourne shell init files

2000-03-30 Thread Doug Barton
Sue Blake wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 10:45:21PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: > > > > > Commentary on my files. . . Using allexport instead of an explicit > > 'export' for every variable makes the file easier to read, and gives a > > novice user one less thing to worry about. > > I

Re: Proposed new Bourne shell init files

2000-03-30 Thread Doug Barton
Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Doug Barton writes: > : --- /usr/src/share/skel/dot.cshrc Sat Mar 25 15:23:36 2000 > : +++ /usr/src/etc/root/dot.cshrc Sat Mar 25 15:23:43 2000 > : @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ > ... > : if ($?prompt) then > : # An interactive shell -- set s

Deferred procedure call available?

2000-03-30 Thread Eric Peterson
Hi, Is there a facility in FreeBSD to do a deferred procedure call? Sometimes called "task queues" or "deferred callbacks", they allow an interrupt handler to schedule a (possibly predefined) function to be called outside the context of the interrupt. I dug a bit a

Re: Mirror requirements

2000-03-30 Thread Jesper Skriver
On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 09:42:42AM -0500, Patrick Gardella wrote: > Lloyd Rennie wrote: > > > > I sent this to -questions, but have received no reply. Sorry to bug > > y'all, but... > > > > What are the hardware and bandwidth requirements to maintain a full > > FreeBSD mirror site? > > Having

Re: Mirror requirements

2000-03-30 Thread Patrick Gardella
Lloyd Rennie wrote: > > I sent this to -questions, but have received no reply. Sorry to bug > y'all, but... > > What are the hardware and bandwidth requirements to maintain a full > FreeBSD mirror site? Having asked this before, I can try to answer it... Hardware: Disk space to hold the part

Mirror requirements

2000-03-30 Thread Lloyd Rennie
I sent this to -questions, but have received no reply. Sorry to bug y'all, but... What are the hardware and bandwidth requirements to maintain a full FreeBSD mirror site? -- Lloyd Rennie VBCnet GB Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel +44 (0) 117 929 1316http://www.vbc

Re: 4.0-RELEASE, PCMCIA, DHCP and IP

2000-03-30 Thread Richard Wackerbarth
On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Shaun Amy, CSIRO TIP/ATNF wrote: > Basically I am trying to install 4.0-RELEASE (off a CD I burnt from the ISO > image whilst I wait for the WC CD kit) on a Dell Latitude CPi laptop (which > has run FreeBSD 2.2.x and FreeBSD 3.2 in the past). I boot off floppy, do > the inst

Re: Shared /bin and /sbin

2000-03-30 Thread Ville-Pertti Keinonen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Warner Losh) writes: > I have a system that has one file system on it (eg everything is on > /). I'm finding that a lot of space is wasted on the multiple static > copies of libc in /sbin and /bin. I was thinking about building, for > this system only, /bin and /sbin dynamic

4.0-RELEASE, PCMCIA, DHCP and IP

2000-03-30 Thread Shaun Amy, CSIRO TIP/ATNF
Hi, If the subject line hasn't put you off then no doubt after reading this you will think I am crazy in a fairly standard configuration almost works but for the networking... Basically I am trying to install 4.0-RELEASE (off a CD I burnt from the ISO image whilst I wait for the WC CD kit) on a

Re: BSD VS BDS

2000-03-30 Thread Martin Cracauer
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Holloway wrote: > Oh I completely disagree. > Many serious orgnanizations and people concerned > with stability work with 3.x and plan on sticking with > 3.x until many of the serious changes to 4.0 have proven > themselves. > > The gcc (2.9.x -- 3.x) compiler for e

Re: BSD VS BDS

2000-03-30 Thread David Holloway
Oh I completely disagree. Many serious orgnanizations and people concerned with stability work with 3.x and plan on sticking with 3.x until many of the serious changes to 4.0 have proven themselves. The gcc (2.9.x -- 3.x) compiler for example, has only just recently become as rock solid as the st

hardware donation needed

2000-03-30 Thread Bill Swingle
Hey all, In the past few months we've received quite a few test machines from different companies requesting that we verify that FreeBSD runs well on their hardware. This on top of the normal circus of machines that we use for release testing and development has exceeded our small network's capac

Re: Shoot the messenger..

2000-03-30 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 04:57:11 EST, "[ -dp- ]" wrote: >  Could anyone offer me some idea of what is happening here? Kernel > is 3.4-Stable . Problem just started about a month ago. Not on this mailing list, no. Please redirect your question (in plain text) to the freebsd-questions mailing list.

Re: BSD VS BDS

2000-03-30 Thread Martin Cracauer
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, p_a_r wrote: > Ok but i downloaded the 3.3-stable is there some problems whit that > and whats so good in the new 4.0?? Oh no, not again. 3.3 is not "bad", but I would recommend updating to 4.0/4.1 instead of 3.4/3.5 when the time comes. Higher 3.x releases - in my opi

Shoot the messenger..

2000-03-30 Thread [ -dp- ]
   Could anyone offer me some idea of what is happening here? Kernel is 3.4-Stable . Problem just started about a month ago. Problem only occurs under low loads. Mar 30 03:25:35 dissent /kernel: wd1s1f: wdstart: timeout waiting to give command writing fsbn 196672 of 196672-196687 (wd1s1 bn 736467

Re: Proposed new Bourne shell init files

2000-03-30 Thread Sue Blake
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 10:45:21PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: > Commentary on my files. . . Using allexport instead of an explicit > 'export' for every variable makes the file easier to read, and gives a > novice user one less thing to worry about. I see your point, and offer an alternati

Re: DEFUNCT

2000-03-30 Thread Greg Lehey
[Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] [Forwarding to -questions; this isn't an in-depth technical discussions] On Thursday, 30 March 2000 at 10:51:23 +0200, Kasper wrote: > Why is my system often go into defunct. I cant do anything and have > to reboot it, please ca

Re: DEFUNCT

2000-03-30 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Why is my system often go into defunct. I cant do anything and have to :reboot it, please can anyone tell me what to do. I can not do a reboot. : :My server is a webserver whit perl, php. : :Below is a picture of top. : : : PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RESSTATETIME WCPU CPU COMMAND :

DEFUNCT

2000-03-30 Thread Kasper
Why is my system often go into defunct. I cant do anything and have to reboot it, please can anyone tell me what to do. I can not do a reboot. My server is a webserver whit perl, php. Below is a picture of top. PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RESSTATETIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 1 root

Re: BSD VS BDS

2000-03-30 Thread p_a_r
Ok but i downloaded the 3.3-stable is there some problems whit that and whats so good in the new 4.0?? Martin Cracauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Tuesday March 28, 2000 at 12:52pm: >In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, p_a_r wrote: >> >> Can anyone tell me the differens in FreeBSD and NetBSD. I would