Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Vincent Poy
On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > :> 2.6 MB/sec is what I would expect if you were running the test > :> over an ssh link on a fast cpu - the encryption eats a lot of cpu. But > :> a normal rcp or ftp or data transfer can easily do 9-10 MBytes/sec. > : > : That was actu

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Vincent Poy
On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > :> 2.6 MB/sec is what I would expect if you were running the test > :> over an ssh link on a fast cpu - the encryption eats a lot of cpu. But > :> a normal rcp or ftp or data transfer can easily do 9-10 MBytes/sec. > : > : That was act

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > : Hmmm, how did you do the measurement and how big of a file does it > :need? > : > : With a 122MByte file, it only does 2644Kbytes/sec. This is > :between two Pentium II 450 machines with Intel Pro100+ NICs. > : > : > :Cheers, > :Vince - vi...

Re: USFS (User Space File System)

1999-07-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, David E. Cross wrote: > I have a number of questions on more specific ideas (like caching, inode/vnode > interaction, etc). But I am just feeling arround for what people think > about this. Any ideas/comments? John Heidemann's papers on file system stacking layers refer to

Re: Devloper

1999-07-17 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > "Daniel C. Sobral" writes: > > * a sysctl to make the system non-overcommit > > So I see common sense lost in the end. I think nobody objects to the knob, just to people trying to convince us that it would do any good. > > * SIGDANGER in low-memory si

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > : Hmmm, how did you do the measurement and how big of a file does it > :need? > : > : With a 122MByte file, it only does 2644Kbytes/sec. This is > :between two Pentium II 450 machines with Intel Pro100+ NICs. > : > : > :Cheers, > :Vince - [EMA

Re: USFS (User Space File System)

1999-07-17 Thread Boris Popov
On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, David E. Cross wrote: > I am looking at a project that will require a user based process to interact > with the system as if it were a filesystem. The traditional way I have seen [...] > I have a number of questions on more specific ideas (like caching, inode/vnode > interac

Re: USFS (User Space File System)

1999-07-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, David E. Cross wrote: > I have a number of questions on more specific ideas (like caching, inode/vnode > interaction, etc). But I am just feeling arround for what people think > about this. Any ideas/comments? John Heidemann's papers on file system stacking layers refer to

Re: USFS (User Space File System)

1999-07-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
:> : :> : Brian Fundakowski Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ ___ :> : gr...@freebsd.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ :> :> Actually, it isn't quite. All the portal filesystem will allow you :> to do is pass back a descriptor. It does not allow you to simulate :> a f

Re: Devloper

1999-07-17 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > "Daniel C. Sobral" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > * a sysctl to make the system non-overcommit > > So I see common sense lost in the end. I think nobody objects to the knob, just to people trying to convince us that it would do any good. > > * SIGDAN

Re: USFS (User Space File System)

1999-07-17 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > : > :Look into the portal filesystem. This is what you want :) > : > : Brian Fundakowski Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ ___ > : gr...@freebsd.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ > > Actually, it isn't quite. All the portal filesys

Re: USFS (User Space File System)

1999-07-17 Thread Boris Popov
On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, David E. Cross wrote: > I am looking at a project that will require a user based process to interact > with the system as if it were a filesystem. The traditional way I have seen [...] > I have a number of questions on more specific ideas (like caching, inode/vnode > intera

Re: 650 MB MFS?

1999-07-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
: :I'm not sure what good that will do me. The point of the exercise is to :ensure that cdrecord never has to wait on enough seeks to create coasters. :Putting it all in ram before starting should do this, but a different :interface to the same data on disk doesn't. : :Unless I'm missing something

Re: USFS (User Space File System)

1999-07-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
:> : :> : Brian Fundakowski Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ ___ :> : [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ :> :> Actually, it isn't quite. All the portal filesystem will allow you :> to do is pass back a descriptor. It does not allow you to simulate :> a

Re: USFS (User Space File System)

1999-07-17 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > : > :Look into the portal filesystem. This is what you want :) > : > : Brian Fundakowski Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ ___ > : [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ > > Actually, it isn't quite. All the portal filesy

Re: 650 MB MFS?

1999-07-17 Thread David Miller
On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > : > :Are there any design limits to mfs? I want to use cdrecord to write to a > :dozen or so CD's at once, and fear making lots of coasters if I run them > :all off a single on-disk file. However, a CD only holds 650 MB, so it > :seems like I could ha

Re: 650 MB MFS?

1999-07-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
: :I'm not sure what good that will do me. The point of the exercise is to :ensure that cdrecord never has to wait on enough seeks to create coasters. :Putting it all in ram before starting should do this, but a different :interface to the same data on disk doesn't. : :Unless I'm missing somethin

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
:On 17-Jul-99 Matthew Dillon wrote: :> :> Obviously you don't get square waves going down the wire - But it is :> still a digital communications protocol. :> :> -Matt : :However the physical layer, i.e. the cable, is analogue and the discussion was :a

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
:> 2.6 MB/sec is what I would expect if you were running the test :> over an ssh link on a fast cpu - the encryption eats a lot of cpu. But :> a normal rcp or ftp or data transfer can easily do 9-10 MBytes/sec. : : That was actually done with ftp between two machines connected :F

Re: USFS (User Space File System)

1999-07-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
: :Look into the portal filesystem. This is what you want :) : : Brian Fundakowski Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ ___ : gr...@freebsd.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ Actually, it isn't quite. All the portal filesystem will allow you to do is pass back a descriptor. I

Re: 650 MB MFS?

1999-07-17 Thread David Miller
On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > : > :Are there any design limits to mfs? I want to use cdrecord to write to a > :dozen or so CD's at once, and fear making lots of coasters if I run them > :all off a single on-disk file. However, a CD only holds 650 MB, so it > :seems like I could h

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
:On 17-Jul-99 Matthew Dillon wrote: :> :> Obviously you don't get square waves going down the wire - But it is :> still a digital communications protocol. :> :> -Matt : :However the physical layer, i.e. the cable, is analogue and the discussion was :

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
:> 2.6 MB/sec is what I would expect if you were running the test :> over an ssh link on a fast cpu - the encryption eats a lot of cpu. But :> a normal rcp or ftp or data transfer can easily do 9-10 MBytes/sec. : : That was actually done with ftp between two machines connected :

Re: USFS (User Space File System)

1999-07-17 Thread Brian F. Feldman
Look into the portal filesystem. This is what you want :) Brian Fundakowski Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ ___ gr...@freebsd.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve!_ __ | _ \._ \ |) | http://www.FreeBSD.org/ _ |___/___/__

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Karl Pielorz
Vincent Poy wrote: > Testing after the dust has settled and while it is in use is > different since conditions do change. The testers only tests for > continuity, not the impedance or any other electrical properties of the > cable. The decent testers (such as a professional cable install

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Vincent Poy
On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Vincent Poy wrote: > > > > As I said, I used ttcp. ttcp is a "network only" test - it can source > > > > or sink traffic itself. This is nice because you avoid other sources of > > > > problems (disk bandwidth etc). I tended to run the tests for 30 seconds > > > > to one minut

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Vincent Poy
On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > : Hmmm, how did you do the measurement and how big of a file does it > :need? > : > : With a 122MByte file, it only does 2644Kbytes/sec. This is > :between two Pentium II 450 machines with Intel Pro100+ NICs. > > 2.6 MB/sec is what I would

Re: USFS (User Space File System)

1999-07-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
: :Look into the portal filesystem. This is what you want :) : : Brian Fundakowski Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ ___ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ Actually, it isn't quite. All the portal filesystem will allow you to do is pass back a descriptor.

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Vincent Poy
On Sun, 18 Jul 1999 sth...@nethelp.no wrote: > > > As I said, I used ttcp. ttcp is a "network only" test - it can source > > > or sink traffic itself. This is nice because you avoid other sources of > > > problems (disk bandwidth etc). I tended to run the tests for 30 seconds > > > to one minute.

Re: Sv: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Vincent Poy
On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, Leif Neland wrote: > > > There again, any network installer worth their salt will test the cable > when > > > in-situ, after the 'dust' has settled... > > > > Testing after the dust has settled and while it is in use is > > different since conditions do change. The testers on

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Duncan Barclay
On 17-Jul-99 Matthew Dillon wrote: > > Obviously you don't get square waves going down the wire - But it is > still a digital communications protocol. > > -Matt However the physical layer, i.e. the cable, is analogue and the discussion was about cab

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
: Hmmm, how did you do the measurement and how big of a file does it :need? : : With a 122MByte file, it only does 2644Kbytes/sec. This is :between two Pentium II 450 machines with Intel Pro100+ NICs. : : :Cheers, :Vince - vi...@mcestate.com - vi...@gaianet.net __

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread sthaug
> > As I said, I used ttcp. ttcp is a "network only" test - it can source > > or sink traffic itself. This is nice because you avoid other sources of > > problems (disk bandwidth etc). I tended to run the tests for 30 seconds > > to one minute. > > Oops, must have missed that one. How do I

Sv: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Leif Neland
- Original Message - From: Vincent Poy To: Karl Pielorz Cc: ; ; Sent: Sunday, July 18, 1999 12:22 AM Subject: Re: poor ethernet performance? > > There again, any network installer worth their salt will test the cable when > > in-situ, after the 'dust' has settled... > > Testing after

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Vincent Poy
On Sun, 18 Jul 1999 sth...@nethelp.no wrote: > > Hmmm, how did you do the measurement and how big of a file does it > > need? > > As I said, I used ttcp. ttcp is a "network only" test - it can source > or sink traffic itself. This is nice because you avoid other sources of > problems (disk ba

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread sthaug
> Hmmm, how did you do the measurement and how big of a file does it > need? As I said, I used ttcp. ttcp is a "network only" test - it can source or sink traffic itself. This is nice because you avoid other sources of problems (disk bandwidth etc). I tended to run the tests for 30 seconds t

Re: softupdates on root partition, no floppy

1999-07-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
:I have a machine with two scsi disks, one with /, one with /usr, and no :floppy. :I have turned on softupdates on /usr while usr was unmounted, but I can't :turn on softupdates on /, because it is always mounted. : :Normally the answer would be to boot on a floppy, but the machine doesn't :have a

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Vincent Poy
On Sun, 18 Jul 1999 sth...@nethelp.no wrote: > > I mean Mega as in 100. 100Mbps Ethernet should be equal to > > about 12500Kbytes/sec which is equal to 12.5Mbytes/sec. 94.93Megabits/sec > > doesn't equal to 100Megabits/sec. > > 12.5 Mbytes/sec on the wire *is* 94.93 Megabits/sec applica

Re: USFS (User Space File System)

1999-07-17 Thread Brian F. Feldman
Look into the portal filesystem. This is what you want :) Brian Fundakowski Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve!_ __ | _ \._ \ |) | http://www.FreeBSD.org/ _ |___/___/_

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread sthaug
> I mean Mega as in 100. 100Mbps Ethernet should be equal to > about 12500Kbytes/sec which is equal to 12.5Mbytes/sec. 94.93Megabits/sec > doesn't equal to 100Megabits/sec. 12.5 Mbytes/sec on the wire *is* 94.93 Megabits/sec application to application using TCP - that's what I'm trying

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Karl Pielorz
Vincent Poy wrote: > Testing after the dust has settled and while it is in use is > different since conditions do change. The testers only tests for > continuity, not the impedance or any other electrical properties of the > cable. The decent testers (such as a professional cable instal

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Vincent Poy
On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Vincent Poy wrote: > > > > As I said, I used ttcp. ttcp is a "network only" test - it can source > > > > or sink traffic itself. This is nice because you avoid other sources of > > > > problems (disk bandwidth etc). I tended to run the tests for 30 seconds > > > > to one minu

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Vincent Poy
On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > : Hmmm, how did you do the measurement and how big of a file does it > :need? > : > : With a 122MByte file, it only does 2644Kbytes/sec. This is > :between two Pentium II 450 machines with Intel Pro100+ NICs. > > 2.6 MB/sec is what I woul

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Vincent Poy
On Sun, 18 Jul 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > As I said, I used ttcp. ttcp is a "network only" test - it can source > > > or sink traffic itself. This is nice because you avoid other sources of > > > problems (disk bandwidth etc). I tended to run the tests for 30 seconds > > > to one minute.

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Vincent Poy
On Sun, 18 Jul 1999 sth...@nethelp.no wrote: > > It meets the spec when shipped but the bends, curves, temperature > > and other factors do affect the performance. I guess a good way to test > > the cable is with FreeBSD since it's the only real OS I've seen that can > > do like real world sp

Re: Sv: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Vincent Poy
On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, Leif Neland wrote: > > > There again, any network installer worth their salt will test the cable > when > > > in-situ, after the 'dust' has settled... > > > > Testing after the dust has settled and while it is in use is > > different since conditions do change. The testers o

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread sthaug
> It meets the spec when shipped but the bends, curves, temperature > and other factors do affect the performance. I guess a good way to test > the cable is with FreeBSD since it's the only real OS I've seen that can > do like real world speeds. The only thing is that has anyone really saw

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Duncan Barclay
On 17-Jul-99 Matthew Dillon wrote: > > Obviously you don't get square waves going down the wire - But it is > still a digital communications protocol. > > -Matt However the physical layer, i.e. the cable, is analogue and the discussion was about ca

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
: Hmmm, how did you do the measurement and how big of a file does it :need? : : With a 122MByte file, it only does 2644Kbytes/sec. This is :between two Pentium II 450 machines with Intel Pro100+ NICs. : : :Cheers, :Vince - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] __

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread sthaug
> > As I said, I used ttcp. ttcp is a "network only" test - it can source > > or sink traffic itself. This is nice because you avoid other sources of > > problems (disk bandwidth etc). I tended to run the tests for 30 seconds > > to one minute. > > Oops, must have missed that one. How do I

Sv: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Leif Neland
- Original Message - From: Vincent Poy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Karl Pielorz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 1999 12:22 AM Subject: Re: poor ethernet performance? > > There again, any network installer worth th

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Vincent Poy
On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Karl Pielorz wrote: > Vincent Poy wrote: > > > > Note also that FreeBSD can easily saturate 100 Mbps Ethernet. > > > > It meets the spec when shipped but the bends, curves, temperature > > and other factors do affect the performance. I guess a good way to test > > t

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Vincent Poy
On Sun, 18 Jul 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hmmm, how did you do the measurement and how big of a file does it > > need? > > As I said, I used ttcp. ttcp is a "network only" test - it can source > or sink traffic itself. This is nice because you avoid other sources of > problems (disk b

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Karl Pielorz
Vincent Poy wrote: > > Note also that FreeBSD can easily saturate 100 Mbps Ethernet. > > It meets the spec when shipped but the bends, curves, temperature > and other factors do affect the performance. I guess a good way to test > the cable is with FreeBSD since it's the only real OS I'v

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread sthaug
> Hmmm, how did you do the measurement and how big of a file does it > need? As I said, I used ttcp. ttcp is a "network only" test - it can source or sink traffic itself. This is nice because you avoid other sources of problems (disk bandwidth etc). I tended to run the tests for 30 seconds

Re: vinum is cool. anyone bitten recently?

1999-07-17 Thread Karl Pielorz
Craig Johnston wrote: > > Well, I'm looking into doing striping and mirroring on a new webserver > I am bringing up (3.2-stable) and I have to say, vinum looks very cool. > It took me like half an hour to get it going from first contact. > > Nice job Greg -- very straightforward. > > Now, the of

Re: softupdates on root partition, no floppy

1999-07-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
:I have a machine with two scsi disks, one with /, one with /usr, and no :floppy. :I have turned on softupdates on /usr while usr was unmounted, but I can't :turn on softupdates on /, because it is always mounted. : :Normally the answer would be to boot on a floppy, but the machine doesn't :have a

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-07-17 Thread Matthew Jacob
> Mike Smith wrote: > > > > The loader will, at some stage in the future, grow a persistent data > > store in which items like this can be saved. > > Doesn't /boot/[defaults/]loader.conf[.local] qualify as persistent > data storage? Not if the items stored there are needed prior to being able

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Vincent Poy
On Sun, 18 Jul 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I mean Mega as in 100. 100Mbps Ethernet should be equal to > > about 12500Kbytes/sec which is equal to 12.5Mbytes/sec. 94.93Megabits/sec > > doesn't equal to 100Megabits/sec. > > 12.5 Mbytes/sec on the wire *is* 94.93 Megabits/sec applic

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread sthaug
> I mean Mega as in 100. 100Mbps Ethernet should be equal to > about 12500Kbytes/sec which is equal to 12.5Mbytes/sec. 94.93Megabits/sec > doesn't equal to 100Megabits/sec. 12.5 Mbytes/sec on the wire *is* 94.93 Megabits/sec application to application using TCP - that's what I'm tryin

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Vincent Poy
On Sun, 18 Jul 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > It meets the spec when shipped but the bends, curves, temperature > > and other factors do affect the performance. I guess a good way to test > > the cable is with FreeBSD since it's the only real OS I've seen that can > > do like real world s

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread sthaug
> It meets the spec when shipped but the bends, curves, temperature > and other factors do affect the performance. I guess a good way to test > the cable is with FreeBSD since it's the only real OS I've seen that can > do like real world speeds. The only thing is that has anyone really saw

softupdates on root partition, no floppy

1999-07-17 Thread Leif Neland
I have a machine with two scsi disks, one with /, one with /usr, and no floppy. I have turned on softupdates on /usr while usr was unmounted, but I can't turn on softupdates on /, because it is always mounted. Normally the answer would be to boot on a floppy, but the machine doesn't have a floppyd

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Vincent Poy
On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Karl Pielorz wrote: > Vincent Poy wrote: > > > > Note also that FreeBSD can easily saturate 100 Mbps Ethernet. > > > > It meets the spec when shipped but the bends, curves, temperature > > and other factors do affect the performance. I guess a good way to test > >

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Vincent Poy
On Sat, 17 Jul 1999 sth...@nethelp.no wrote: > > I am benefiting from it for sure. I guess what I was asking > > originally was if the higher frequency rated cables will give it more > > headroom since the 100BaseTX ethernet does push CAT5 to the limit. > > 100BaseTX is specified to run on C

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Karl Pielorz
Vincent Poy wrote: > > Note also that FreeBSD can easily saturate 100 Mbps Ethernet. > > It meets the spec when shipped but the bends, curves, temperature > and other factors do affect the performance. I guess a good way to test > the cable is with FreeBSD since it's the only real OS I'

Re: vinum is cool. anyone bitten recently?

1999-07-17 Thread Karl Pielorz
Craig Johnston wrote: > > Well, I'm looking into doing striping and mirroring on a new webserver > I am bringing up (3.2-stable) and I have to say, vinum looks very cool. > It took me like half an hour to get it going from first contact. > > Nice job Greg -- very straightforward. > > Now, the o

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-07-17 Thread Matthew Jacob
> Mike Smith wrote: > > > > The loader will, at some stage in the future, grow a persistent data > > store in which items like this can be saved. > > Doesn't /boot/[defaults/]loader.conf[.local] qualify as persistent > data storage? Not if the items stored there are needed prior to being able

Re: Determining the return address

1999-07-17 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 17 Jul 1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Is there any (evidently non-portable) way of determining a function > instance's return address? I have an idea or two that involves the > return address and dladdr(). The code I currently use looks like this: > > int > log_print(log_t *log, char *fmt,

softupdates on root partition, no floppy

1999-07-17 Thread Leif Neland
I have a machine with two scsi disks, one with /, one with /usr, and no floppy. I have turned on softupdates on /usr while usr was unmounted, but I can't turn on softupdates on /, because it is always mounted. Normally the answer would be to boot on a floppy, but the machine doesn't have a floppy

Booting from vinum?

1999-07-17 Thread David Gilbert
> "Alex" == Alex Povolotsky writes: Alex> Hello! Is it possible to have a root partition on vinum'ed disk Alex> and benefit from mirroring? If yes, how do I do it? My current design for this type of situation is to have 64M boot partitions and 256M swap partitions on each disk. I then use

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Vincent Poy
On Sat, 17 Jul 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I am benefiting from it for sure. I guess what I was asking > > originally was if the higher frequency rated cables will give it more > > headroom since the 100BaseTX ethernet does push CAT5 to the limit. > > 100BaseTX is specified to run on

vinum is cool. anyone bitten recently?

1999-07-17 Thread Craig Johnston
Well, I'm looking into doing striping and mirroring on a new webserver I am bringing up (3.2-stable) and I have to say, vinum looks very cool. It took me like half an hour to get it going from first contact. Nice job Greg -- very straightforward. Now, the official status of vinum is still alpha,

Re: Determining the return address

1999-07-17 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 17 Jul 1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Is there any (evidently non-portable) way of determining a function > instance's return address? I have an idea or two that involves the > return address and dladdr(). The code I currently use looks like this: > > int > log_print(log_t *log, char *fmt

Booting from vinum?

1999-07-17 Thread David Gilbert
> "Alex" == Alex Povolotsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Alex> Hello! Is it possible to have a root partition on vinum'ed disk Alex> and benefit from mirroring? If yes, how do I do it? My current design for this type of situation is to have 64M boot partitions and 256M swap partitions on eac

telnetd

1999-07-17 Thread Warner Losh
What purpose is served by the twisty maze of ifdefs in telnetd? I'd like to unifdef many of them. I'm trying to track down a bug and the twisty maze makes it very hard to follow. Comments? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the bod

vinum is cool. anyone bitten recently?

1999-07-17 Thread Craig Johnston
Well, I'm looking into doing striping and mirroring on a new webserver I am bringing up (3.2-stable) and I have to say, vinum looks very cool. It took me like half an hour to get it going from first contact. Nice job Greg -- very straightforward. Now, the official status of vinum is still alpha,

USFS (User Space File System)

1999-07-17 Thread David E. Cross
I am looking at a project that will require a user based process to interact with the system as if it were a filesystem. The traditional way I have seen this done is as the system NFS mounting itself (ala AMD). I would really like a more clean approach to this. What I am interested in is a 'Use

Booting from vinum?

1999-07-17 Thread Alex Povolotsky
Hello! Is it possible to have a root partition on vinum'ed disk and benefit from mirroring? If yes, how do I do it? Alex. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

telnetd

1999-07-17 Thread Warner Losh
What purpose is served by the twisty maze of ifdefs in telnetd? I'd like to unifdef many of them. I'm trying to track down a bug and the twisty maze makes it very hard to follow. Comments? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body o

USFS (User Space File System)

1999-07-17 Thread David E. Cross
I am looking at a project that will require a user based process to interact with the system as if it were a filesystem. The traditional way I have seen this done is as the system NFS mounting itself (ala AMD). I would really like a more clean approach to this. What I am interested in is a 'Us

Booting from vinum?

1999-07-17 Thread Alex Povolotsky
Hello! Is it possible to have a root partition on vinum'ed disk and benefit from mirroring? If yes, how do I do it? Alex. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: Devloper

1999-07-17 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
"Daniel C. Sobral" writes: > * a sysctl to make the system non-overcommit So I see common sense lost in the end. > * SIGDANGER in low-memory situations Do we support more than 32 signals? ISTR AIX already does this. What signal numbers / names does AIX use for this? > * Divi

Re: Devloper

1999-07-17 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > Assem Salama writes: > > I am interested in helping in the development in FreeBSD. I'm not a > > hotshot programmer but I know how to program. Could someone please send > > me the available projects that I can work on and some info about them? > > http://www.freebs

Re: Devloper

1999-07-17 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Assem Salama writes: > I am interested in helping in the development in FreeBSD. I'm not a > hotshot programmer but I know how to program. Could someone please send > me the available projects that I can work on and some info about them? http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/contrib.html> DES -- Dag-

Re: Devloper

1999-07-17 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
"Daniel C. Sobral" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * a sysctl to make the system non-overcommit So I see common sense lost in the end. > * SIGDANGER in low-memory situations Do we support more than 32 signals? ISTR AIX already does this. What signal numbers / names does AIX use for t

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-07-17 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Mike Smith wrote: > > The loader will, at some stage in the future, grow a persistent data > store in which items like this can be saved. Doesn't /boot/[defaults/]loader.conf[.local] qualify as persistent data storage? -- Daniel C. Sobral(8-DCS) d...@newsguy.com d...@free

Re: Devloper

1999-07-17 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > Assem Salama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I am interested in helping in the development in FreeBSD. I'm not a > > hotshot programmer but I know how to program. Could someone please send > > me the available projects that I can work on and some info about them? >

Re: Devloper

1999-07-17 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Assem Salama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am interested in helping in the development in FreeBSD. I'm not a > hotshot programmer but I know how to program. Could someone please send > me the available projects that I can work on and some info about them? http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/contrib

Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)

1999-07-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
: :It results sometimes in out of swap, too. : :> Inetd is rate-limited by default nowadays, so this really doesn't apply. : :It really does apply. Inetd limits incoming connections per minute, not per :second. It is possible to use minute limit in a few seconds and cause a high :load. Sendmail is

Re: System unique identifier.....

1999-07-17 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Mike Smith wrote: > > The loader will, at some stage in the future, grow a persistent data > store in which items like this can be saved. Doesn't /boot/[defaults/]loader.conf[.local] qualify as persistent data storage? -- Daniel C. Sobral(8-DCS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL

Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)

1999-07-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
:> machine. In this case the overcommit that can occur is with I/O, not :> swap. As a general performance rule, you have to set MaxDaemonChildren :> and MaxArticleSize to prevent the overcommit from occuring. This is a :> function of sendmail, not a function of the kernel. : :Sig

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
: :And you seen the nice square waves of 100Mb or !Gb ether on a line then? The :techniques used for transmitting 100Mb/s down copper are certainly not digital. :Pulse shaping, line estimation, ISI removal are all analogue! : :The cable itself is less improtant than the impedance matching at conne

Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)

1999-07-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
: :It results sometimes in out of swap, too. : :> Inetd is rate-limited by default nowadays, so this really doesn't apply. : :It really does apply. Inetd limits incoming connections per minute, not per :second. It is possible to use minute limit in a few seconds and cause a high :load. Sendmail i

Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)

1999-07-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
:> machine. In this case the overcommit that can occur is with I/O, not :> swap. As a general performance rule, you have to set MaxDaemonChildren :> and MaxArticleSize to prevent the overcommit from occuring. This is a :> function of sendmail, not a function of the kernel. : :Si

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
: :And you seen the nice square waves of 100Mb or !Gb ether on a line then? The :techniques used for transmitting 100Mb/s down copper are certainly not digital. :Pulse shaping, line estimation, ISI removal are all analogue! : :The cable itself is less improtant than the impedance matching at conn

Devloper

1999-07-17 Thread Assem Salama
I am interested in helping in the development in FreeBSD. I'm not a hotshot programmer but I know how to program. Could someone please send me the available projects that I can work on and some info about them? Thanks, Assem Salama To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubs

Determining the return address

1999-07-17 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Is there any (evidently non-portable) way of determining a function instance's return address? I have an idea or two that involves the return address and dladdr(). The code I currently use looks like this: int log_print(log_t *log, char *fmt, ...) { char date[32], str[MAX_LOG_LINE]; struct

Devloper

1999-07-17 Thread Assem Salama
I am interested in helping in the development in FreeBSD. I'm not a hotshot programmer but I know how to program. Could someone please send me the available projects that I can work on and some info about them? Thanks, Assem Salama To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscri

Determining the return address

1999-07-17 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Is there any (evidently non-portable) way of determining a function instance's return address? I have an idea or two that involves the return address and dladdr(). The code I currently use looks like this: int log_print(log_t *log, char *fmt, ...) { char date[32], str[MAX_LOG_LINE]; struc

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