Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?

2014-07-19 Thread Stephen Hurd
krad wrote: > that is true and I have not problem using man pages, however thats not the > way most of the world work and search engines arent exactly new either. We > should be trying to engage more people not less, and part of that is > reaching out. One of FreeBSD's historic strengths has been

Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?

2014-07-19 Thread Andreas Nilsson
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:40 AM, Darren Pilgrim < list_free...@bluerosetech.com> wrote: > On 7/18/2014 4:06 AM, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > >> K> b) We are a major release away from OpenBSD (5.6 coming soon) - is >> K> following OpenBSD's pf the past? - should it be? >> >> Following OpenBSD on features

Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?

2014-07-19 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 03:22:18PM -0400, Allan Jude wrote: > On 2014-07-18 15:07, Adrian Chadd wrote: > > On 18 July 2014 07:34, krad wrote: > >> that is true and I have not problem using man pages, however thats not the > >> way most of the world work and search engines arent exactly new either.

Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?

2014-07-19 Thread Mark Felder
On Jul 19, 2014, at 3:35, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:40 AM, Darren Pilgrim < > list_free...@bluerosetech.com> wrote: > >> On 7/18/2014 4:06 AM, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: >> >>> K> b) We are a major release away from OpenBSD (5.6 coming soon) - is >>> K> following OpenBSD's p

[PATCHES] Extend service(8) and rc(8) was: Re: HOWTO articles for migrating from Linux to FreeBSD, especially for pkg?

2014-07-19 Thread Lars Engels
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:10:34PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote: > Hi! > > > On 18 July 2014 07:28, Lars Engels wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:21:17PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Navdeep Parhar wrote: > >> > >> > On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote

Re: [PATCHES] Extend service(8) and rc(8) was: Re: HOWTO articles for migrating from Linux to FreeBSD, especially for pkg?

2014-07-19 Thread Adrian Chadd
Hi! I like it! It's a useful command line API. Eventually people will realise there needs to be a more formal method for describing/controlling the underlying framework, but I leave that up to bapt to figure out and .. well, push people to do. :) Thanks! -a On 19 July 2014 09:08, Lars Engels

Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?

2014-07-19 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 6:50 AM, Mark Felder wrote: > > On Jul 19, 2014, at 3:35, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:40 AM, Darren Pilgrim < > > list_free...@bluerosetech.com> wrote: > > > >> On 7/18/2014 4:06 AM, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > >> > >>> K> b) We are a major release a

Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?

2014-07-19 Thread Peter Wemm
On Saturday 19 July 2014 13:06:52 Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 03:22:18PM -0400, Allan Jude wrote: > > On 2014-07-18 15:07, Adrian Chadd wrote: > > > On 18 July 2014 07:34, krad wrote: > > >> that is true and I have not problem using man pages, however thats not > > >> the >

Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?

2014-07-19 Thread Darren Pilgrim
On 7/18/2014 6:51 AM, Franco Fichtner wrote: c) We never got the new syntax from OpenBSD 4.7's pf - at the time a long discussion on the pf-mailing list flamed the new syntax saying it would cause FreeBSD administrators too much headache. Today on the list it seems everyone wants it - so would

Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?

2014-07-19 Thread Adrian Chadd
On 19 July 2014 21:36, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > On 7/18/2014 6:51 AM, Franco Fichtner wrote: >>> >>> c) We never got the new syntax from OpenBSD 4.7's pf - at the time a long >>> discussion on the pf-mailing list flamed the new syntax saying it would >>> cause FreeBSD administrators too much headac