[Long story, the summary is in last two paragraphs]
I use several APC UPS some of which are connected by the USB<->serial
dongle. Said USBs very much like to drop from the USB bus on a
smallest power glitch. Today I noted that a machine dropped UPS
serial USB device, and did not reattached it.
Hi,
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Attilio Rao wrote:
>
> You don't want to work cooperatively.
>
Why is it that mbuf's refactoring consultation is being held in
internal, private, committers-and-invite-only-restricted meeting at
BSDCan ?
Why is it that so much review and discussion on changes
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Arnaud Lacombe wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Attilio Rao wrote:
>>
>> You don't want to work cooperatively.
>>
> Why is it that mbuf's refactoring consultation is being held in
> internal, private, committers-and-invite-only-restricted meeting a
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Attilio Rao wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Arnaud Lacombe wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Attilio Rao wrote:
>>>
>>> You don't want to work cooperatively.
>>>
>> Why is it that mbuf's refactoring consultation is being held in
>
On 8/1/12, Arnaud Lacombe wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Attilio Rao wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Arnaud Lacombe
>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Attilio Rao
>>> wrote:
You don't want to work cooperatively.
>>> Why is it t
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Attilio Rao wrote:
> On 8/1/12, Arnaud Lacombe wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Attilio Rao wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Arnaud Lacombe
>>> wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Attilio Rao
wrote:
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 15:45:35 -0400
From: Arnaud Lacombe
One obvious problem in FreeBSD is that committers are prosecutor,
judge and jury altogether.
As a user, I accept this.
I think if you can make a meaningful
contribution to FreeBSD developments
in the desig
Any interested party is very welcome to approach a developer and get
added to the developer summits. Plenty of the people at the most
recent developer summit weren't @freebsd.org committers - we had
plenty of representation from companies using FreeBSD.
If you want to participate, just ask a frien
On 8/1/12, Arnaud Lacombe wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Attilio Rao wrote:
[ trimm ]
>> You are forgetting one specific detail: you can always review a work
>> *after* it entered the tree. This is something you would never do, but
>> sometimes, when poor quality code is commi
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Arnaud Lacombe wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Attilio Rao wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Arnaud Lacombe
> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Attilio Rao
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> You don't want to work cooperativ
Hi Kostik,
2012/8/1 Konstantin Belousov :
> I would blame tty subsystem rather then USB subsystem. The d_purge
> method of the ttydev_cdevsw is not implemented, but it is the only
> measure that can break the deadlocks like the one I described. The
> d_purge shall wake up threads sleeping inside
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 10:46:58PM +0200, Ed Schouten wrote:
> Hi Kostik,
>
> 2012/8/1 Konstantin Belousov :
> > I would blame tty subsystem rather then USB subsystem. The d_purge
> > method of the ttydev_cdevsw is not implemented, but it is the only
> > measure that can break the deadlocks like
In message <20120801210210.gu2...@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua>, Konstantin Belous
ov writes:
>> I guess d_purge was added quite recently, right?
>
>No, it was there at least in 2006. In fact, it seems to be added in 2004,
>see r135843.
Ahh yes, I remember that one :-)
It was added so that when PCM
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> Any interested party is very welcome to approach a developer and get
> added to the developer summits. Plenty of the people at the most
> recent developer summit weren't @freebsd.org committers - we had
> plenty of representation from comp
On Wednesday 01 August 2012 22:46:58 Ed Schouten wrote:
> Hi Kostik,
>
> 2012/8/1 Konstantin Belousov :
> > I would blame tty subsystem rather then USB subsystem. The d_purge
> > method of the ttydev_cdevsw is not implemented, but it is the only
> > measure that can break the deadlocks like the o
On 8/1/12 2:41 PM, Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
On Wednesday 01 August 2012 22:46:58 Ed Schouten wrote:
Hi Kostik,
2012/8/1 Konstantin Belousov :
I would blame tty subsystem rather then USB subsystem. The d_purge
method of the ttydev_cdevsw is not implemented, but it is the only
measure that ca
On 8/1/12 12:45 PM, Arnaud Lacombe wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Attilio Rao wrote:
As for the mbuf meeting, all I can find from it online is:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2012-June/012629.html
actually nothing has happenned on this yet that I know of, which i
On Aug 1, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Arnaud Lacombe wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>> Any interested party is very welcome to approach a developer and get
>> added to the developer summits. Plenty of the people at the most
>> recent developer summit weren't @freebsd
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Arnaud Lacombe wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>> Any interested party is very welcome to approach a developer and get
>> added to the developer summits. Plenty of the people at the most
>> recent developer summit weren't @freeb
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
>
> On Aug 1, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Arnaud Lacombe wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>>> Any interested party is very welcome to approach a developer and get
>>> added to the developer summits. Plenty of t
On Aug 1, 2012, at 9:28 PM, Arnaud Lacombe wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
>>
>> On Aug 1, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Arnaud Lacombe wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
Any interested party is very welcome to approach
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 09:36:26PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
>
> I think this proves the point everybody has been saying: you
> are being needlessly contrary and confrontational.
>
Yep. In 18+ years of being subscribed to various freebsd
lists, Arnaud has the honor of being only the 2nd person
On 8/1/2012 8:36 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
> I think this proves the point everybody has been saying: you are being
> needlessly contrary and confrontational.
Actually if you take a step back and look at what Arnaud is saying
objectively, he's right. If anyone can attend the meeting by simply
gettin
Hi;
Just thought I'd share a link for the fuse-xfs project (for MacFUSE);
http://sourceforge.net/projects/fusexfs/
It's read-only so maybe it can be considered a feature compatible
replacement of our kernel driver ;).
cheers,
Pedro.
ps. I added it to the WantedPorts wiki so it won't be forgo
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Doug Barton wrote:
> On 8/1/2012 8:36 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
>> I think this proves the point everybody has been saying: you are being
>> needlessly contrary and confrontational.
>
> Actually if you take a step back and look at what Arnaud is saying
> objectively,
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