Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 08:59:41PM +0100, Brian Somers wrote: > [-current cc'd - please don't make this a big thread !] > /etc/start_if.tun0 with an ``exec ppp ...''. This starts things up > at the correct point. > > However, maybe it's time for a knob in rc.conf ? Something like > > ppp_enab

RE: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Ladavac Marino
> -Original Message- > From: Josef Karthauser [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 11:38 AM > To: Brian Somers > Cc: Mark Thomas; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wayne Self > Subject: Re: userland ppp - startup > > Something like this should do it. It may be nice to also

Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 11:46:27AM +0200, Ladavac Marino wrote: > > > Something like this should do it. It may be nice to also allow the > > authname/authkey to be specified on the command line so that they > > can easily be set in rc.conf, by hand or by sysinstall. > > > [ML] You do not

RE: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Ladavac Marino
> -Original Message- > From: Josef Karthauser [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 11:53 AM > To: Ladavac Marino > Cc: Brian Somers; Mark Thomas; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wayne > Self > Subject: Re: userland ppp - startup > > On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 11:46:27AM +020

Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 12:20:35PM +0200, Ladavac Marino wrote: > [ML] Don't know about sppp, but the only halfway secure way to > keep this sensitive data is in a file readable by root, and having the > program which needs it setuid root. Sounds a lot like > /etc/ppp/ppp.conf, doesn't it?

RE: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Ladavac Marino
> -Original Message- > From: Josef Karthauser [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 1:22 PM > To: Ladavac Marino > Cc: Brian Somers; Mark Thomas; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wayne > Self > Subject: Re: userland ppp - startup > > On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 12:20:35PM +0200

RE: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On 07-Jul-99 Ladavac Marino wrote: >> It does :) That said doesn't sysinstall using ppp to do a net >> install? >> How does it setup username/password, etc. > [ML] It asks for it in a dialog box, IIRC (never having used it >:) sysinstall drops you into ppp and you have to use the

Re: nfs ick in -current

1999-07-07 Thread Peter Wemm
Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > I just cvsup'd today hoping that all the NFS fixes that went in > recently would have alleviated (sp?) the hangs I've been getting > while building things in ports for the last couple of months. > > It used to be that just NFS would hang, now it seems to crash the >

Re: nfs ick in -current

1999-07-07 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: > Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > > I just cvsup'd today hoping that all the NFS fixes that went in > > recently would have alleviated (sp?) the hangs I've been getting > > while building things in ports for the last couple of months. > > > > It used to be th

Re: nfs ick in -current

1999-07-07 Thread Peter Wemm
Alfred Perlstein wrote: > On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: > > > Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > > > > I just cvsup'd today hoping that all the NFS fixes that went in > > > recently would have alleviated (sp?) the hangs I've been getting > > > while building things in ports for the last coupl

Re: nfs ick in -current

1999-07-07 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: > Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: > > > > > > attempting to compile xscreensaver has triggered it twice in a row > > > > /usr/ports is mounted off "server" (a freebsd -current box) and > > > > doing the make will kill the ma

Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Alex Zepeda
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Josef Karthauser wrote: > Hmm... how to do this then? The sppp setup code in rc.* allows > username/password to be specified. Can it be done in the environment > then? (If rc.conf is visable then the sppp config gives usernames and > passwords away as it stands today.) Eve

RE: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Alex Zepeda
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Ladavac Marino wrote: > [ML] You do not really want these on the command line for > everyone to see with ps. (nor in rc.conf for everyone to see with e.g. > cat) Why is rc.conf readable by world?! - alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscr

sorry, dead drive == Re: nfs ick in -current

1999-07-07 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: > Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: > > > > > Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > > > > > > I just cvsup'd today hoping that all the NFS fixes that went in > > > > recently would have alleviated (sp?) the hangs I've been getting >

Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Keith Stevenson
On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 01:19:02PM -0700, Alex Zepeda wrote: > On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Ladavac Marino wrote: > > > [ML] You do not really want these on the command line for > > everyone to see with ps. (nor in rc.conf for everyone to see with e.g. > > cat) > > Why is rc.conf readable by world?!

Break of today current and patch

1999-07-07 Thread Frank Nobis
Hello, todays current breaks in build of libgcc ===> gnu/lib/libgcc c++ -O2 -mpentium -fpcc-struct-return -ffast-math -fno-strength-reduce -malign-jumps=4 -malign-loops=4 -malign-functions=4 -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/egcs/gcc/cp/inc -nostdinc++ -c /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../.

Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Brian Somers
> On Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 08:59:41PM +0100, Brian Somers wrote: > > [-current cc'd - please don't make this a big thread !] > > /etc/start_if.tun0 with an ``exec ppp ...''. This starts things up > > at the correct point. > > > > However, maybe it's time for a knob in rc.conf ? Something like >

Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Alex Zepeda
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Keith Stevenson wrote: > On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 01:19:02PM -0700, Alex Zepeda wrote: > > On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Ladavac Marino wrote: > > > > > [ML] You do not really want these on the command line for > > > everyone to see with ps. (nor in rc.conf for everyone to see with e

Re: Stuck in "objtrm"

1999-07-07 Thread Jerry Bell
I can very reliable reproduce a process getting stuck in this state. The box it is running on is a k6-2 400 with 128MB of ram and 500MB of swap. When compiling mysql322-server with the compiler option of '-O2' or '-O3', the build gets up to sql_yacc.cc. It churns on this file and goes into the o

Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Boris Staeblow
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 Keith Stevenson wrote: >> Why is rc.conf readable by world?! > > >Why not? What about that: spppconfig_isp0="authproto=chap myauthname=foo myauthsecret='top secret' hisauthname=some-gw hisauthsecret='another secret'" Boris -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boris Staeblow To Unsu

Re: this of interest to anyone?

1999-07-07 Thread Jerry Bell
I got this a few days ago. Apparently there was some form of problem with the vm subsystem (I'm speculating here). What I did to fix it was to re-cvsup the source tree (after killing non-essential processes) and rebuilding only the kernel. After compiling and installing the new kernel, I reboot

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread David Greenman
>Since we have increased the hard page table allocation for the kernel to >1G (?) we should be able to safely increase VM_KMEM_SIZE_MAX. I was >thinking of increasing it to 512MB. This increase only effects >large-memory systems. It keeps them from locking up :-) > >Anyone

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
: : Yes, I do - at least with the 512MB figure. That would be half of the 1GB :KVA space and large systems really need that space for things like network :buffers and other map regions. : :-DG : :David Greenman :Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org :Creato

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread David Greenman
>: Yes, I do - at least with the 512MB figure. That would be half of the 1GB >:KVA space and large systems really need that space for things like network >:buffers and other map regions. >: >:-DG >: >:David Greenman >:Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org >

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
:>limit ought to work for a 4G machine :> :>Since most of those news files were small, I think Kirk's news test code :>is pretty much the worse case scenario as far as vnode allocation goes. : : Well, I could possibly live with 256MB, but the vnode/fsnode consumption :seems to be get

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Peter Jeremy
David Greenman wrote: > Yes, I do - at least with the 512MB figure. That would be half of the 1GB >KVA space and large systems really need that space for things like network >buffers and other map regions. Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >What would be an acceptable upper limit?

Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 10:02:44PM +0100, Brian Somers wrote: > > Ha, and you thought it'd be straight forward ;^P > ;b just time mate :) I'm off on holiday on Saturday, until the next Sunday. Day off work on the Monday. If I don't get it tied up before I go I'll finish it on my return. Joe -

Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 01:00:46PM +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > On 07-Jul-99 Ladavac Marino wrote: > > sysinstall drops you into ppp and you have to use the term > command to log in manually. Ahha, it's not quite as bad as that. sysinstall asks you some questions and writes a p

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Peter Wemm
Jason Thorpe wrote: > On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 17:03:16 -0700 (PDT) > Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If this could result in a smaller overall structure, it may be worth i t. > > To really make the combined structure smaller we would also have to > > pair-down the

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Jason Thorpe
On Thu, 08 Jul 1999 08:36:19 +0800 Peter Wemm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Out of curiosity, how does it handle the problem of small 512 byte > directories? Does it consume a whole page or does it do something smarter? > Or does the ubc work apply to read/write only and the filesystem itsel

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
:The way this is done in the still-in-development branch of NetBSD's :unified buffer cache is to basically elimiate the old buffer cache :interface for vnode read/write completely. When you want to do that :sort of I/O to a vnode, you simply map a window of the object into :KVA space (via ubc_all

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
:On Thu, 08 Jul 1999 08:36:19 +0800 : Peter Wemm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : : > Out of curiosity, how does it handle the problem of small 512 byte : > directories? Does it consume a whole page or does it do something smarter? : > Or does the ubc work apply to read/write only and the filesystem

Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-07 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 8 July 1999 at 9:26:09 +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > David Greenman wrote: >> Yes, I do - at least with the 512MB figure. That would be half of the 1GB >> KVA space and large systems really need that space for things like network >> buffers and other map regions. > > Matthew Dillon

Re: Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Why not put the kernel in a different address space? IIRC there's no :absolute requirement for the kernel and userland to be in the same :address space, and that way we would have 4 GB for each. : :Greg No, the syscall overhead is way too high if we have to mess with MMU context. This

Re: Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-07 Thread Julian Elischer
we already use the gs register for SMP now.. what about the fs register? I vaguely remember that the different segments could be used to achieve this (%fs points to user space or something) julian On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > :Why not put the kernel in a different address sp

Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now works under New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-07 Thread Julian Elischer
uh... [phaser.whistle.com] 536 man 9 finetimer No entry for finetimer in section 9 of the manual On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Seigo Tanimura wrote: > Another idea has come to my mind... > > > pca(4) currently uses acquire_timer0(), which changes the timer > frequency directly, breaking finetimer(9)

Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now works under New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-07 Thread Seigo Tanimura
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 19:06:48 -0700 (PDT), Julian Elischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: julian> uh... julian> [phaser.whistle.com] 536 man 9 finetimer julian> No entry for finetimer in section 9 of the manual Sorry, finetimer(9) is the new timer implemented in my latest midi driver. You can read t

Panic in spec_strategy()

1999-07-07 Thread Scott Michel
-current kernel as of 1700 PST (or thereabouts): spec_strategy+0x31: movl0x28(%eax), eax Note: %eax = 0 Traceback: -- spec_strategy(c3d27dd0,c3d27dac,c01cbe1,c3d27dd0,c3d27ddc) at spec_strategy+0x31 spec_vnoperate(c

Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now works under New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-07 Thread Julian Elischer
On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Seigo Tanimura wrote: > On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 19:06:48 -0700 (PDT), > Julian Elischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > julian> uh... > julian> [phaser.whistle.com] 536 man 9 finetimer > julian> No entry for finetimer in section 9 of the manual > > > Sorry, finetimer(9) is the

Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now works under New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-07 Thread Seigo Tanimura
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 19:18:57 -0700 (PDT), Julian Elischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Sorry, finetimer(9) is the new timer implemented in my latest midi driver. >> You can read the short paper describing the feature and principle in: >> >> Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> julian> how do I read

Re: Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-07 Thread Patryk Zadarnowski
> Why not put the kernel in a different address space? IIRC there's no > absolute requirement for the kernel and userland to be in the same > address space, and that way we would have 4 GB for each. Wouldn't that make system calls that need to share data between kernel and user spaces hopeless

Re: Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-07 Thread Patryk Zadarnowski
> we already use the gs register for SMP now.. > what about the fs register? > I vaguely remember that the different segments could be used to achieve > this (%fs points to user space or something) ... as I've suggested a few days ago, and was told to shut up with a (rather irrelevant) refere

Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now works under New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-07 Thread Julian Elischer
On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Seigo Tanimura wrote: > > Ow, I thought it was in the mailing list archive, turned out not. > I will attach the paper below. Sorry for a long mail. > > > --- v --- cut here --- v --- > Unlike 16550, MPU401 does not generate an interrupt on TX-ready. > So we have to choose

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Jason Thorpe
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now, I also believe that when UVM maps those pages, it makes them > copy-on-write so I/O can be initiated on the data without having to > stall anyone attempting to make further modifications to

Re: Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-07 Thread Julian Elischer
On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Patryk Zadarnowski wrote: > > > Why not put the kernel in a different address space? IIRC there's no > > absolute requirement for the kernel and userland to be in the same > > address space, and that way we would have 4 GB for each. > > Wouldn't that make system calls tha

question regarding CMD640 chipsets

1999-07-07 Thread Bradley T. Hughes
this is my first bout with -current... and i have a question about the cmd640 workaround code... upon booting -current (from 7/6/99) i noticed that the kernel didn't report that the work around was enabled... so i began searching through the code looking for where the workaround actually was... i

Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Mike Smith
> > > Why is rc.conf readable by world?! > > > > Why not? > > What reason would the rest of the "world" have to read rc.conf? It could > only create a possible security risk. This is shabby reasoning. rc.conf contains public system configuration data, which may need to be consumed by non-roo

Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Alex Zepeda
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > Why is rc.conf readable by world?! > > > > > > Why not? > > > > What reason would the rest of the "world" have to read rc.conf? It could > > only create a possible security risk. > > This is shabby reasoning. rc.conf contains public system config

Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Mike Smith
> > > What reason would the rest of the "world" have to read rc.conf? It could > > > only create a possible security risk. > > > > This is shabby reasoning. rc.conf contains public system configuration > > data, which may need to be consumed by non-root processes. > > What kind of non-root pr

Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Ville-Pertti Keinonen
Alex Zepeda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Why is rc.conf readable by world?! > > > > Why not? > > What reason would the rest of the "world" have to read rc.conf? It could > only create a possible security risk. Unix systems are typically designed the other way around - don't read-protect