Re: dummynet causes crash?

1999-01-24 Thread Luigi Rizzo
which version of ip_dummynet are you using. There were lately a few changes to fix a problem related to route entries being freed in the wrong way. > .(02:36:11)(r...@bright.reserved) > ipfw add pipe 1 ip from server to cvsup.freebsd.org > (long pause i assume DNS) > 0 pipe 1 ip from 192.168.

Re: make aout-to-elf-build failure

1999-01-24 Thread Mark Murray
Randy Bush wrote: > an hour further on > > /usr/obj/aout/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec/elf/ld: warning: libcrypt.so.2, needed by /usr/obj/elf/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/kauthd/../../lib/libkrb/libkrb.so, n ot found (try using --rpath) > /usr/obj/elf/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/kauthd/../../lib/libkrb/li

Re: Death to LKM screen savers? (was: Re: HEADS UP: i386 a.out LKM support now an option..)

1999-01-24 Thread Mark Murray
Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Doh, they were already axed by sos in late December. 'cvs co src/lkm' > still creates directories for them though. I'm sure someone with more > CVS experience than me will be able to explain why :) Because you left off the "-P" "Prune empty directories" flag. M -- Mar

Running 4.0, a few weirdies

1999-01-24 Thread Christopher Masto
I just finished a make world and kernel build from sourced cvsuped at around Jan 23, 21:00 EST. There were no build problems, and I saw the crypt backout was in, so I installed it. System seems to be working so far, but with the following suprises: The old "unable to mount /, specified device do

Re: Running 4.0, a few weirdies

1999-01-24 Thread Mark Murray
Christopher Masto wrote: > After fixing that, I ran into problems with libcrypt. Specifically, > everything seems to be linked against libcrypt.so.3 This has been fixed. Please resup. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freeb

Re: Bootstrap loader problems on CURRENT

1999-01-24 Thread Pascal Hofstee
On Sun, 24 Jan 1999, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > Pascal Hofstee wrote: > This is most likely my fault. The only place where ficlExecFD gets > executed is during initialization, when loading /boot/boot.4th. What > do you have there? I suppose you have no trouble booting if you > rename that file, c

Re: Death to LKM screen savers? (was: Re: HEADS UP: i386 a.out LKM support now an option..)

1999-01-24 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Jan 23, 1999 at 09:00:58PM -0800, John Polstra wrote: > > Always use "-P" when you check out sources: "cvs co -P src/lkm". > And when you update sources already checked out, use "cvs upd -Pd". Or use a ~/.cvsrc file. Mine is: diff -u update -Pd checkout -P -- -- David(

Re: Running 4.0, a few weirdies

1999-01-24 Thread Christopher Masto
On Sun, Jan 24, 1999 at 03:46:53AM -0500, Christopher Masto wrote: > That's all that I noticed. I will try another update to get Matt's vm > fix.. if it still panics, I'll get a proper backtrace. And yes, I'm > using INVARIANTS. Well, I resupped and rebuilt, and did the thing that crashed it bef

Re: Running 4.0, a few weirdies

1999-01-24 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, 24 Jan 1999, Christopher Masto wrote: > The old "unable to mount /, specified device does not match root > device" on booting. My /etc/fstab had (working with -current from > just a few weeks ago): > > /dev/wd0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 > > I thoug

Re: make aout-to-elf-build failure

1999-01-24 Thread Randy Bush
>> /usr/obj/aout/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec/elf/ld: warning: libcrypt.so.2, needed >> by >> /usr/obj/elf/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/kauthd/../../lib/libkrb/libkrb.so, >> not found (try using --rpath) >> /usr/obj/elf/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/kauthd/../../lib/libkrb/libkrb.so: >> undefined refere

Re: make aout-to-elf-build failure

1999-01-24 Thread Mark Murray
Randy Bush wrote: > grazie! Prego! M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

spec_getpages error

1999-01-24 Thread Kris Kennaway
4.0-CURRENT as of earlier this evening (before the most recent set of commits by Matt): spec_getpages: I/O read failure: (error code=0) size: 4096, resid: 4096, a_count: 3156, valid: 0x0 nread: 0, reqpage: 0, pindex: 0, pcount: 1 vm_fault: pager read error, pid 1237 (

Re: spec_getpages error

1999-01-24 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, 24 Jan 1999, Kris Kennaway wrote: > 4.0-CURRENT as of earlier this evening (before the most recent set of commits > by Matt): > > spec_getpages: I/O read failure: (error code=0) >size: 4096, resid: 4096, a_count: 3156, valid: 0x0 >nread: 0, reqpage: 0, pind

Re: Heads up! New swapper and VM changes have been committed to -4.x

1999-01-24 Thread Boris Staeblow
>Make sure your /usr/src/lib/libkvm is updated. Also update >/usr/src/include/kvm.h. Then update and recompile top, systat, >and pstat. What about an "kvmrebuild"-target in the main Makefile? Beside your suggestions there are much more programs which use libkvm: /bin/ps/ /libex

Re: Heads up! New swapper and VM changes have been committed to -4.x

1999-01-24 Thread Karl Pielorz
Boris Staeblow wrote: > > >Make sure your /usr/src/lib/libkvm is updated. Also update > >/usr/src/include/kvm.h. Then update and recompile top, systat, > >and pstat. > > What about an "kvmrebuild"-target in the main Makefile? Would have the effect of a make build/install world ac

Re: Heads up! New swapper and VM changes have been committed to -4.x

1999-01-24 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Boris Staeblow wrote: > > Beside your suggestions there are much more programs which use > libkvm: > > /sbin/dset/ If I am not mistaken, dset got canned. -- Daniel C. Sobral(8-DCS) d...@newsguy.com If you sell your soul to the Devil and all you get is an MCSE fr

Re: dummynet causes crash?

1999-01-24 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On Sun, 24 Jan 1999, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > which version of ip_dummynet are you using. There were lately a few > changes to fix a problem related to route entries being freed in the > wrong way. * $Id: ip_dummynet.c,v 1.7 1999/01/12 16:43:52 eivind Exp $ this is what you want right? > > > .(0

Problem booting using /boot/loader

1999-01-24 Thread Harry Starr
I just cvsup'd and made world, and rebuilt a kernel. (The last rebuild was Jan 11). NOW, /boot/loader cannot mount my root partition. Luckily, boot2 can still load the new kernel properly. Here is the pertinent info: * No IDE drives, BUT 1 ATAPI CD-ROM on second IDE channel. Booting kernel

fetch(1) headers not installed

1999-01-24 Thread Kris Kennaway
'make includes' does not install fetch.h and fetch_err.h, the only two header files in /usr/include which aren't installed by that target. They are installed by 'make install' however. Is this intentional behaviour? Kris - (ASP) Microsoft Corporation (MSFT) announced today that the release o

Re: Problem booting using /boot/loader

1999-01-24 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Harry Starr wrote: > > Can anyone shed some light on this for me ?? Can you provide the bios disk assignment shown by loader? > The previous boot/loader (Jan 11) booted this configuration fine!! Upon installation, the old loader is preserver as /boot/loader.old. Can you confirm it is still work

Re: Problem booting using /boot/loader

1999-01-24 Thread Harry Starr
Yep! /boot/loader.old works OK! (dated Jan 11) /boot/loader (Jan 24) fails. And yes, the kernel was recompiled from the same cvsup sources. Definitely looks like something broke in the current loader. Harry. - Original Message - From: Daniel C. Sobral To: Harry Starr Cc: current S

Re: Problem booting using /boot/loader

1999-01-24 Thread Harry Starr
Oops! Forgot the BIOS stuff. BIOS drive A: is disk0 BIOS drive C: is disk1 BIOS drive D: is disk2 an lsdev to loader gives the expected response: disk1: BIOS drive C: disk1s1a: FFS 64MB (0 - 131072) disk1s1b: swap 128MB (131072-393216) disk1s1e: FFS 3904MB (393216 - 8388608) Harry

Re: panic: found dirty cache page 0xf046f1c0

1999-01-24 Thread Wilko Bulte
As Matthew Dillon wrote... > I've committed one bug fix to the 'found dirty cache page' bug -- > turns out vm_map_split() was the culprit, renaming pages > without removing them from PQ_CACHE. The bug was introduced > in -3.0, and hit the KASSERT() I put in -4.x. > > I've comm

Re: 2Re: panic: found dirty cache page 0xf046f1c0

1999-01-24 Thread Wilko Bulte
As Alfred Perlstein wrote... > On Sat, 23 Jan 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > > i have 'ed' driver and mine blows up as well. > > > :Here too... pretty quickly after boot on a SMP machine (current as of Jan > > :12) that pushes quite a bit of traffic, the following messages appear: > > : > > :de0:

Re: Problem booting using /boot/loader (fwd)

1999-01-24 Thread oZZ!!!
>Yep! >/boot/loader.old works OK! (dated Jan 11) >/boot/loader (Jan 24) fails. >And yes, the kernel was recompiled from the same cvsup sources. >Definitely looks like something broke in the current loader. > >Harry. >Harry Starr wrote: >> >> Can anyone shed some light on this for me ?? > >Can yo

Re: make aout-to-elf-build failure

1999-01-24 Thread Randy Bush
oops! still have /usr/obj/aout/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec/elf/ld: warning: libcrypt.so.2, needed by /usr/obj/elf/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/kipd/../../lib/libkrb/libkrb.so, not found (try using --rpath) /usr/obj/elf/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/kipd/../../lib/libkrb/libkrb.so: undefined reference t

Current's availability

1999-01-24 Thread Steven P. Donegan
Yesterday I tried to ftp a current set of floppies from current.freebsd.org - nothing there but 2.2.X stuff - 3.0 tree gone and no 4.X tree apparent. Today I get connection refused at that site. ANy pointers to a current tree would be appreciated. TIA. Steven P. Donegan em

Re: make aout-to-elf-build failure

1999-01-24 Thread Mark Murray
Randy Bush wrote: > oops! still have > > /usr/obj/aout/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec/elf/ld: warning: libcrypt.so.2, needed by /usr/obj/elf/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/kipd/../../lib/libkrb/libkrb.so, not found (try using --rpath) > /usr/obj/elf/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/kipd/../../lib/libkrb/libkrb.

Re: Death to LKM screen savers? (was: Re: HEADS UP: i386 a.out LKM support now an option..)

1999-01-24 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Mark Murray writes: > Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > Doh, they were already axed by sos in late December. 'cvs co src/lkm' > > still creates directories for them though. I'm sure someone with more > > CVS experience than me will be able to explain why :) > Because you left off the "-P" "Prune empt

Re: make aout-to-elf-build failure

1999-01-24 Thread Mark Murray
Randy Bush wrote: > oops! still have > > /usr/obj/aout/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec/elf/ld: warning: libcrypt.so.2, needed by /usr/obj/elf/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/kipd/../../lib/libkrb/libkrb.so, not found (try using --rpath) > /usr/obj/elf/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/kipd/../../lib/libkrb/libkrb.

pcm0

1999-01-24 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
I tried out pcm0 for sound on a ViBRA16x soundcard (don't laugh) and sound works. The only problem is that there is no mixer. I was wondering if this was a known problem with my card, or if nobody has done the mixer code yet... Thanks. Kenneth Culver Computer Science Major at the University of M

Re: Booting -current with new loader

1999-01-24 Thread Adrian Wontroba
On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 11:00:27PM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > Right now I'm looking at stamping the disklabel which contains the > designated root filesystem and passing the stamp into the kernel, which > will then go look for it. There are still gremlins with this approach, > but I can't think

Re: Heads up! New swapper and VM changes have been committed to -4.x

1999-01-24 Thread Adrian Wontroba
On Sat, Jan 23, 1999 at 04:45:34PM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: > Make sure your /usr/src/lib/libkvm is updated. Also update > /usr/src/include/kvm.h. Then update and recompile top, systat, > and pstat. Ahh. My cvsup / cvs / buildworld must have been at just the wrong time. This m

Re: pcm0

1999-01-24 Thread Luigi Rizzo
> I tried out pcm0 for sound on a ViBRA16x soundcard (don't laugh) and sound > works. The only problem is that there is no mixer. I was wondering if this > was a known problem with my card, or if nobody has done the mixer code i think it kind of worked a few months ago when i put in support for th

Re: Running 4.0, a few weirdies

1999-01-24 Thread Mike Smith
> On Sun, 24 Jan 1999, Christopher Masto wrote: > > > The old "unable to mount /, specified device does not match root > > device" on booting. My /etc/fstab had (working with -current from > > just a few weeks ago): > > > > /dev/wd0s1a / ufs rw 1

Transition to 4.0

1999-01-24 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai
Just a general note to Matt, Mark and a couple of other commiters: my transition from 3.0 CURRENT to 4.0 CURRENT (make world and a new kernel) as of today Sun Jan 24 18:25:32 CET 1999 work flawlessly up till now. Hope this is some good info after all the breakages =) --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der W

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Re: Problem booting using /boot/loader

1999-01-24 Thread Mike Smith
> Yep! > > /boot/loader.old works OK! (dated Jan 11) > > /boot/loader (Jan 24) fails. > > And yes, the kernel was recompiled from the same cvsup sources. > > Definitely looks like something broke in the current loader. There was a window of a few hours where the 4-current loader was broken du

Re: Booting -current with new loader

1999-01-24 Thread Mike Smith
> On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 11:00:27PM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > > Right now I'm looking at stamping the disklabel which contains the > > designated root filesystem and passing the stamp into the kernel, which > > will then go look for it. There are still gremlins with this approach, > > but I c

Re: RELENG_3 boot failed

1999-01-24 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Sun, Jan 24, 1999 at 10:35:23AM -0500, Tom Torrance at home wrote: > After a cvsup this AM, the boot process failed when attempting > to mount the root partition, with the message: > specified device does no match mounted device. > > I had to change the device specification in /etc/fstab from >

one other small prob with pcm0

1999-01-24 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
This is a trivial problem, but I just thought I'd let someone know about it. (cosmetic) Take a look at my dmesg output: Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #1:

Re: ack! LaTeX?

1999-01-24 Thread Jacques Vidrine
On 23 January 1999 at 19:44, Brett Taylor wrote: > How is teTeX not working? I'm using a month or so old version of -current > (back in the 3.0 days) on my home machine and teTeX works fine there. The latex installed by the teTex port complained about not being able to find default settings, o

Re: panic: found dirty cache page 0xf046f1c0

1999-01-24 Thread Matthew Dillon
:FYI: a buildworld of -current including the above on FreeBSD/axp completed :without any incidents. : :Wilko :... :... ( other reports ) We are looking good, I've got half a dozen positive reports! On general principles, I think it is possible to make the FreeBSD VM system bulletproo

Re: Transition to 4.0

1999-01-24 Thread Mark Murray
Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > Just a general note to Matt, Mark and a couple of other commiters: > > my transition from 3.0 CURRENT to 4.0 CURRENT (make world and a new kernel) > as of today Sun Jan 24 18:25:32 CET 1999 work flawlessly up till now. > > Hope this is some good info after all the

Re: Transition to 4.0

1999-01-24 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai: > my transition from 3.0 CURRENT to 4.0 CURRENT (make world and a new kernel) > as of today Sun Jan 24 18:25:32 CET 1999 work flawlessly up till now. Same here with an SMP kernel. FreeBSD tara 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #9: Sun Jan 24 18:54:47 CET 1999 ro

gnurr in build-aout-to-elf

1999-01-24 Thread Randy Bush
this looks non-fatal, but unsightly (cd /usr/src/share/doc/smm/title; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -ms -o1- /usr/src/share/doc/smm/title/Title) | gzip -cn > Title.ascii.gz /usr/src/share/doc/smm/title/Title:48: warning: `pt' not defined /usr/src/share/doc/smm/title/Title:173: warning: `Ed' not defin

Re: Heads up! New swapper and VM changes have been committed to -4.x

1999-01-24 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Boris Staeblow writes: > Beside your suggestions there are much more programs which use > libkvm: > > /bin/ps/ > /libexec/rpc.rstatd/ > /sbin/ccdconfig/ > /sbin/dmesg/ These are statically linked, and must be relinked after libkvm has been rebuilt. > /sbin/dset/ This does not exist anymore. >

Re: Death to LKM screen savers? (was: Re: HEADS UP: i386 a.out LKM support now an option..)

1999-01-24 Thread Joao Carlos Mendes Luis
#define quoting(Alfred Perlstein) // cvs up (not cvsup) takes me a LONG time to execute, i've been using '-z3' // for comppression because i'm on dialup, is this ok with you guys? (it // doesn't help much though...) // // cvs -z3 up -Pd src // // i'm also using ssh for transport as rlogin doesn'

4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-24 Thread Luke
I built 4.0 and after getting over the libcrypt thing it worked ok. But now every copy of netscape I have [5, all freebsd] freezes the system, waiting, switching to ttyv* dont help. and it doesnt dump core or syslog anything. Im not exactly sure what info would be helpful. Anyways other than netsc

Re: Problems with 4.0-current

1999-01-24 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Sun, Jan 24, 1999 at 01:47:25PM -0600, Stingray wrote: > I just CVSup'd 4.0-current and installed it, then made an elf kernel. > The elf kernel seemed to boot up just fine, but when the file systems > where being mounted, it couldn't mount /: > > Specified device does not match mounted de

kvm question

1999-01-24 Thread Garrett Wollman
< said: > I ran into an interesting problem in the process of modifying > "netstat" to understand the PF_NETGRAPH protocol family. "netstat" > uses kvm_read(), etc. to read kernel symbols. However, this doesn't Don't do that. Use sysctl, that's what it's there for. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wo

Re: one other small prob with pcm0

1999-01-24 Thread Luigi Rizzo
> This is a trivial problem, but I just thought I'd let someone know about > it. (cosmetic) Take a look at my dmesg output: ... > Probing for PnP devices: ... > pcm1 (SB16pnp sn 0x) at 0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 1 flags > 0x13 on isa > Probing for devices on the ISA bus: ... > pcm0 not found i

Re: kvm question

1999-01-24 Thread Julian Elischer
As soon as someone modifies sysctl to work with KLD modules that would be a reasonable suggestion On Sun, 24 Jan 1999, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < > said: > > > I ran into an interesting problem in the process of modifying > > "netstat" to understand the PF_NETGRAPH protocol family. "netsta

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-24 Thread Baby Jane Hudson
I've given up on Netscape. On some FreeBSD-based machines I have, it just core dumps... on others it works. Nobody seems to know (or care) why, so I would suggest following the development of Gzilla and Amaya. Of course, it would be immensely helpful if we knew what mysterious person within nets

Re: kvm question

1999-01-24 Thread Garrett Wollman
< said: > Peter pointed out that having the sysctl's as symbols was a nice > advantage of the current system. How important is this? I don't think it's important at all. (Then again, I liked the old system.) > If we were willing to give this up, then the SYSCTL() macro could > just expand to a

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-24 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
> I've given up on Netscape. On some FreeBSD-based machines > I have, it just core dumps... on others it works. Nobody > seems to know (or care) why, so I would suggest following > the development of Gzilla and Amaya. > > Of course, it would be immensely helpful if we knew what > mysterious pers

Re: kvm question

1999-01-24 Thread Mike Smith
> < > said: > > > Peter pointed out that having the sysctl's as symbols was a nice > > advantage of the current system. How important is this? > > I don't think it's important at all. (Then again, I liked the old > system.) > > > If we were willing to give this up, then the SYSCTL() macro coul

Re: kvm question

1999-01-24 Thread Archie Cobbs
Julian Elischer writes: > As soon as someone modifies sysctl to work with KLD modules > that would be a reasonable suggestion > > On Sun, 24 Jan 1999, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > > I ran into an interesting problem in the process of modifying > > > "netstat" to understand the PF_NETGRAPH proto

Re: kvm question

1999-01-24 Thread Peter Wemm
Archie Cobbs wrote: > Julian Elischer writes: > > As soon as someone modifies sysctl to work with KLD modules > > that would be a reasonable suggestion > > > > On Sun, 24 Jan 1999, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > > > I ran into an interesting problem in the process of modifying > > > > "netstat" t

sysctl oids (was: Re: kvm question)

1999-01-24 Thread Garrett Wollman
< said: > Backwards compatibility is one thing, but new nodes should be named, > not numbered. OID_AUTO is bogus because it perpetuates the numbering > of nodes. Nonsense. There are plenty of contexts in which a number makes far more sense than a name -- pretty much anything in any network st

Re: make aout-to-elf-build failure

1999-01-24 Thread Randy Bush
>> /usr/obj/aout/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec/elf/ld: warning: libcrypt.so.2, needed >> by /usr/obj/elf/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/kipd/../../lib/libkrb/libkrb.so, >> not found (try using --rpath) >> /usr/obj/elf/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/kipd/../../lib/libkrb/libkrb.so: >> undefined reference to `c

Re: sysctl oids (was: Re: kvm question)

1999-01-24 Thread Julian Elischer
yeah and we should get those nice valves that used to make radios so useful as space-heaters. On Sun, 24 Jan 1999, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > > > Backwards compatibility is one thing, but new nodes should be named, > > not numbered. OID_AUTO is bogus because it perpetuates the numberi

Re: one other small prob with pcm0

1999-01-24 Thread Jos� M� Alcaide
Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > > This is a trivial problem, but I just thought I'd let someone know about > > it. (cosmetic) Take a look at my dmesg output: > ... > > Probing for PnP devices: > ... > > pcm1 (SB16pnp sn 0x) at 0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 1 flags > > 0x13 on isa > > Probing for devices o

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-24 Thread Luke
On 24-Jan-99 Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: >> I've given up on Netscape. On some FreeBSD-based machines >> I have, it just core dumps... on others it works. Nobody >> seems to know (or care) why, so I would suggest following >> the development of Gzilla and Amaya. >> >> Of course, it would be imm

Re: Current's availability

1999-01-24 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
It's all a bit ill right now during the transition to 3.0S/4.0C from 2.2S/3.0C - I hope to have the build boxen back on the feet this week sometime. - Jordan > Yesterday I tried to ftp a current set of floppies from > current.freebsd.org - nothing there but 2.2.X stuff - 3.0 tree gone and > no

Re: sysctl oids (was: Re: kvm question)

1999-01-24 Thread Mikhail Teterin
Julian Elischer once stated: => Nonsense. There are plenty of contexts in which a number makes far => more sense than a name -- pretty much anything in any network stack => other than Chaosnet, for example. If any of us ever make good on the => threat of SNMP integration, having fixed numerical id

Re: sysctl oids (was: Re: kvm question)

1999-01-24 Thread Matthew Dillon
This is a silly argument. Unless the operation in question needs to be run a thousand times a second, a string is just fine as a lookup mechanism. Duh. Besides, you can always cache the translation. -Matt

Can't mount root. Really need help...

1999-01-24 Thread Chris Knight
Greetings, I have learned a very valuable lesson. No matter how many time I have made world, I shouldn't do it while I'm tired. Last night I synced my tree and made world. I rebooted, and was going to remake my kernel after the boot. That became an impossibility. After the the message "Wait

Re: Mail archive question

1999-01-24 Thread Wolfram Schneider
On 1999-01-21 12:10:38 -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > Given a message id and a mailing list, is there some way construct a > URL that will fetch that mail message. This will make doing the > UPDATING file a little easier when long messages are sent to > -current. I can say blah blah blah changed, se

Re: Problem booting using /boot/loader

1999-01-24 Thread Harry Starr
Just to let you know that re-cvsup'ing and building /boot has FIXED the problem. Thanks, Mike. Harry. - Original Message - From: Mike Smith To: Harry Starr Cc: Daniel C. Sobral ; current Sent: Monday, January 25, 1999 3:23 AM Subject: Re: Problem booting using /boot/loader >> Yep! >

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-24 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
I really don't understand the problems that everyone is having, myself. I've been running netscape (communicator 4.5) in -current for ages now and just switched to 4.0 without any problems. My netscape still continues to function just fine and has never crashed any of my system so much as once.

Re: sysctl oids (was: Re: kvm question)

1999-01-24 Thread Mikhail Teterin
Matthew Dillon once stated: =This is a silly argument. Unless the operation in question =needs to be run a thousand times a second, a string is just =fine as a lookup mechanism. Duh. Besides, you can always =cache the translation. I'll agree, that todays hardware turns this in

Re: keymaps

1999-01-24 Thread Gregory Bond
> What's wrong with us.unix.kbd? This also swaps a bunch of other things - Grave<->Esc, BS<->Del, etc. It was more confusing, so I made a new keymap. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-24 Thread sthaug
> I really don't understand the problems that everyone is having, > myself. I've been running netscape (communicator 4.5) in -current for > ages now and just switched to 4.0 without any problems. My netscape > still continues to function just fine and has never crashed any of > my system so much

Re: sysctl oids (was: Re: kvm question)

1999-01-24 Thread Julian Elischer
On Sun, 24 Jan 1999, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > Pardon my intrusion, but I strongly dislike the very thought about > my computer looking-up the same string more then once or twice. If it > counts -- I'd take a number over a string anytime anywhere other > then in a documentation. how often do

Re: sysctl oids (was: Re: kvm question)

1999-01-24 Thread Mikhail Teterin
Julian Elischer once stated: => Pardon my intrusion, but I strongly dislike the very thought about => my computer looking-up the same string more then once or twice. If it => counts -- I'd take a number over a string anytime anywhere other => then in a documentation. =how often do you use this?

Can't mount root. Really need help...

1999-01-24 Thread Chris Knight
Greetings, I have learned a very valuable lesson. No matter how many time I have made world, I shouldn't do it while I'm tired. Last night I synced my tree and made world. I rebooted, and was going to remake my kernel after the boot. That became an impossibility. After the the message "Wait

Re: sysctl oids (was: Re: kvm question)

1999-01-24 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Seldom. But the strings are still in the kernel, which becomes :bigger with every build. My argument was more general, however, :and directed against the growing tendency to use string literal :(and copy them beck and forth). IMHO, the point of faster hardware :is purely to have thing running fast

Re: Can't mount root. Really need help...

1999-01-24 Thread Matthew Dillon
From the boot prompt you should be able to specify the correct root device. Try: boot: /kernel -a The problem is probably the breakage other people have described, with sd0sNa turning into sd0a or da0a or something like that. -Matt

Re: Current's availability

1999-01-24 Thread John Robert LoVerso
Will you be keeping the last snapshot of 2.2.X around when it returns? On another note, does curr...@freebsd.org now correspond to 4.X ("-current") discussions, while sta...@freebsd.org now correspond to 3.X ("-stable")? If so, is there / will there be a separate forum for 2.X ("-stable in a past

Re: Current's availability

1999-01-24 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
Yes. > Will you be keeping the last snapshot of 2.2.X around when it returns? > > > On another note, does curr...@freebsd.org now correspond to 4.X ("-current") > discussions, while sta...@freebsd.org now correspond to 3.X ("-stable")? > If so, is there / will there be a separate forum for 2.X (

Re: Current's availability

1999-01-24 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> On another note, does curr...@freebsd.org now correspond to 4.X ("-current") > discussions, while sta...@freebsd.org now correspond to 3.X ("-stable")? Basically, yes. > If so, is there / will there be a separate forum for 2.X ("-stable in a > past life")? I think we could probably discuss tho

Re: Booting -current with new loader

1999-01-24 Thread Adrian Wontroba
On Sun, Jan 24, 1999 at 09:29:59AM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > num_ide_disks is now deprecated, you can throw it > away. If you resup, you won't need root_disk_unit either - that just > avoids the code I broke. Confirmed. My system now boots quite happily without num_ide_disks o

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-24 Thread Archie Cobbs
Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > I really don't understand the problems that everyone is having, > myself. I've been running netscape (communicator 4.5) in -current for > ages now and just switched to 4.0 without any problems. My netscape > still continues to function just fine and has never crashed a

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-24 Thread Amancio Hasty
http://www.developer.com/experts/expertspanel.html click on Bar's Guide to the the Interactive Fiction and after the page finishes loading click "Back" on Netscape's tool bar. Instant core -dump. Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mai

Re: sysctl oids (was: Re: kvm question)

1999-01-24 Thread Mike Smith
> < said: > > > Backwards compatibility is one thing, but new nodes should be named, > > not numbered. OID_AUTO is bogus because it perpetuates the numbering > > of nodes. > > Nonsense. There are plenty of contexts in which a number makes far > more sense than a name -- pretty much anything i

Re: sysctl oids (was: Re: kvm question)

1999-01-24 Thread Mike Smith
> > Pardon my intrusion, but I strongly dislike the very thought about > my computer looking-up the same string more then once or twice. If it > counts -- I'd take a number over a string anytime anywhere other > then in a documentation. Since sysctl isn't a performance interface, this isn't reall

bug with TCP over lossy lines?

1999-01-24 Thread John-Mark Gurney
well, I've seen a bug where the machine will actually recieve a packet from the remote machine that ack's data, but for some reason it will not get to the stack, and the local machine will continue to send old data... the local machine is metriclient-1.uoregon.edu, the remote machine is jupiter.uo

Re: kvm question

1999-01-24 Thread Doug Rabson
On Sun, 24 Jan 1999, Archie Cobbs wrote: > Julian Elischer writes: > > As soon as someone modifies sysctl to work with KLD modules > > that would be a reasonable suggestion > > > > On Sun, 24 Jan 1999, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > > > I ran into an interesting problem in the process of modifyi

reading BIOS environmental vars

1999-01-24 Thread Mike Tancsa
Is there any way to read some of the newer BIOS features such as CPU temp., fan status etc ? Is this even a standardize BIOS feature set ? ---Mike ** Mike Tancsa, Network Admin* m...@sentex.net Sentex Communica

Re: sysctl oids (was: Re: kvm question)

1999-01-24 Thread Matthew Dillon
:> > not numbered. OID_AUTO is bogus because it perpetuates the numbering :> > of nodes. :> :> Nonsense. There are plenty of contexts in which a number makes far :> more sense than a name -- pretty much anything in any network stack :> other than Chaosnet, for example. If any of us ever make g

3.0-CURRENT -> RELENG_3: trouble ?

1999-01-24 Thread Marco van Hylckama Vlieg
Hello all, I'm running 3.0-CURRENT at the moment, last timme I built world is about 2 or 3 weeks ago I guess. What I want to do is go to 3.0-RELEASE and from then start keeping track of the 3.x-STABLE branch. Since I've read a lot about various problems people had with this I now wonder: is it sa

Re: Death to LKM screen savers? (was: Re: HEADS UP: i386 a.out L

1999-01-24 Thread John Polstra
On 24-Jan-99 Alfred Perlstein wrote: > On Sat, 23 Jan 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > >> Finally, why not just use a local repository you weenie? 8) > > Because, certain other weenies :) have web pages up on > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook that don't explain how to do this, and > aren't very clear

Re: Death to LKM screen savers? (was: Re: HEADS UP: i386 a.out L

1999-01-24 Thread Mike Smith
> > On 24-Jan-99 Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > On Sat, 23 Jan 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > > >> Finally, why not just use a local repository you weenie? 8) > > > > Because, certain other weenies :) have web pages up on > > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook that don't explain how to do this, and > >

Re: sysctl oids (was: Re: kvm question)

1999-01-24 Thread Archie Cobbs
Julian Elischer writes: > That is at least my opinion.. you may and do disagree. I guess you will > say that numbers are just as dynamic, etc.etc. well I just think that in > the REAL WORLD, as opposed to the theoretical world, names (which require > no co-ordination between authors), are a better

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-24 Thread Nate Williams
> > I really don't understand the problems that everyone is having, > > myself. I've been running netscape (communicator 4.5) in -current for > > ages now and just switched to 4.0 without any problems. My netscape > > still continues to function just fine and has never crashed any of > > my syste

Re: 3.0-CURRENT -> RELENG_3: trouble ?

1999-01-24 Thread W Gerald Hicks
From: Marco van Hylckama Vlieg Subject: 3.0-CURRENT -> RELENG_3: trouble ? Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 03:39:57 +0100 (MET) > Hello all, > > I'm running 3.0-CURRENT at the moment, last timme I built world is > about 2 or 3 weeks ago I guess. What I want to do is go to 3.0-RELEASE > and from then star

Date going ahead by one year.

1999-01-24 Thread Kevin G. Eliuk
Hello, This may be just a chance occurance although I recall some posting in the last day regarding the date being changed when rebooting, so I thought I would post. Rebooted my machine after letting others near the box and upon starting pine it was asking whether I wanted to save my sent mail.

Re: kvm question

1999-01-24 Thread Bruce Evans
>Backwards compatibility is one thing, but new nodes should be named, >not numbered. OID_AUTO is bogus because it perpetuates the numbering >of nodes. OID_AUTO is not bogus. It is just an implementation detail. The sysctl data structures have to have a place to put a number for old-style numbe

Re: Death to LKM screen savers? (was: Re: HEADS UP: i386 a.out L

1999-01-24 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On Sun, 24 Jan 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > >> Finally, why not just use a local repository you weenie? 8) > > > > > > Because, certain other weenies :) have web pages up on > > > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook that don't explain how to do this, and > > > aren't very clear on the topics that ARE

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