Re: recent apm changes (FYI)

1999-09-03 Thread Oscar Bonilla
On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 09:33:29AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Oscar Bonilla writes: > : Aug. 27th. Want me to make world again? I also have a 3C589D and it happens > : with it too. > > No. Aug 27 is new enough to be good. I'm swamped right now with a > dozen oth

Re: recent apm changes (FYI)

1999-09-03 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Oscar Bonilla writes: : Aug. 27th. Want me to make world again? I also have a 3C589D and it happens : with it too. No. Aug 27 is new enough to be good. I'm swamped right now with a dozen other things at the moment, but if you could write me in about a week I'd be

Re: recent apm changes (FYI)

1999-09-03 Thread Oscar Bonilla
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 10:21:14PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Oscar Bonilla writes: > : Sep 2 08:43:28 voyager pccardd[24601]: No free configuration for card 3Com > : > : Then I kill pccardd and restart it and I get: > : > : ep0: No connectors or MII. > : ep0: [*

Re: recent apm changes (FYI)

1999-09-02 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Oscar Bonilla writes: : Sep 2 08:43:28 voyager pccardd[24601]: No free configuration for card 3Com : : Then I kill pccardd and restart it and I get: : : ep0: No connectors or MII. : ep0: [*UTP*] address 00:60:08:b6:36:fb : Sep 2 08:47:51 voyager pccardd[31164]: p

recent apm changes (FYI)

1999-09-02 Thread Oscar Bonilla
I have a Vaio PCG-505FX, and first of all let me tell you guys that the recent apm changes are working great. I can use both the suspend and hibernate functions without a problem. There's just one weird thing going on that I'd like you to know about, if someone gives me instructions

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-21 Thread Mitsuru IWASAKI
Sorry to late... plm> Now suspend works. However still the disks keep spinning until they plm> reach their BIOS timeout. In Linux & Windows, there is some hook when plm> going to suspend mode that spins down the (IDE) disks. This is nice, plm> since it is well possible that you go to suspend but

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-21 Thread Mitsuru IWASAKI
plm> If I use 'zzz', I have to do the known 'sleep 1; zzz' trick. This is plm> the difference. I'll commit the patch for `key release event prevent suspend' problem if no objections. Thanks a lot! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-16 Thread Peter Mutsaers
OK, here I am once more, after yet another reboot :) Now I'm running an unpatched -current from last week. It behaves almost the same, except for the delay in 'zzz'. That is, the system will go in suspend mode (albeit without spinning down the disks immediately) after a BIOS timeout or power-but

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-16 Thread Peter Mutsaers
Followup: I decided to upgrade my P2B BIOS version. I had 1005, went to 1010. This made a difference! Now suspend works. However still the disks keep spinning until they reach their BIOS timeout. In Linux & Windows, there is some hook when going to suspend mode that spins down the (IDE) disks. Th

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-16 Thread Peter Mutsaers
>> "MI" == Mitsuru IWASAKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MI> Hi, MI> I got ASUS P2B M/B & ATX case and assembled new box yesterday. With MI> my patch, new box successfully transit into suspend state. There is MI> no sounds from CPU fun, chassis fun and IDE HDD spin (powered down b

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-16 Thread Mitsuru IWASAKI
Hi, I got ASUS P2B M/B & ATX case and assembled new box yesterday. With my patch, new box successfully transit into suspend state. There is no sounds from CPU fun, chassis fun and IDE HDD spin (powered down by BIOS setting, Power management setup -> PM Timers -> HDD Power Down: 1 Min.). The

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-15 Thread Peter Mutsaers
>> "MS" == Mike Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> "MS" == Mike Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> >> Then after 5 seconds the screen blanks, the power light starts >> >> flashing (indicating suspend mode), but when I hit a key, the >> >> console says (slept 00:00:0

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-14 Thread Mike Smith
> >> "MS" == Mike Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> Then after 5 seconds the screen blanks, the power light starts > >> flashing (indicating suspend mode), but when I hit a key, the > >> console says (slept 00:00:02) only, and programs in fact > >> continued running (thus i

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-14 Thread Peter Mutsaers
>> "MS" == Mike Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Then after 5 seconds the screen blanks, the power light starts >> flashing (indicating suspend mode), but when I hit a key, the >> console says (slept 00:00:02) only, and programs in fact >> continued running (thus it didn't go

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-13 Thread Mike Smith
> Then after 5 seconds the screen blanks, the power light starts > flashing (indicating suspend mode), but when I hit a key, the console > says (slept 00:00:02) only, and programs in fact continued running > (thus it didn't go or remain in suspend mode at all). I think you'll find that programs d

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-12 Thread Mitsuru IWASAKI
Hi, > MI> Please try this patch. > MI> If it still fails, it's worth to try increasing APM_SUSPEND_DELAY, > MI> something like: > MI> #define APM_SUSPEND_DELAY 3 > > Alas, it doesn't make a difference. H. OK, I'll buy new mather board same one as yours and investigate what'

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-12 Thread Peter Mutsaers
>> "MI" == Mitsuru IWASAKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MI> Please try this patch. MI> If it still fails, it's worth to try increasing APM_SUSPEND_DELAY, MI> something like: MI> #define APM_SUSPEND_DELAY 3 Alas, it doesn't make a difference. I tried too with APM_SUSPEND_DELAY 5.

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-11 Thread Mitsuru IWASAKI
Hi, Nate. I'm sorry if my poor english troubled you. > We should have no problems responding in this amount of time in FreeBSD, > since we don't (didn't used to?) have any code that should cause > significant delay in responding. My understanding on system suspend code in FreeBSD is that once A

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-11 Thread Nate Williams
> APM Spec. v1.2 Appendix D - APM Driver Considerations - FWIW, the wording here is almost the same as the previous specifications. > When an APM connection exists, the APM BIOS transitions into System > Standby and System Suspend states only when directed to do so by a > call from the APM D

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-11 Thread Mitsuru IWASAKI
Hi, > > Oh, do you have suspend button on your box? Cool. > > On my poor experience, suspeding by hot-keys easier to > > success than by zzz(8). > > On this point I can report the oppposite experience, on my > machine (a no name special) the trackpad tends to lock up if touched > betwee

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-10 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mitsuru IWASAKI writes: : + error = DEVICE_SUSPEND(root_bus); : + /* : + * XXX Shouldn't ignore the error like this, but should : + * instead fix the newbus code. Until that happens, : + * I'm doing this

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-10 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On 10-Aug-99 Mitsuru IWASAKI wrote: > Oh, do you have suspend button on your box? Cool. > On my poor experience, suspeding by hot-keys easier to > success than by zzz(8). On this point I can report the oppposite experience, on my machine (a no name special) the trackpad tends to lock up

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-10 Thread Mitsuru IWASAKI
> Another possibility is *delay mechanism* on suspend (and standby). > AFAIK, Linux, NetBSD and PAO has this but CURRENT. I'll make patch > tonight based on PAO APM code. Please try this patch. If it still fails, it's worth to try increasing APM_SUSPEND_DELAY, something like: #define APM_SUSPE

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-09 Thread Mitsuru IWASAKI
Hi, > MI> I've read Linux code (v2.2.9) closely, noticed they put cli > MI> before APM BIOS call and save & restore segment registers. I > MI> suspect these two (or only cli?) affect the suspending state. > MI> To clarify, could you try attached patches (for > MI> sys/i386/i3

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-09 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Peter Mutsaers writes: : it, but I got suspicious because I'm running setiathome which accesses : the harddrive occasionally, and even during suspend mode I heard the : typical HDD sound sometimes. When I had my Libreto 50CT, I found that apm -Z (put into standby) w

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-09 Thread Peter Mutsaers
>> "MI" == Mitsuru IWASAKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: plm> In contract, if I suspend in Linux of Windows, the computer shuts up plm> immediateley and is quiet. Only sometimes there is a (not too loud) plm> little fan (I think it is the CPU fan) running for a few more minutes. MI

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-09 Thread Nate Williams
> > As far as the segment registers, we do an explicit save of them already > > when we switch into VM86 mode, so it should be necessary to save them > > twice. > > VM86 mode is only used to enable APM; after that we are using the > 32-bit protected mode interface. Ahh... In the old code, we u

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-09 Thread Mike Smith
> As far as the segment registers, we do an explicit save of them already > when we switch into VM86 mode, so it should be necessary to save them > twice. VM86 mode is only used to enable APM; after that we are using the 32-bit protected mode interface. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-09 Thread Nate Williams
> plm> In contract, if I suspend in Linux of Windows, the computer shuts up > plm> immediateley and is quiet. Only sometimes there is a (not too loud) > plm> little fan (I think it is the CPU fan) running for a few more minutes. > > I've read Linux code (v2.2.9) closely, noticed they put cli > b

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-09 Thread Mitsuru IWASAKI
plm> In contract, if I suspend in Linux of Windows, the computer shuts up plm> immediateley and is quiet. Only sometimes there is a (not too loud) plm> little fan (I think it is the CPU fan) running for a few more minutes. I've read Linux code (v2.2.9) closely, noticed they put cli before APM BI

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-08 Thread Peter Mutsaers
>> "MI" == Mitsuru IWASAKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> PAO has a small sleep in the apm driver, while -current didn't the >> last time I looked. MI> OK, I'll work on this. MI> To Peter Mutsaers: MI> Could you try following command to suspend and see any improvements?

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-08 Thread Mitsuru IWASAKI
Hi, > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Eric Hodel writes: > : I've got a -current machine (no cvsups in a few months) that wakes up > : immediately after suspending. (sleeps 0 seconds) > > Hmmm, some laptops will wakeup on a keyboard interrupt. The interrupt > that is waking you up may be the k

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-06 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Eric Hodel writes: : I've got a -current machine (no cvsups in a few months) that wakes up : immediately after suspending. (sleeps 0 seconds) Hmmm, some laptops will wakeup on a keyboard interrupt. The interrupt that is waking you up may be the key up from the re

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-05 Thread Eric Hodel
Peter Mutsaers wrote: > > Hello, > > After Linux I gave FreeBSD a try again, when I saw some improvements > to APM had been committed. > > I hoped for a real suspend mode, but alas. Now I'm wondering what > makes the difference, and whether I could do it myself. > > Let me explain: I run my (d

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-05 Thread Jonathan Lemon
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: >In FreeBSD, when I activate suspend mode, I see the light on my >computer blinking, indicating it has gone into suspend mode, but still >there is no reduction in noise whatsoever. The disks keep spinning, >the CPU fan (or whatever) too. I could activate th

recent apm changes

1999-08-05 Thread Peter Mutsaers
Hello, After Linux I gave FreeBSD a try again, when I saw some improvements to APM had been committed. I hoped for a real suspend mode, but alas. Now I'm wondering what makes the difference, and whether I could do it myself. Let me explain: I run my (desktop) computer in the living room. I don'