Re: polling's future [was: Re: Dynamic Ticks/HZ]

2012-11-11 Thread Bernd Walter
On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 10:46:28AM +, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > In message <5098e8b4.5040...@freebsd.org>, Andre Oppermann writes: > > >> I think it should go away, and if there still is a relevant > >> usage segment, be replaced by _real_ "device-polling" which is > >> not tied to

Re: polling's future [was: Re: Dynamic Ticks/HZ]

2012-11-06 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Nov 6, 2012, at 4:31 AM, Chuck Burns wrote: > On Tuesday, November 06, 2012 12:36:46 PM Andre Oppermann wrote: >> On 06.11.2012 12:30, Luigi Rizzo wrote: >>> On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 11:23:34AM +0100, Andre Oppermann > wrote: >>> ... >>> Hi Luigi, do you agree on polling having

Re: polling's future [was: Re: Dynamic Ticks/HZ]

2012-11-06 Thread Fabien Thomas
Le 6 nov. 2012 à 12:42, Andre Oppermann a écrit : > On 06.11.2012 12:02, Fabien Thomas wrote: >>> >>> Hi Luigi, >>> >>> do you agree on polling having outlived its usefulness in the light >>> of interrupt moderating NIC's and SMP complications/disadvantages? >>> >> If you have only one i

Re: polling's future [was: Re: Dynamic Ticks/HZ]

2012-11-06 Thread Chuck Burns
On Tuesday, November 06, 2012 12:36:46 PM Andre Oppermann wrote: > On 06.11.2012 12:30, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 11:23:34AM +0100, Andre Oppermann wrote: > > ... > > > >> Hi Luigi, > >> > >> do you agree on polling having outlived its usefulness in the light > >> of interru

Re: polling's future [was: Re: Dynamic Ticks/HZ]

2012-11-06 Thread Andre Oppermann
On 06.11.2012 12:02, Fabien Thomas wrote: Hi Luigi, do you agree on polling having outlived its usefulness in the light of interrupt moderating NIC's and SMP complications/disadvantages? If you have only one interface yes polling is not really necessary. If you have 10 interfaces the inter

Re: polling's future [was: Re: Dynamic Ticks/HZ]

2012-11-06 Thread Andre Oppermann
On 06.11.2012 12:30, Luigi Rizzo wrote: On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 11:23:34AM +0100, Andre Oppermann wrote: ... Hi Luigi, do you agree on polling having outlived its usefulness in the light of interrupt moderating NIC's and SMP complications/disadvantages? yes, we should let it rest in peace.

Re: polling's future [was: Re: Dynamic Ticks/HZ]

2012-11-06 Thread Luigi Rizzo
On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 11:23:34AM +0100, Andre Oppermann wrote: ... > Hi Luigi, > > do you agree on polling having outlived its usefulness in the light > of interrupt moderating NIC's and SMP complications/disadvantages? yes, we should let it rest in peace. One part of the NIC-polling framework

Re: polling's future [was: Re: Dynamic Ticks/HZ]

2012-11-06 Thread Fabien Thomas
>> > > Hi Luigi, > > do you agree on polling having outlived its usefulness in the light > of interrupt moderating NIC's and SMP complications/disadvantages? > If you have only one interface yes polling is not really necessary. If you have 10 interfaces the interrupt moderation threshold is ha

Re: polling's future [was: Re: Dynamic Ticks/HZ]

2012-11-06 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <5098e8b4.5040...@freebsd.org>, Andre Oppermann writes: >> I think it should go away, and if there still is a relevant >> usage segment, be replaced by _real_ "device-polling" which is >> not tied to the network stack. > >Don't we already have the equivalent with a fast interru

Re: polling's future [was: Re: Dynamic Ticks/HZ]

2012-11-06 Thread Andre Oppermann
On 06.11.2012 11:27, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message <5098e526.6070...@freebsd.org>, Andre Oppermann writes: Hi Luigi, do you agree on polling having outlived its usefulness in the light of interrupt moderating NIC's and SMP complications/disadvantages? Can I just point out, tha

Re: polling's future [was: Re: Dynamic Ticks/HZ]

2012-11-06 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <5098e526.6070...@freebsd.org>, Andre Oppermann writes: >Hi Luigi, > >do you agree on polling having outlived its usefulness in the light >of interrupt moderating NIC's and SMP complications/disadvantages? Can I just point out, that what we have is not in fact "device-polling"

polling's future [was: Re: Dynamic Ticks/HZ]

2012-11-06 Thread Andre Oppermann
On 05.11.2012 17:57, Luigi Rizzo wrote: On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 04:25:36PM +, Joe Holden wrote: Luigi Rizzo wrote: On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 08:11:41AM -0500, Ryan Stone wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 4:40 AM, Joe Holden wrote: doh, running kernel wasn't as GENERIC as I thought it was, loo