Re: Hang near end of kernel probes since r213267 (likely earlier)

2010-10-04 Thread David Wolfskill
On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 08:56:13PM -0500, Brandon Gooch wrote: > On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 8:33 PM, David Wolfskill wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 04:30:01PM -0700, David Wolfskill wrote: > >> ... > >> I found the disabling the "Module Bay" appears to avoid the hang -- > >> reliably. > >> > >> Th

Re: Hang near end of kernel probes since r213267 (likely earlier)

2010-10-03 Thread David Wolfskill
On Sun, Oct 03, 2010 at 03:42:51PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: > ... > well you got the stacktrace of the keyboard handler since you got into > ddb via the keyboard.. OK > you need to see what ELSE is running.. especially the initial threads. > and look at THOSE stacks Ah. My lack of pr

Re: Hang near end of kernel probes since r213267 (likely earlier)

2010-10-03 Thread Julian Elischer
On 10/3/10 6:14 AM, David Wolfskill wrote: On Sun, Oct 03, 2010 at 02:52:19PM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 03/10/2010 14:28 David Wolfskill said the following: [snipped] Can't you just drop to DDB prompt and examine where the threads are? Eh -- thanks for the reality check; I needed that. :

Re: Hang near end of kernel probes since r213267 (likely earlier)

2010-10-03 Thread David Wolfskill
On Sun, Oct 03, 2010 at 02:52:19PM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 03/10/2010 14:28 David Wolfskill said the following: > [snipped] > > Can't you just drop to DDB prompt and examine where the threads are? Eh -- thanks for the reality check; I needed that. :-} OK; I enabled the KDB & DDB options

Re: Hang near end of kernel probes since r213267 (likely earlier)

2010-10-03 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 03/10/2010 14:28 David Wolfskill said the following: [snipped] Can't you just drop to DDB prompt and examine where the threads are? -- Andriy Gapon ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-curren

Re: Hang near end of kernel probes since r213267 (likely earlier)

2010-10-03 Thread David Wolfskill
On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 08:38:59PM -0700, David Wolfskill wrote: > On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 08:56:13PM -0500, Brandon Gooch wrote: > > ... > > > Any ideas on what mught be causing CURRENT to hang -- sometimes > > > -- given that it appears to involve the Modular Bay (or the specific > > > device tha

Re: Hang near end of kernel probes since r213267 (likely earlier)

2010-10-01 Thread Brandon Gooch
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:38 PM, David Wolfskill wrote: > On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 08:56:13PM -0500, Brandon Gooch wrote: >> ... >> > Any ideas on what mught be causing CURRENT to hang -- sometimes >> > -- given that it appears to involve the Modular Bay (or the specific >> > device that is in the

Re: Hang near end of kernel probes since r213267 (likely earlier)

2010-10-01 Thread David Wolfskill
On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 08:37:50PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: > ... > > albert(8.1-S)[11] ls -lT > > total 196 > > -rw-r--r--  1 david  wheel   11497 Oct  1 20:19:06 2010 console.log > > -rw-r--r--  1 david  wheel   60397 Oct  1 19:26:23 2010 dmesg.boot > > -rw-r--r--  1 david  wheel  114752 Oct

Re: Hang near end of kernel probes since r213267 (likely earlier)

2010-10-01 Thread David Wolfskill
On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 08:37:50PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: > ... > This might sound like a stupid idea, but can you try booting with > a CD/DVD in the drive? Ah -- sorry about that. :-( OK; it may be a bit before I get a successful verbose boot without ATA_CAM and with the CD/DVD drive i

Re: Hang near end of kernel probes since r213267 (likely earlier)

2010-10-01 Thread David Wolfskill
On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 08:56:13PM -0500, Brandon Gooch wrote: > ... > > Any ideas on what mught be causing CURRENT to hang -- sometimes > > -- given that it appears to involve the Modular Bay (or the specific > > device that is in the bay during the hang)? > > > > If you haven't already, it may b

Re: Hang near end of kernel probes since r213267 (likely earlier)

2010-10-01 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 8:24 PM, David Wolfskill wrote: > On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 07:22:33PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: >> ... >> > Any ideas on what mught be causing CURRENT to hang -- sometimes >> > -- given that it appears to involve the Modular Bay (or the specific >> > device that is in the

Re: Hang near end of kernel probes since r213267 (likely earlier)

2010-10-01 Thread David Wolfskill
On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 07:22:33PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: > ... > > Any ideas on what mught be causing CURRENT to hang -- sometimes > > -- given that it appears to involve the Modular Bay (or the specific > > device that is in the bay during the hang)? > > Do you have boot -v output? Ye

Re: Hang near end of kernel probes since r213267 (likely earlier)

2010-10-01 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 6:33 PM, David Wolfskill wrote: > On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 04:30:01PM -0700, David Wolfskill wrote: >> ... >> I found the disabling the "Module Bay" appears to avoid the hang -- >> reliably. >> >> That appears to be the minimally-invasive change necessary to avoid the >> hang

Re: Hang near end of kernel probes since r213267 (likely earlier)

2010-10-01 Thread Brandon Gooch
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 8:33 PM, David Wolfskill wrote: > On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 04:30:01PM -0700, David Wolfskill wrote: >> ... >> I found the disabling the "Module Bay" appears to avoid the hang -- >> reliably. >> >> That appears to be the minimally-invasive change necessary to avoid the >> hang

Re: Hang near end of kernel probes since r213267 (likely earlier)

2010-10-01 Thread David Wolfskill
On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 04:30:01PM -0700, David Wolfskill wrote: > ... > I found the disabling the "Module Bay" appears to avoid the hang -- > reliably. > > That appears to be the minimally-invasive change necessary to avoid the > hang. > Until I realized what was in the Modular Bay: the CD/

Re: Hang near end of kernel probes since r213267 (likely earlier)

2010-10-01 Thread David Wolfskill
On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 02:20:38PM -0700, David Wolfskill wrote: > I have recently acquired a new laptop (to replace the "Frankenlaptop" > I've been using for the last several years). > ... > While I'm not about to assume that this indicates something wrong > with FreeBSD, I'm a bit less inclined t