Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

If memory serves me right, "Craig Reyenga" wrote: > >No matter what, disc#1 has a finite amount of space and it's going to be > >impossible to come up with a combination of packages that keeps everyone > >happy. Sooner or later, "popular" comes down to somebody's judgement. > > > >To see what's cu

Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

>No matter what, disc#1 has a finite amount of space and it's going to be >impossible to come up with a combination of packages that keeps everyone >happy. Sooner or later, "popular" comes down to somebody's judgement. > >To see what's currently in the package split, look at >src/release/scripts/p

Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

Harald Hanche-Olsen wrote: Indeed. There is an old story from the days of the big irons, when IBM had an "objective" release criterion stating that no new release of their OS would be shipped with more than 100 major bugs. As a result, before each release, the engineers would have a big meeting

Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

If memory serves me right, "Craig Reyenga" wrote: > These mentioned licensing issues make sense, however I still think that > there should be some sort of system to ensure big and/or popular packages to > make it to CD #1. No matter what, disc#1 has a finite amount of space and it's going to be im

Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 09:44:06PM -0500, Craig Reyenga wrote: > These mentioned licensing issues make sense, however I still think that > there should be some sort of system to ensure big and/or popular packages to > make it to CD #1. Request it. Bear in mind that disc 1 has limited free space.

Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 08:14:11PM -0500, Craig Reyenga wrote: > I haven't actually tried 5.0RC3 yet, so what I'm about to say may be > irrelevant, but here goes: > > One thing I noticed in previous releases is that the choice of packages is a > little odd. Many small packages and ones that are no

Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

These mentioned licensing issues make sense, however I still think that there should be some sort of system to ensure big and/or popular packages to make it to CD #1. -Craig > > One thing I noticed in previous releases is that the choice of > > packages is a > > little odd. Many small packages an

Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 14:25, Keith Jones wrote: > Craig Reyenga wrote: > > > One thing I noticed in previous releases is that the choice of > > packages is a > > little odd. Many small packages and ones that are not popular seem to make > > it on the first CD, while bigger and/or more popular one

Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

Craig Reyenga wrote: One thing I noticed in previous releases is that the choice of packages is a little odd. Many small packages and ones that are not popular seem to make it on the first CD, while bigger and/or more popular ones are stuck being fetched+built manually after. This can be a pain

Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

I haven't actually tried 5.0RC3 yet, so what I'm about to say may be irrelevant, but here goes: One thing I noticed in previous releases is that the choice of packages is a little odd. Many small packages and ones that are not popular seem to make it on the first CD, while bigger and/or more popul

Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Trish Lynch wrote: > I just want to point out, POLA really only applies to -STABLE, and we're > talking very specifically about -CURRENT. > > IN -CURRENT, substantial changes can be made with little warning, and only > documentation sometimes (most of the time, people give a *

Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ..com>, "local.freebsd.current" writes: >That sounds like "it's time to ship so we're going to ship". That's it. >I'm not trying to get up anyone's nose here, but aren't there >objective release criteria? yes: "No more delays" :-) I th

Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Trish Lynch wrote: > On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Andy Farkas wrote: > > Perhaps I do things in a non-standard way, but its worked for the last 8 > > years from 2.x through to 4.7-stable. > > > > Firstly, I download 'floppies' and create the 2 boot disks, kern.flp and > > mgsroot.f

Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > On (2003/01/14 10:22), local.freebsd.current wrote: > > > >In the meantime we _really_ have to ship 5.0-RELEASE, we keep > > >slipping it. > > > > That sounds like "it's time to ship so we're going to ship". > > > > I'm not trying to get up anyone's no

Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Andy Farkas wrote: > > > > Once again it's my pleasure to announce Release Cadidate 3 of > > FreeBSD 5.0. > > Perhaps I do things in a non-standard way, but its worked for the last 8 > years from 2.x through to 4.7-stable. > > Firstly, I download 'floppies' and create the

Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

+ Sheldon Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: | On (2003/01/14 10:22), local.freebsd.current wrote: | | > I'm not trying to get up anyone's nose here, but aren't there | > objective release criteria? | | Yes. One of the release criteria is that it come into existence. :-) Indeed. There is an old story

Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .com>, "local.freebsd.current" writes: >On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:46:43 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>In the meantime we _really_ have to ship 5.0-RELEASE, we keep >>slipping it. > >That sounds like "it's time to ship so we're going to ship". That's it. >I'm not t

Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

Sheldon Hearn wrote: > On (2003/01/14 10:22), local.freebsd.current wrote: > > >In the meantime we _really_ have to ship 5.0-RELEASE, we keep > > >slipping it. > > > > That sounds like "it's time to ship so we're going to ship". > > > > I'm not trying to get up anyone's nose here, but aren't there

Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

On (2003/01/14 10:22), local.freebsd.current wrote: > >In the meantime we _really_ have to ship 5.0-RELEASE, we keep > >slipping it. > > That sounds like "it's time to ship so we're going to ship". > > I'm not trying to get up anyone's nose here, but aren't there > objective release criteria? Y

Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:46:43 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >In the meantime we _really_ have to ship 5.0-RELEASE, we keep >slipping it. That sounds like "it's time to ship so we're going to ship". I'm not trying to get up anyone's nose here, but aren't there objective release criteria? To Uns

Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

If memory serves me right, Andy Farkas wrote: > > Once again it's my pleasure to announce Release Cadidate 3 of > > FreeBSD 5.0. > > Perhaps I do things in a non-standard way, but its worked for the last 8 > years from 2.x through to 4.7-stable. > > Firstly, I download 'floppies' and create

Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

> > Le Monday 13 January 2003 18:22, Andy Farkas a écrit : French is such a sexy language... :) > indeed : > (see > >) > Again, the acronym POLA springs to mind -- :{ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andy Fark

Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

Le Monday 13 January 2003 18:22, Andy Farkas a écrit : [SNIP] > > # pkg_add cvsup-without-gui-16.1f.tgz > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libssl.so.2" not found > # > > Why does pkg_install now need libssl? indeed : (see

Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

> > > > Why does pkg_install now need libssl? > > > > troutmask:kargl[251] ldd /usr/sbin/pkg_add > /usr/sbin/pkg_add: > libfetch.so.3 => /usr/lib/libfetch.so.3 (0x28074000) > libmd.so.2 => /usr/lib/libmd.so.2 (0x2808) > libssl.so.2 => /usr/lib/libssl.so.2 (0x2808a000) >

Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 03:22:02AM +1000, Andy Farkas wrote: > > > > Once again it's my pleasure to announce Release Cadidate 3 of > > FreeBSD 5.0. > > > Sysinstall complains about not being able to find the 'crypto' stuff, but > thats ok - its always done that. Obviously, this isn't okay. > >

Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

> > Once again it's my pleasure to announce Release Cadidate 3 of > FreeBSD 5.0. Perhaps I do things in a non-standard way, but its worked for the last 8 years from 2.x through to 4.7-stable. Firstly, I download 'floppies' and create the 2 boot disks, kern.flp and mgsroot.flp. Then I download

Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Roderick van Domburg" writes: >I would like to point to a currently unresolved issue that Thomas Moestl is >helping me solve on freebsd-sparc@. It isn't listed on the Open Issues page, >but I'd say it's something that needs to be resolved before the release is >rol

Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

I would like to point to a currently unresolved issue that Thomas Moestl is helping me solve on freebsd-sparc@. It isn't listed on the Open Issues page, but I'd say it's something that needs to be resolved before the release is rolled. The thread is titled "panic: trap: fast data access mmu miss"

Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

(see below, my question got answered already) Joe Laughlin wrote: > Scott Long wrote: > > > All, > > > > Once again it's my pleasure to announce Release Cadidate 3 of > > FreeBSD 5.0. i386, pc98, alpha, ia64, and sparc64 releases are > > available on most mirrors now. Thanks to Marcel Moolenaar