Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-) - Hald and xorg?

2012-11-08 Thread Freddie Cash
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Chuck Burns wrote: > Actually, KDE does -not- need hal. KDE uses the SOLID system for automatic > mounting/unmounting of removable/non-removable drives. There are two > backends for SOLID. Hal, and udisks. Since FreeBSD does not support udisks, > then the only vi

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-) - Hald and xorg?

2012-11-08 Thread Chuck Burns
On 11/8/2012 1:46 PM, Warren Block wrote: On Thu, 8 Nov 2012, Richard Kuhns wrote: On 11/08/12 10:45, Warren Block wrote: On Thu, 8 Nov 2012, CeDeROM wrote: I have tested additional options in xorg runtime :-) With the patched xorg mouse driver 1.7.1 (or driver version >=1.7.2) situation is

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-08 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 8 Nov 2012, Richard Kuhns wrote: On 11/08/12 10:45, Warren Block wrote: On Thu, 8 Nov 2012, CeDeROM wrote: I have tested additional options in xorg runtime :-) With the patched xorg mouse driver 1.7.1 (or driver version >=1.7.2) situation is following: 1. With hald and dbus no xorg.

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-08 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 8 Nov 2012, Tomek CEDRO wrote: WARNING!!! When AllowEmptyInput = False AND Hal is running really really bad things happen to Xorg!! Keys are messed up and screen is refreshed only after mouse move! Things are slow and the end of the word is near :-) AllowEmptyInput seems to be exclusiv

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-08 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 8 Nov 2012, Ian Lepore wrote: On Thu, 2012-11-08 at 08:45 -0700, Warren Block wrote: On Thu, 8 Nov 2012, CeDeROM wrote: I have tested additional options in xorg runtime :-) With the patched xorg mouse driver 1.7.1 (or driver version >=1.7.2) situation is following: 1. With hald and

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-08 Thread Tomek CEDRO
8-bit scene is still alive and rox! :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info On Nov 8, 2012 6:11 PM, "Chuck Burns" wrote: > On 11/8/2012 10:58 AM, Richard Kuhns wrote: > >> On 11/08/12 10:45, Warren Block wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 8 Nov 2012, CeDeROM wrote: >>> >>> I have tested addition

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-08 Thread CeDeROM
Yes, Hal is also required for other applications to detect hardware (i.e. KDE). This is pretty nice feature for desktop environment, maybe unwanted to embedded or dedicated system :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info On Nov 8, 2012 5:59 PM, "Richard Kuhns" wrote: > On 11/08/12 10:

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-08 Thread Tomek CEDRO
WARNING!!! When AllowEmptyInput = False AND Hal is running really really bad things happen to Xorg!! Keys are messed up and screen is refreshed only after mouse move! Things are slow and the end of the word is near :-) AllowEmptyInput seems to be exclusive with Hal!! Please confirm :-) -- CeDeR

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-08 Thread Chuck Burns
On 11/8/2012 10:58 AM, Richard Kuhns wrote: On 11/08/12 10:45, Warren Block wrote: On Thu, 8 Nov 2012, CeDeROM wrote: I have tested additional options in xorg runtime :-) With the patched xorg mouse driver 1.7.1 (or driver version >=1.7.2) situation is following: 1. With hald and dbus no xor

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-08 Thread Richard Kuhns
On 11/08/12 10:45, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 8 Nov 2012, CeDeROM wrote: > >> I have tested additional options in xorg runtime :-) >> >> With the patched xorg mouse driver 1.7.1 (or driver version >=1.7.2) >> situation is following: >> >> 1. With hald and dbus no xorg.conf file is needed. Howev

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-08 Thread Ian Lepore
On Thu, 2012-11-08 at 08:45 -0700, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 8 Nov 2012, CeDeROM wrote: > > > I have tested additional options in xorg runtime :-) > > > > With the patched xorg mouse driver 1.7.1 (or driver version >=1.7.2) > > situation is following: > > > > 1. With hald and dbus no xorg.conf

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-08 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 8 Nov 2012, CeDeROM wrote: I have tested additional options in xorg runtime :-) With the patched xorg mouse driver 1.7.1 (or driver version >=1.7.2) situation is following: 1. With hald and dbus no xorg.conf file is needed. However it might bo option to pass some additional featutes pa

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-08 Thread CeDeROM
I was using xorg from package so it is default configuration, which is built with Hal support because it can make use of it I guess... The more important thing is that Xorg starts without autodetecting input devices by default. Maybe this is caused by Hal support being compiled in. This might imp

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-08 Thread Julian H. Stacey
CeDeROM wrote: > --e89a8f22bd09d504cdf7def8 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hello :-) > > I have tested additional options in xorg runtime :-) > > With the patched xorg mouse driver 1.7.1 (or driver version >=1.7.2) > situation is following: > > 1. With hald and dbus no xorg.c

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-08 Thread Boris Samorodov
08.11.2012 12:46, CeDeROM пишет: > With no hald and dbus mouse and keyboard does not work in xorg Do you mean "that if xorg-server is compiled with hal but you do not launch it at startup" mouse and keyboard does not work? If yes, I'd say that this is a bit... expected. ;-) -- WBR, Boris Samoro

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-08 Thread CeDeROM
Hello :-) I have tested additional options in xorg runtime :-) With the patched xorg mouse driver 1.7.1 (or driver version >=1.7.2) situation is following: 1. With hald and dbus no xorg.conf file is needed. However it might bo option to pass some additional featutes parameters with xorg.conf. 2.

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-07 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 8:35 AM, David Chisnall wrote: > On 7 Nov 2012, at 08:20, Warren Block wrote: > >> It's not saying that hald is run by default, merely that xorg-server will >> try to use it by default. > > And will fail to detect any input devices if hald is not running, but will > correc

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-07 Thread David Chisnall
On 7 Nov 2012, at 08:20, Warren Block wrote: > It's not saying that hald is run by default, merely that xorg-server will try > to use it by default. And will fail to detect any input devices if hald is not running, but will correctly detect them if the X server is compiled without HAL support.

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-07 Thread Chuck Burns
On 11/7/2012 10:27 AM, Warren Block wrote: On Wed, 7 Nov 2012, CeDeROM wrote: Isn't this a Xorg bug then? When I have no configuration file Hal should provide the configuration, so sooner or later the mouse should start moving... but is does not.. Do I get http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/h

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-07 Thread Warren Block
On Wed, 7 Nov 2012, CeDeROM wrote: Isn't this a Xorg bug then? When I have no configuration file Hal should provide the configuration, so sooner or later the mouse should start moving... but is does not.. Do I get http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html correct that when I am using xo

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-07 Thread Warren Block
On Wed, 7 Nov 2012, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Ian Lepore wrote: Before you do that, read this: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html The page is bad here: "Summary ... just let xorg-server use hald by default." FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE & 9.0-RELEASE by default do Not run hald

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-07 Thread CeDeROM
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Boris Samorodov wrote: >> You may be interested in: >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/171433 >> >> If the patch from the PR helps you, please submit a follow-up >> to the PR. > > Well, actually I've just committed an upstream patch to > x11-drivers

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-07 Thread Boris Samorodov
07.11.2012 11:57, Boris Samorodov пишет: > 07.11.2012 01:14, CeDeROM пишет: >> I have also noted that mouse cursor is very often not moving in Xorg >> but it works in the console! I need to move cursor while statrx or >> restart Xorg for mouse to start moving. Is it a bug or feature? :-) >> >> In t

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-06 Thread Boris Samorodov
07.11.2012 01:14, CeDeROM пишет: > I have also noted that mouse cursor is very often not moving in Xorg > but it works in the console! I need to move cursor while statrx or > restart Xorg for mouse to start moving. Is it a bug or feature? :-) > > In the xorg.conf: > Section "InputDevice" > Identi

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-06 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Ian Lepore wrote: > On Tue, 2012-11-06 at 22:57 +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Hi, > > Reference: > > > From: CeDeROM > > > Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 22:14:03 +0100 > > > Message-id: > > > > > > > CeDeROM wrote: > > > I have also noted that mouse cursor is very

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-06 Thread Ian Lepore
On Wed, 2012-11-07 at 00:34 +0100, CeDeROM wrote: > Isn't this a Xorg bug then? When I have no configuration file Hal > should > provide the configuration, so sooner or later the mouse should start > moving... but is does not.. > > Do I get http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html correct

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-06 Thread CeDeROM
Isn't this a Xorg bug then? When I have no configuration file Hal should provide the configuration, so sooner or later the mouse should start moving... but is does not.. Do I get http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html correct that when I am using xorg.conf there is no need for Hal and w

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-06 Thread Ian Lepore
On Tue, 2012-11-06 at 22:57 +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Hi, > Reference: > > From: CeDeROM > > Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 22:14:03 +0100 > > Message-id: > > > > CeDeROM wrote: > > I have also noted that mouse cursor is very often not moving in Xorg > > but it work

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-06 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, Reference: > From: CeDeROM > Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 22:14:03 +0100 > Message-id: > CeDeROM wrote: > I have also noted that mouse cursor is very often not moving in Xorg > but it works in the console! I need to move cursor while statrx or > restart Xorg for mouse to start

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-06 Thread CeDeROM
I have also noted that mouse cursor is very often not moving in Xorg but it works in the console! I need to move cursor while statrx or restart Xorg for mouse to start moving. Is it a bug or feature? :-) In the xorg.conf: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-06 Thread CeDeROM
Okay, Ill try to build the kernel with debug symbols and provide backtrace if possible. The generic one provided with the distribution is stripped? Where can I find configuration for release kernel? :-) Thanks for all hints! :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info ___

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-06 Thread Adrian Chadd
+1 - what he said. Thanks, Adrian On 6 November 2012 10:41, Eitan Adler wrote: > On 6 November 2012 12:32, CeDeROM wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: >>> Please file a bug about the intel wifi crash! >> >> Hello Adrian! :-) Should I attach kernel core dump / backtr

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-06 Thread Eitan Adler
On 6 November 2012 12:32, CeDeROM wrote: > On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: >> Please file a bug about the intel wifi crash! > > Hello Adrian! :-) Should I attach kernel core dump / backtrace or > simply write that "kernel crash on unstable wifi connection or when > switching r

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-06 Thread CeDeROM
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > Please file a bug about the intel wifi crash! Hello Adrian! :-) Should I attach kernel core dump / backtrace or simply write that "kernel crash on unstable wifi connection or when switching radio on and off multiple times or switching wpa_supp

Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

2012-11-06 Thread Adrian Chadd
Please file a bug about the intel wifi crash! adrian On 6 November 2012 05:31, CeDeROM wrote: > Hello world! :-) > > After big shock with new organization of 9.0 and some mobilization to > take part in RC I have tested 9.1-RC{1,2,3} and found no bigger issues > so far from user perspective :-