Re: Problems with new IDE's & -current

1999-01-18 Thread Karl Pielorz
Andrew Atrens wrote: > > On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, Karl Pielorz wrote: > > Karl, > > Let's see your (dmesg) probe messages ... :) they may shed some light on > what's happening. I don't claim to be an expert on wd.c but from what I > can tell it seems that controller and drive capabilities are pro

Re: Problems with new IDE's & -current

1999-01-17 Thread Andrew Atrens
---+ -- > Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 20:51:42 + > From: Karl Pielorz > To: curr...@freebsd.org > Subject: Problems with new IDE's & -current > > Hi, > > I have a system that's meant as a 'backup disk spool' - it has a 2Gb SCSI > drive to

Re: Problems with new IDE's & -current

1999-01-17 Thread Bruce Evans
>> New models of IBM IDE drives are fast enough to consume a significant >> fraction (perhaps > 100%) of PIO mode 4 bandwidth (16.6 MB/s). Don't >> use them without DMA. Don't use them without UltraDMA (33.3 MB/s) if >> you want full performance. > >I presume the last "don't" should have been a '

Re: Problems with new IDE's & -current

1999-01-17 Thread Karl Pielorz
On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Bruce Evans wrote: > New models of IBM IDE drives are fast enough to consume a significant > fraction (perhaps > 100%) of PIO mode 4 bandwidth (16.6 MB/s). Don't > use them without DMA. Don't use them without UltraDMA (33.3 MB/s) if > you want full performance. I presume th

Re: Problems with new IDE's & -current

1999-01-17 Thread Bruce Evans
>> > The machine is a dual P90 (running SMP) - I get the problems even with a >> > single CPU kernel... It's running Neptune chipset (quite old) - and only >> > has 1 IDE channel. >> >> I would say that this has something to do with the DMA support, but since >> Neptune's IDE controller isn't DMA

Re: Problems with new IDE's & -current

1999-01-17 Thread Lee Cremeans
On Sun, Jan 17, 1999 at 09:29:19PM +, Karl Pielorz wrote: > > > Lee Cremeans wrote: > > > > The machine is a dual P90 (running SMP) - I get the problems even with a > > > single CPU kernel... It's running Neptune chipset (quite old) - and only > > > has 1 IDE channel. > > > > I would say th

Re: Problems with new IDE's & -current

1999-01-17 Thread Karl Pielorz
Lee Cremeans wrote: > > The machine is a dual P90 (running SMP) - I get the problems even with a > > single CPU kernel... It's running Neptune chipset (quite old) - and only > > has 1 IDE channel. > > I would say that this has something to do with the DMA support, but since > Neptune's IDE cont

Re: Problems with new IDE's & -current

1999-01-17 Thread Lee Cremeans
On Sun, Jan 17, 1999 at 08:51:42PM +, Karl Pielorz wrote: > Hi, > > I have a system that's meant as a 'backup disk spool' - it has a 2Gb SCSI > drive to boot from, and then 2 x 16Gb IDE drives (IBM-DTTA-351680's). > > The system works fine so long as I stick to using the SCSI drives... If I u

Problems with new IDE's & -current

1999-01-17 Thread Karl Pielorz
Hi, I have a system that's meant as a 'backup disk spool' - it has a 2Gb SCSI drive to boot from, and then 2 x 16Gb IDE drives (IBM-DTTA-351680's). The system works fine so long as I stick to using the SCSI drives... If I use the IDE's (e.g. backup another machine to them, tar / untar 'usr/src' t