Re: Ports with daemons on uninstall...

2013-07-15 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Mark Felder wrote: > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013, at 8:44, RW wrote: > > > > Is that really correct? I would expect the deinstall to be done after > > the build has completed successfully. > > > > That might not be accurate with a current portmaster, but we used to > hav

Re: Ports with daemons on uninstall...

2013-07-15 Thread Mark Felder
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013, at 8:44, RW wrote: > > Is that really correct? I would expect the deinstall to be done after > the build has completed successfully. > That might not be accurate with a current portmaster, but we used to have that happen all too frequently. I just checked the plist and it ha

Re: Ports with daemons on uninstall...

2013-07-15 Thread Ian FREISLICH
Walter Hurry wrote: > On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 08:34:05 -0500, Mark Felder wrote: > > > As long as this behavior only happens during pkg installs and never with > > ports, I'm OK. The worst is when a coworker forgets that the mysql port > > stops the daemon and my coworker upgrades with portmaster... t

Re: Ports with daemons on uninstall...

2013-07-15 Thread Lars Engels
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 01:46:03PM +, Walter Hurry wrote: > On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 08:34:05 -0500, Mark Felder wrote: > > > As long as this behavior only happens during pkg installs and never with > > ports, I'm OK. The worst is when a coworker forgets that the mysql port > > stops the daemon and

Re: Ports with daemons on uninstall...

2013-07-15 Thread Walter Hurry
On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 08:34:05 -0500, Mark Felder wrote: > As long as this behavior only happens during pkg installs and never with > ports, I'm OK. The worst is when a coworker forgets that the mysql port > stops the daemon and my coworker upgrades with portmaster... the daemon > is off the entire

Re: Ports with daemons on uninstall...

2013-07-15 Thread RW
On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 08:34:05 -0500 Mark Felder wrote: > On Sun, Jul 14, 2013, at 14:49, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > > > Strongly agreed -- and it's what other operating systems do, either > > by policy or by convention. > > > > As long as this behavior only happens during pkg installs and never >

Re: Ports with daemons on uninstall...

2013-07-15 Thread Mark Felder
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013, at 14:49, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > Strongly agreed -- and it's what other operating systems do, either by > policy or by convention. > As long as this behavior only happens during pkg installs and never with ports, I'm OK. The worst is when a coworker forgets that the mysql

Re: Ports with daemons on uninstall...

2013-07-14 Thread Garrett Wollman
In article <20130714191725.ga30...@stack.nl>, jil...@stack.nl writes: >Apart from the annoyance of the restarts, automatic stopping and >starting is probably the best policy for having things "just work". Some >daemons will crash or otherwise stop being useful when their files have >been deleted o

Re: Ports with daemons on uninstall...

2013-07-14 Thread Jilles Tjoelker
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 05:52:37PM +0200, Ian FREISLICH wrote: > I have to ask if there's a standard for the way ports should handle > their daemons when the port is uninstalled. > I've encountered 3 varients of ports behaviour on uninstall: > 1. Do nothing > 2. Stop the daemon > 3. Ask if the da

Re: Ports with daemons on uninstall...

2013-07-14 Thread Scot Hetzel
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Ian FREISLICH wrote: > Hi > > I have to ask if there's a standard for the way ports should handle > their daemons when the port is uninstalled. > > I've encountered 3 varients of ports behaviour on uninstall: > > 1. Do nothing > 2. Stop the daemon > 3. Ask if the

Ports with daemons on uninstall...

2013-07-14 Thread Ian FREISLICH
Hi I have to ask if there's a standard for the way ports should handle their daemons when the port is uninstalled. I've encountered 3 varients of ports behaviour on uninstall: 1. Do nothing 2. Stop the daemon 3. Ask if the daemon should be stopped #1 closely followed by #3 are the least irritat