Quoting Christian Weisgerber (from Mon, 21 Sep
2020 21:55:00 - (UTC)):
Well, I was asking for a summary.
For instance, I don't know if the Git migration is merely a switch
of the version control system or what other changes will be layered
on top of it as a matter of course, e.g. will th
Warner Losh wrote in
:
|On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 2:55 PM Steffen Nurpmeso \
|wrote:
|> Lev Serebryakov wrote in
|> <23e7fc1c-6769-ceaf-4089-46e5cc575...@freebsd.org>:
|>|On 19.09.2020 19:05, Bakul Shah wrote:
|>|>> These are the main ones. The three down sides are lack of $FreeBSD$ \
|>|>>
On 2020-09-21, Pete Wright wrote:
> I believe the most detailed report on this was in the 2020-04 quarterly
> status report:
> https://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2020-04-2020-06.html#Git-Migration-Working-Group
I saw that at the time. It basically says that the conversion of
the reposi
On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 2:55 PM Steffen Nurpmeso wrote:
> Lev Serebryakov wrote in
> <23e7fc1c-6769-ceaf-4089-46e5cc575...@freebsd.org>:
> |On 19.09.2020 19:05, Bakul Shah wrote:
> |>> These are the main ones. The three down sides are lack of $FreeBSD$ \
> |>> support
> |>> and tags in gener
Lev Serebryakov wrote in
<23e7fc1c-6769-ceaf-4089-46e5cc575...@freebsd.org>:
|On 19.09.2020 19:05, Bakul Shah wrote:
|>> These are the main ones. The three down sides are lack of $FreeBSD$ \
|>> support
|>> and tags in general.
|>
|> Can a git hook be used for this?
|
|git filters could b
On 9/21/20 12:49 PM, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
On 2020-09-21, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
In my opinion the people which drive this didn't keep it behind
closed curtains, and they went step by step more public, as they
made progress. To me it looks like now, that they have something
which
> On Sep 21, 2020, at 4:22 AM, Alexander Leidinger
> wrote:
>
> Quoting Pete Wright (from Sun, 20 Sep 2020 08:41:13
> -0700):
>
> Not responding to Pete directly, but in general to this topic with some parts
> of what Pete considers good as something to hook into.
>
making quarterly r
On 2020-09-21, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
> In my opinion the people which drive this didn't keep it behind
> closed curtains, and they went step by step more public, as they
> made progress. To me it looks like now, that they have something
> which is presentable to the world (and not only to c
Quoting Pete Wright (from Sun, 20 Sep 2020
08:41:13 -0700):
Not responding to Pete directly, but in general to this topic with
some parts of what Pete considers good as something to hook into.
making quarterly reports about this for almost a years as well. We put out
calls for people to h
On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 15:37, Rick Macklem wrote:
> Christian Weisgerber wrote:
> > On 2020-09-19, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
> >
> > > Hrm. Maybe what I hear others saying, tho, and not entirely being
> replied
> > > to is just a nice concise document of the why. What I hear you saying
> is
> >
Christian Weisgerber wrote:
> On 2020-09-19, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>
> > Hrm. Maybe what I hear others saying, tho, and not entirely being replied
> > to is just a nice concise document of the why. What I hear you saying is
> > that GIT has momentum and that it's popular... (and I accept tha
On 2020-09-20 12:28, Andriy Gapon wrote:
> Just my +100500 to this.
>
> On 20/09/2020 18:03, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
>> On 2020-09-19, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>>
>>> Hrm. Maybe what I hear others saying, tho, and not entirely being
replied
>>> to is just a nice concise document of the why.
Just my +100500 to this.
On 20/09/2020 18:03, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
> On 2020-09-19, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>
>> Hrm. Maybe what I hear others saying, tho, and not entirely being replied
>> to is just a nice concise document of the why. What I hear you saying is
>> that GIT has momentu
On 19.09.2020 19:05, Bakul Shah wrote:
>> These are the main ones. The three down sides are lack of $FreeBSD$ support
>> and tags in general.
>
> Can a git hook be used for this?
git filters could be used for that, problem is it should be local
configuration. You could not configure filters in
On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 9:41 AM Pete Wright wrote:
>
> >> making quarterly reports about this for almost a years as well. We put
> out
> >> calls for people to help with the efforts about the same time. We have
> >> tried at every step of the way to be open and honest that this was
> going to
> >
On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 08:41:13AM -0700, Pete Wright wrote:
>
> > > making quarterly reports about this for almost a years as well. We put out
> > > calls for people to help with the efforts about the same time. We have
> > > tried at every step of the way to be open and honest that this was goin
making quarterly reports about this for almost a years as well. We put out
calls for people to help with the efforts about the same time. We have
tried at every step of the way to be open and honest that this was going to
happen.
All developer centric communications
I would argue that qua
On 2020-09-19, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
> Hrm. Maybe what I hear others saying, tho, and not entirely being replied
> to is just a nice concise document of the why. What I hear you saying is
> that GIT has momentum and that it's popular... (and I accept that --- it is
> evidently true), but the
> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 2:44 PM Lucas Nali de Magalh?es
> wrote:
>
> > Just My 2??
> >
> > On Sep 3, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
> >
> > ?On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 1:32 PM Chris wrote:
> >
> > On 2020-09-03 11:33, Kristof Provost wrote:
> >
> > On 3 Sep 2020, at 19:56, Chris wrote:
> >
>
Hi!
Thanks for clarification, Warner.
Focusing on downsides, I feel the second is fundamental.
Running (incremental) count is important especially for non-developers
like me (or developers not having commit bit) to report problems via ML.
It clarifies revision ranges in shorter and clearer form.
On Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 2:44 PM Lucas Nali de Magalhães
wrote:
> Just My 2¢…
>
> On Sep 3, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 1:32 PM Chris wrote:
>
> On 2020-09-03 11:33, Kristof Provost wrote:
>
> On 3 Sep 2020, at 19:56, Chris wrote:
>
> Why was the intention to s
Just My 2¢…
> On Sep 3, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 1:32 PM Chris wrote:
>
>>> On 2020-09-03 11:33, Kristof Provost wrote:
>>> On 3 Sep 2020, at 19:56, Chris wrote:
Why was the intention to switch NOT announced as such MUCH sooner?
>>> There was
Actually, frankly, yes. Nearly the first cogent summary I've found so far.
On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 2:22 AM Warner Losh wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 11:31 PM Zaphod Beeblebrox
> wrote:
>
>> Hrm. Maybe what I hear others saying, tho, and not entirely being
>> replied to is just a nice con
On Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 10:05 AM Bakul Shah wrote:
> On Sep 18, 2020, at 11:21 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
> >
> > These are the main ones. The three down sides are lack of $FreeBSD$
> support
> > and tags in general.
>
> Can a git hook be used for this?
>
No. Not really. There is an extension to git
Bakul Shah wrote in
:
|On Sep 18, 2020, at 11:21 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
|>
|> These are the main ones. The three down sides are lack of $FreeBSD$ \
|> support
|> and tags in general.
|
|Can a git hook be used for this?
I use a git pre-commit hook to fake-update SCCS IDs for my web
site (
On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 at 12:06, Bakul Shah wrote:
>
> The cgit-beta.FreeBSD.org and github trees are not identical the last
> time I looked (mainly in meta data). Any reason for not keeping them
> identical? I switched from the github tree to the cgit-beta tree.
The current GitHub mirror is missing
On Sep 18, 2020, at 11:21 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
>
> These are the main ones. The three down sides are lack of $FreeBSD$ support
> and tags in general.
Can a git hook be used for this?
>
> Yes. I've started doing a series of short videos explaining the change, why
> we are doing it and what to
I've taken the time to clean up this email (which I wrote on my phone last
thing yesterday) and expand it a little.
https://bsdimp.blogspot.com/2020/09/freebsd-subversion-to-git-migration.html
is the result. I'm planning on doing a number of videos about this, as well
as blog posts, FreeBSD Journ
On Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 11:31 PM Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
> Hrm. Maybe what I hear others saying, tho, and not entirely being replied
> to is just a nice concise document of the why. What I hear you saying is
> that GIT has momentum and that it's popular... (and I accept that --- it is
> evidentl
Hrm. Maybe what I hear others saying, tho, and not entirely being replied
to is just a nice concise document of the why. What I hear you saying is
that GIT has momentum and that it's popular... (and I accept that --- it is
evidently true), but then I hear handwaving about features, but no list of
Kyle Evans:
> > > This is probably better for a separate thread, but any idea if there
> >
> > I'm going to regret asking, but what would you need this feature
> > for?
>
> It's not necessarily that bad -- I used to use it for a poor
> substitute for git-worktree before I learned about that, for
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 4:15 PM Christian Weisgerber wrote:
>
> Kyle Evans:
>
> > > FWIW, I just committed a Got port (devel/got).
> >
> > This is probably better for a separate thread, but any idea if there
> > are plans to eventually support local filesystem cloning in got?
>
> I wouldn't know.
Kyle Evans:
> > FWIW, I just committed a Got port (devel/got).
>
> This is probably better for a separate thread, but any idea if there
> are plans to eventually support local filesystem cloning in got?
I wouldn't know.
I'm going to regret asking, but what would you need this feature
for?
--
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 3:05 PM Christian Weisgerber wrote:
>
> On 2020-09-02, Mason Loring Bliss wrote:
>
> > Just to throw it out there, https://gameoftrees.org/ would be interesting
> > to explore for this.
>
> FWIW, I just committed a Got port (devel/got).
>
This is probably better for a sep
On 2020-09-02, Mason Loring Bliss wrote:
> Just to throw it out there, https://gameoftrees.org/ would be interesting
> to explore for this.
FWIW, I just committed a Got port (devel/got).
--
Christian "naddy" Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de
___
Steve,
I was wrong to freak out so badly at your suggestion. I can give you an
explanation for why but it was wrong for me to do so.
I thought that the doc was better than it was and so I couldn't understand
and flashed to anger rather than listening.
So even so, my tone is well below the standa
On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 1:32 PM Chris wrote:
> On 2020-09-03 11:33, Kristof Provost wrote:
> > On 3 Sep 2020, at 19:56, Chris wrote:
> >> Why was the intention to switch NOT announced as such MUCH sooner?
> >>
> > There was discussion about a possible switch to git on the freebsd-git
> > mailing
>
On 2020-09-03 11:33, Kristof Provost wrote:
On 3 Sep 2020, at 19:56, Chris wrote:
Why was the intention to switch NOT announced as such MUCH sooner?
There was discussion about a possible switch to git on the freebsd-git
mailing
list as early as February 2017:
https://lists.freebsd.org/piperma
On Thu, Sep 03, 2020 at 11:40:17AM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
> To the contrary 5 years ago the project on @developers basically
> ran off one of the committers over the very idea of using git
> for the project. It was shortly after I returned, so I find it
> very ironic that now its all "git
>
>
> > On Sep 1, 2020, at 10:59 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> >
> > On Tuesday, 1 September 2020 at 13:14:10 -0400, Ed Maste wrote:
> >> We've been updating the svn-git converter and pushing out a new
> >> converted repo every two weeks, and are now approaching the time where
> >> we'd lik
On 3 Sep 2020, at 19:56, Chris wrote:
Why was the intention to switch NOT announced as such MUCH sooner?
There was discussion about a possible switch to git on the freebsd-git
mailing list as early as February 2017:
https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-git/2017-February/92.html
Ed
On 2020-09-03 11:03, Kurt Jaeger wrote:
Hi!
Why was the intention to switch NOT announced as such MUCH sooner?
Because communicating complex issues which might cause conflict
and flame wars etc is not easy. Everyone prefers to hack on code,
and possibly procrastinates on the hard stuff 8-}
A
Hi!
> Why was the intention to switch NOT announced as such MUCH sooner?
Because communicating complex issues which might cause conflict
and flame wars etc is not easy. Everyone prefers to hack on code,
and possibly procrastinates on the hard stuff 8-}
And all those that do the really heavy work
I've been wanting to comment on the git(1) ==> svn(1) switch for
some time now. I feel quite strongly about it, and rightfully so
for many reasons. But _because_ I feel so strongly about it. I've
refrained from doing so. So as to speak in an objective manner --
I'm not _quite_ there yet.
But I wan
Willem Jan Withagen wjw at digiware.nl wrote on
Wed Sep 2 19:50:35 UTC 2020 :
> For me Git without Github (or any other reviewing environment) is only
> half the change, so I'm wondering where code review will take place.
When I look at the likes of, say, https://cgit-beta.freebsd.org/src/log
> The underlying initializing 'git init' commit hash must be
> signed by security officer key having sufficient human PGP-WoT.
>
> Git also supports sha-256 soon now, adoption should
> be researched from various online article series and
> work product before committing plans...
> https://lwn.net/A
On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 09:47:06AM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote:
> Checking out /usr/src as u...@freebsd.org
>
> svn checkout svn+ssh://u...@svn.freebsd.org/base/head /usr/src
git checkout ssh://u...@git.freebsd.org/base/head /usr/src
> Checking out /usr/src without freebsd.org account
>
> svn che
On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 08:01:17AM +0200, Kurt Jaeger wrote:
> A short intro on git for svn users:
> https://hackmd.io/ML5TSl8mQ5-27B5eqDf7YA?view
For people like me that will not click on random URLs ...
... just feed "svn to git cheat-sheet" to your favorite search engine.
Disclaimer: my initi
On 2-9-2020 21:24, Rainer Duffner wrote:
Am 02.09.2020 um 18:22 schrieb Warner Losh :
On Sep 2, 2020, at 10:14 AM, Ed Maste wrote:
On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 02:31, Steve Kargl
wrote:
A short intro on git for svn users:
https://hackmd.io/ML5TSl8mQ5-27B5eqDf7YA?view
ROTFL. From the "short
> Am 02.09.2020 um 18:22 schrieb Warner Losh :
>
>
>
>> On Sep 2, 2020, at 10:14 AM, Ed Maste wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 02:31, Steve Kargl
>> wrote:
>>>
A short intro on git for svn users:
https://hackmd.io/ML5TSl8mQ5-27B5eqDf7YA?view
>>>
>>> ROTFL. From the "sho
On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 01:38:09PM -0400, Theron wrote:
> After the transition, will FreeBSD base contain the tool for the cloning the
> FreeBSD repository (not one of the mirrors?)
Just to throw it out there, https://gameoftrees.org/ would be interesting
to explore for this.
--
Mason Loring Bl
resending, because I clearly have no clue.
On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Ian Lepore wrote:
> On Wed, 2020-09-02 at 14:45 -0400, Dan Langille wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Ian Lepore wrote:
> >
> > > Seriously, Warner?
> >
> > Yes, seriously. We are adults. Act accordingly.
> >
On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Ian Lepore wrote:
> On Wed, 2020-09-02 at 14:45 -0400, Dan Langille wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Ian Lepore wrote:
> >
> > > Seriously, Warner?
> >
> > Yes, seriously. We are adults. Act accordingly.
> >
> > Don't be confused. I also thought the m
On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 12:46 PM Dan Langille wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Ian Lepore wrote:
>
> > Seriously, Warner?
>
> Yes, seriously. We are adults. Act accordingly.
>
I agree it was over the top.
> Don't be confused. I also thought the message he was replying to was out
> of
On Wed, 2020-09-02 at 14:45 -0400, Dan Langille wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Ian Lepore wrote:
>
> > Seriously, Warner?
>
> Yes, seriously. We are adults. Act accordingly.
>
> Don't be confused. I also thought the message he was replying to was out of
> line.
>
> > I applaud Stev
On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 12:36 PM Ian Lepore wrote:
> On Wed, 2020-09-02 at 11:11 -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 10:47 AM Steve Kargl <
> > s...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 12:14:08PM -0400, Ed Maste wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 2 Sep 2020
On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Ian Lepore wrote:
> Seriously, Warner?
Yes, seriously. We are adults. Act accordingly.
Don't be confused. I also thought the message he was replying to was out of
line.
> I applaud Steve's message as being the first one in this thread that
> has any real value
On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 11:11:50AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 10:47 AM Steve Kargl <
> s...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote:
>
> This is an insultingly stupid comment to make. We don't need people to say
> the obvious.
>
> This sort of comment isn't helpful. People wil
On Wed, 2020-09-02 at 11:11 -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 10:47 AM Steve Kargl <
> s...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 12:14:08PM -0400, Ed Maste wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 02:31, Steve Kargl
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > A short
On 2020-09-02 12:47, Steve Kargl wrote:
Checking out /usr/src as u...@freebsd.org
svn checkout svn+ssh://u...@svn.freebsd.org/base/head /usr/src
git ...
Checking out /usr/src without freebsd.org account
svn checkout https://svn.freebsd.org/base/head ${HOME}/freebsd/src
git ...
On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 10:47 AM Steve Kargl <
s...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 12:14:08PM -0400, Ed Maste wrote:
> > On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 02:31, Steve Kargl
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > A short intro on git for svn users:
> > > > https://hackmd.io/ML5TSl8mQ5-27B5eq
On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 12:14:08PM -0400, Ed Maste wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 02:31, Steve Kargl
> wrote:
> >
> > > A short intro on git for svn users:
> > > https://hackmd.io/ML5TSl8mQ5-27B5eqDf7YA?view
> > >
> >
> > ROTFL. From the "short intro", 2nd sentence.
> >
> > New committers are ass
> On Sep 2, 2020, at 10:14 AM, Ed Maste wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 02:31, Steve Kargl
> wrote:
>>
>>> A short intro on git for svn users:
>>> https://hackmd.io/ML5TSl8mQ5-27B5eqDf7YA?view
>>>
>>
>> ROTFL. From the "short intro", 2nd sentence.
>>
>> New committers are assumed to alr
> On Sep 1, 2020, at 10:59 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, 1 September 2020 at 13:14:10 -0400, Ed Maste wrote:
>> We've been updating the svn-git converter and pushing out a new
>> converted repo every two weeks, and are now approaching the time where
>> we'd like to commit to t
On 2 Sep 2020, at 17:18, Ed Maste wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 07:51, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
>>
>>> Git also supports sha-256 soon now, adoption should
>>> be researched from various online article series and
>>> work product before committing plans...
>>> https://lwn.net/Articles/823352/
>>
On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 02:31, Steve Kargl
wrote:
>
> > A short intro on git for svn users:
> > https://hackmd.io/ML5TSl8mQ5-27B5eqDf7YA?view
> >
>
> ROTFL. From the "short intro", 2nd sentence.
>
> New committers are assumed to already be familiar with the basic
> operation of Git. If not, start
On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 07:51, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
>
> > Git also supports sha-256 soon now, adoption should
> > be researched from various online article series and
> > work product before committing plans...
> > https://lwn.net/Articles/823352/
> > https://git-scm.com/docs/hash-function-transiti
On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 01:20:22AM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
> The underlying initializing 'git init' commit hash must be
> signed by security officer key having sufficient human PGP-WoT.
>
> Git also supports sha-256 soon now, adoption should
> be researched from various online article series and
>
On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 08:01:17AM +0200, Kurt Jaeger wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > On Tuesday, 1 September 2020 at 13:14:10 -0400, Ed Maste wrote:
> > > We've been updating the svn-git converter and pushing out a new
> > > converted repo every two weeks, and are now approaching the time where
> > > we'd li
Hi!
> On Tuesday, 1 September 2020 at 13:14:10 -0400, Ed Maste wrote:
> > We've been updating the svn-git converter and pushing out a new
> > converted repo every two weeks, and are now approaching the time where
> > we'd like to commit to the tree generated by the exporter,
> > ...
>
> Somehow
The underlying initializing 'git init' commit hash must be
signed by security officer key having sufficient human PGP-WoT.
Git also supports sha-256 soon now, adoption should
be researched from various online article series and
work product before committing plans...
https://lwn.net/Articles/82335
On Tuesday, 1 September 2020 at 13:14:10 -0400, Ed Maste wrote:
> We've been updating the svn-git converter and pushing out a new
> converted repo every two weeks, and are now approaching the time where
> we'd like to commit to the tree generated by the exporter,
> ...
Somehow I've missed this de
72 matches
Mail list logo
