Re: Adjustments to userland for a quieter startup (RC system)

2025-02-03 Thread Sulev-Madis Silber
btw, has anyone tried to observe boot if you have like ~50 network interfaces? it's all useful debug but it's wall of text? but i would not change default i wouldn't change defaults for kernel too and our kernel has actually structured output this is not the case in eg linux kernel or even init

Re: Adjustments to userland for a quieter startup (RC system)

2025-02-03 Thread Walter Parker
The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. -- Justice Louis D. Brandeis On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 10:58 AM Warner Losh wrote: > Most systems have a pretty splash screen, but a very noisy actual text > screen if you get t

Re: Adjustments to userland for a quieter startup (RC system)

2025-02-03 Thread Maku Bex
Because they all follow the same concept. The startup text is useless in that stage of the OS. If i need it for troubleshooting, dmesg can provide it. IMHO, no text or no splash are irrelevant if they don't speed up the boot process. Until we find a way to deal with this, it all boils down to how t

Re: Adjustments to userland for a quieter startup (RC system)

2025-02-03 Thread Warner Losh
Most systems have a pretty splash screen, but a very noisy actual text screen if you get to it :) I'd be inclined to make that work if it has broken (it used to work great). Warner On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 11:10 AM Maku Bex wrote: > Remember that quiet/silent != fast. You might as well ask for a

Re: ZFS: Rescue FAULTED Pool

2025-02-03 Thread A FreeBSD User
Am Sat, 1 Feb 2025 09:10:25 -0500 Dennis Clarke schrieb: > >> > >> The most useful thing to share right now would be the output of `zpool > >> import` (with no pool name) on the rebooted system. > >> > >> That will show where the issues are, and suggest how they might be solved. > >> > > > > H

Re: Adjustments to userland for a quieter startup (RC system)

2025-02-03 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
On Sun, Feb 02, 2025 at 10:19:11AM +, Steven Harms (High-Security Mail) wrote: S> I also realize that this is a probably a controversial perspective. My motivation here is ultimately service to the FreeBSD Laptop project. Windows and OSX have conditioned many in the population of the FreeBSD

Re: Adjustments to userland for a quieter startup (RC system)

2025-02-03 Thread Maku Bex
Remember that quiet/silent != fast. You might as well ask for a "pretty" splash screen instead of the dizzying text scroll. On Mon, Feb 3, 2025, 12:05 Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > On Sun, Feb 02, 2025 at 10:19:11AM +, Steven Harms (High-Security > Mail) wrote: > S> I also realize that this is a pr

Re: Long time outdated jemalloc

2025-02-03 Thread Johan Hendriks
On 08/12/2024 18:41, Warner Losh wrote: Great! I'll take a look at that, as well as do the merge the typical way (which only takes a few minutes now that I've bootstrapped things). I'll compare the two to see what diffs there might be (to act as a cross check for both methods). I'll then build