Re: poudriere and the user ... is it mostly a lost idea?

2025-01-17 Thread Mark Millard
Paul Mather wrote on Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 19:35:32 UTC : On Jan 17, 2025, at 1:30 pm, Dennis Clarke wrote: > I have plenty of logs. Piles of them. Perhaps the problem is that I > am building on a 15-CURRENT machine which has poudriere jails like so : > > titan# poudriere jails -l > JAILNAME

Re: poudriere and the user ... is it mostly a lost idea?

2025-01-17 Thread Mark Millard
On Jan 17, 2025, at 10:30, Dennis Clarke wrote: > On 1/15/25 21:20, Mark Millard wrote: >> Dennis Clarke wrote on >> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2025 15:16:58 UTC : >>> Over the past month or so I see endless fails in builds for the big >>> three user facing window manager things. This means that a simple

Re: poudriere and the user ... is it mostly a lost idea?

2025-01-17 Thread Paul Mather
On Jan 17, 2025, at 1:30 pm, Dennis Clarke wrote: >I have plenty of logs. Piles of them. Perhaps the problem is that I > am building on a 15-CURRENT machine which has poudriere jails like so : > > titan# poudriere jails -l > JAILNAME VERSION ARCH METHOD TIMESTA

Re: FreeBSD on a Lenovo T400s, GUI suggestions needed

2025-01-17 Thread bob prohaska
On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 02:29:59AM +0800, Thor Ablestar wrote: > Hello! > > I have a park of Lenovos X61 Tablet and T61. They are predecessors of T400s. > I use XFCE4. > > You need 8 GB RAM for comfortable operation. Internet mentions that it's > possible. 4GB is too small. > That may be an impo

Re: poudriere and the user ... is it mostly a lost idea?

2025-01-17 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 1/15/25 21:20, Mark Millard wrote: Dennis Clarke wrote on Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2025 15:16:58 UTC : Over the past month or so I see endless fails in builds for the big three user facing window manager things. This means that a simple user type person can not get a desktop. Really? Yes really. F

Re: FreeBSD on a Lenovo T400s, GUI suggestions needed

2025-01-17 Thread Thor Ablestar
Hello! I have a park of Lenovos X61 Tablet and T61. They are predecessors of T400s. I use XFCE4. You need 8 GB RAM for comfortable operation. Internet mentions that it's possible. 4GB is too small. According to my experience the GUI problems usually lie in video driver and not the window m

Re: FreeBSD on a Lenovo T400s, GUI suggestions needed

2025-01-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
bob prohaska writes: > Can anybody suggest a suitable X11-wm to try on this quite > elderly laptop? LXQT failed with a core dump, next I'll try > twm while hoping for a better suggestion. ctwm ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/I

FreeBSD on a Lenovo T400s, GUI suggestions needed

2025-01-17 Thread bob prohaska
I've started playing with an old Lenovo T400s laptop using FreeBSD-current. The initial install worked perfectly on an external USB drive. Can anybody suggest a suitable X11-wm to try on this quite elderly laptop? LXQT failed with a core dump, next I'll try twm while hoping for a better suggestion