rm /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/lib/libc/libc.a

2019-02-19 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi current@ Has anyone else in the last few months needed to do: rm /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/lib/libc/libc.a My generic make buildworld & make installworld seem to usually succeed, but after I've then run my own normal customise /usr/src (which I've been running about 20 years n

Re: What is evdev and autoloading?

2019-02-19 Thread Cy Schubert
On February 19, 2019 9:35:54 AM PST, Steve Kargl wrote: >On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 08:17:48AM -0800, Cy Schubert wrote: >> On February 18, 2019 9:17:37 AM PST, Pete Wright > wrote: >> > >> > >> >On 2/18/19 8:50 AM, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 9:12 AM Rodney W. Grimes < >>

Re: What is evdev and autoloading?

2019-02-19 Thread Steve Kargl
On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 06:59:26PM +, Johannes Lundberg wrote: > > On 2/19/19 5:35 PM, Steve Kargl wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 08:17:48AM -0800, Cy Schubert wrote: >>> >>> Drm2 is not required. My current laptop is 5 years old, an HD3000. The >>> previous one is 13 years old, i915. Both

Re: What is evdev and autoloading?

2019-02-19 Thread Johannes Lundberg
On 2/19/19 5:35 PM, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 08:17:48AM -0800, Cy Schubert wrote: >> On February 18, 2019 9:17:37 AM PST, Pete Wright wrote: >>> >>> On 2/18/19 8:50 AM, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 9:12 AM Rodney W. Grimes < > > I don't know. I

Re: What is evdev and autoloading?

2019-02-19 Thread Steve Kargl
On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 08:17:48AM -0800, Cy Schubert wrote: > On February 18, 2019 9:17:37 AM PST, Pete Wright wrote: > > > > > >On 2/18/19 8:50 AM, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > >>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 9:12 AM Rodney W. Grimes < > >>> > >>> I don't know. I think the fact that drm2 doesn't suppor

Re: What is evdev and autoloading?

2019-02-19 Thread Cy Schubert
On February 18, 2019 9:17:37 AM PST, Pete Wright wrote: > > >On 2/18/19 8:50 AM, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 9:12 AM Rodney W. Grimes < >>> >>> I don't know. I think the fact that drm2 doesn't support anything >newer >>> than 5-year-old hardware is a pretty convincing evide

Re: What is evdev and autoloading?

2019-02-19 Thread Mark Linimon
On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 06:25:32AM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > We are certainly driving users away by our operation model If you want to help take up more support duties -- especially for aging hardware -- I doubt anyone would stop you. There is plenty of work to take up; just check Bugzilla

Re: What is evdev and autoloading?

2019-02-19 Thread Emmanuel Vadot
On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 06:25:32 -0800 (PST) "Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: > > > On 19 Feb 2019, at 09.15, Oleksandr Tymoshenko wrote: > > > > > > Michael Gmelin (gre...@freebsd.org) wrote: > > >> > > >> > > On 18. Feb 2019, at 23:54, Mark Linimon wrote: > > > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2019

Re: What is evdev and autoloading?

2019-02-19 Thread Warner Losh
On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 8:17 AM Rodney W. Grimes < freebsd-...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > > On 19 Feb 2019, at 09.15, Oleksandr Tymoshenko > wrote: > > > > > > Michael Gmelin (gre...@freebsd.org) wrote: > > >> > > >> > > On 18. Feb 2019, at 23:54, Mark Linimon > wrote: > > > >

Re: What is evdev and autoloading?

2019-02-19 Thread Bernd Walter
On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 01:43:22PM +0100, Niclas Zeising wrote: > On 2/18/19 12:06 PM, Stefan Blachmann wrote: > >On 2/18/19, Vladimir Kondratyev wrote: > >>On 2019-02-17 21:03, Steve Kargl wrote: > >>>Anyone have insight into what evdev is? > >>evdev.ko is a small in-kernel library that makes all

Re: What is evdev and autoloading?

2019-02-19 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> > On 19 Feb 2019, at 09.15, Oleksandr Tymoshenko wrote: > > > > Michael Gmelin (gre...@freebsd.org) wrote: > >> > >> > On 18. Feb 2019, at 23:54, Mark Linimon wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 08:50:27AM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > I think one serious problem here

Re: libunwind: decodeEHHdr

2019-02-19 Thread Masachika ISHIZUKA
> On 13.0-CURRENT r344253, many applications can not run with the error > message as follows. > > okra.ish.org[101]_% firefox > libunwind: decodeEHHdr > /usr/altlocal/freebsd-current/src/contrib/llvm/projects/libunwind/src/EHHeaderParser.hpp:62 > - Unsupported .eh_frame_hdr version > Redirecti

libunwind: decodeEHHdr

2019-02-19 Thread Masachika ISHIZUKA
On 13.0-CURRENT r344253, many applications can not run with the error message as follows. okra.ish.org[101]_% firefox libunwind: decodeEHHdr /usr/altlocal/freebsd-current/src/contrib/llvm/projects/libunwind/src/EHHeaderParser.hpp:62 - Unsupported .eh_frame_hdr version Redirecting call to abort

Re: What is evdev and autoloading?

2019-02-19 Thread Daniel Ebdrup
> On 19 Feb 2019, at 09.15, Oleksandr Tymoshenko wrote: > > Michael Gmelin (gre...@freebsd.org) wrote: >> >> On 18. Feb 2019, at 23:54, Mark Linimon wrote: On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 08:50:27AM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: I think one serious problem here is the summary di

Re: What is evdev and autoloading?

2019-02-19 Thread Johannes Lundberg
On 2/18/19 10:54 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 08:50:27AM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >> I think one serious problem here is the summary dismissal of things >> simply on the "5 year old" basis. > IIUC the graphics changes are being forced upon FreeBSD by external > projects

Re: What is evdev and autoloading?

2019-02-19 Thread Oleksandr Tymoshenko
Michael Gmelin (gre...@freebsd.org) wrote: > > > > On 18. Feb 2019, at 23:54, Mark Linimon wrote: > > > >> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 08:50:27AM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > >> I think one serious problem here is the summary dismissal of things > >> simply on the "5 year old" basis. > > > > I

Re: What is evdev and autoloading?

2019-02-19 Thread Johannes Lundberg
On 2/19/19 12:37 AM, Warner Losh wrote: > On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 9:50 AM Steve Kargl < > s...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 09:11:14AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: >>> You do know these constant complaints about people trying to make things >>> better is demorali