Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-17 Thread Mike Smith
> : >You can also short IOCHK to ground to get an NMI which kicks you into > : >the debugger, even in an interrupt context. > : > : Bad news for you warner: On a too large sample of my newer > : motherboards this doesn't work anymore :-( > > There's also a pci signal that you can either pull up

missing interrupts (was Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...)

2000-11-17 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Valentin Chopov writes: > Hi, > > After last cvsup my machine (Dual PIII, SMP kernel) is freezing again in > 10 min after boot... > I've seen one similar problem on an alpha UP1000 that I'd like some input about. The UP1000 is essentially an alpha 21264 stuffed into an AMD Athlon system.

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-17 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Warner Losh writes: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sheldon Hearn writes: > : The problem with a hard lock-up out of which you can't escape into the > : debugger is that it makes meaningful bug reports impossible. My non-SMP > : workstation has exhibited apparently arbitrary lock-ups since

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 12:55:28PM +0100, Soren Schmidt wrote: > > I thought I was the only one, since my question on the freebsd-current > > mailing list went unanswered. > > You are _not_ alone, there has been numerous complains about this > on the list, but so far they have not been taken ser

Re: kern/22838: if_tap and linprocfs modules are brokern in -current

2000-11-17 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > when i try to kldload if_tap module, the kernel says "symbol lminor > undefined" and fails to load the module. for linprocfs module the > message is "symbol tsleep undefined". these modules are necessary > for VMWare 2.0 port. Your modules are out of synch with your ke

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Re: RQ review: [was: Re: "make modules" kicks the first module d

2000-11-17 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 02:06:44PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > > I committed something simular. BTW, you made ``make depend'' a > > requirement, which we did not have agreement on. > > Erm: > > config -g LAPTOP > Don't forget to do a ``make depend'' > Kernel build directory is ../../compile/LAP

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-17 Thread John Baldwin
On 17-Nov-00 Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > > On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 10:30:02 PST, John Baldwin wrote: > >> # sysctl -w debug.ktr_verbose=1 ; command_that_makes_my_machine_go_boom > > All very well and good once you've figured out which command makes your > machine go boom. Yes, I know. I didn't say

Re: RQ review: [was: Re: "make modules" kicks the first module d

2000-11-17 Thread John Baldwin
On 17-Nov-00 David O'Brien wrote: > On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 10:55:32PM +0900, Makoto MATSUSHITA wrote: >> Attached below is a patch which I've made before. If nothing is going >> wrong, please commit this change > > I committed something simular. BTW, you made ``make depend'' a > requiremen

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-17 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 10:30:02 PST, John Baldwin wrote: > # sysctl -w debug.ktr_verbose=1 ; command_that_makes_my_machine_go_boom All very well and good once you've figured out which command makes your machine go boom. But as I said, the locks I'm getting appear completely arbitrary. I'm no ha

Re: RQ review: [was: Re: "make modules" kicks the first module directory twice]

2000-11-17 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 10:55:32PM +0900, Makoto MATSUSHITA wrote: > Attached below is a patch which I've made before. If nothing is going > wrong, please commit this change I committed something simular. BTW, you made ``make depend'' a requirement, which we did not have agreement on. To

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-17 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 11:26:02AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sheldon Hearn writes: > : The problem with a hard lock-up out of which you can't escape into the > : debugger is that it makes meaningful bug reports impossible. My non-SMP > : workstation has exhibited

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-17 Thread Warner Losh
In message <25636.974487067@critter> Poul-Henning Kamp writes: : In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Warner Losh writes: : >In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sheldon Hearn writes: : >: The problem with a hard lock-up out of which you can't escape into the : >: debugger is that it makes meaningful bug rep

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Warner Losh writes: >In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sheldon Hearn writes: >: The problem with a hard lock-up out of which you can't escape into the >: debugger is that it makes meaningful bug reports impossible. My non-SMP >: workstation has exhibited apparently ar

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-17 Thread John Baldwin
On 17-Nov-00 Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > > On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:42:51 PST, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > >> I would try a new kernel, and perhaps some collabaration with John >> to debug these problems rather than just complaining about the >> situation. I see at least two experianced developers i

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-17 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sheldon Hearn writes: : The problem with a hard lock-up out of which you can't escape into the : debugger is that it makes meaningful bug reports impossible. My non-SMP : workstation has exhibited apparently arbitrary lock-ups since the advent : of SMPng. You can a

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2000-11-17 Thread Jake Burkholder
As usual, you'll have to recompile all libkvm using programs. Jake To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

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Re: RQ review: [was: Re: "make modules" kicks the first moduledirectory twice]

2000-11-17 Thread Makoto MATSUSHITA
obrien> [its easier to read patches when they aren't quoted in their entirety ;-)] Attached below is a patch which I've made before. If nothing is going wrong, please commit this change current.jp.FreeBSD.org which employs 'make -j' option have missed -current release since the beginning of

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-17 Thread Michael Harnois
On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:55:28 +0100 (CET), Soren Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > It doesn't help here at least, the machine(s) just lock up solid > only reset or a powercycle can bring them back... Same here ... as others noted, started with SMPng ... -- Michael D. Harnois, Redeemer

Re: Proper permissons on /tmp

2000-11-17 Thread Vallo Kallaste
On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 01:52:27PM +0200, Sheldon Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have a similar problem -- every time I make world, perms on /var/mail > > get set to 775. Mutt considers my mailbox read-only until I change it > > to 1777. Is there a supported way to locally override BSD.

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-17 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > I would try a new kernel, and perhaps some collabaration with John > > to debug these problems rather than just complaining about the > > situation. I see at least two experianced developers in the CC > > list, there's no reason for these poor bug reports. > > T

Re: Proper permissons on /tmp

2000-11-17 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 15:18:09 GMT, void wrote: > I have a similar problem -- every time I make world, perms on /var/mail > get set to 775. Mutt considers my mailbox read-only until I change it > to 1777. Is there a supported way to locally override BSD.var.dist, or > do I need to install mutt

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-17 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:42:51 PST, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > I would try a new kernel, and perhaps some collabaration with John > to debug these problems rather than just complaining about the > situation. I see at least two experianced developers in the CC > list, there's no reason for these p

Re: Proper permissons on /tmp

2000-11-17 Thread Vallo Kallaste
On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 03:18:09PM +, void <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a similar problem -- every time I make world, perms on /var/mail > get set to 775. Mutt considers my mailbox read-only until I change it > to 1777. Is there a supported way to locally override BSD.var.dist, or >

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Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-17 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Michael C . Wu wrote: > I had those problems too a while ago on a UP p3-650 laptop. Finally I just > newfs'ed the machine and installed the 20001028 snapshot, then cvsupp'ed > to 20001122. The laptop now works well. What I saw was processes > forking and forking again until the machine