>
> Hm. But I'd think that even with modern drives a smaller number of bigger
> I/Os is preferable over lots of very small I/Os.
Not necessarily. It depends upon overhead costs per-i/o. With larger I/Os, you
do pay in interference costs (you can't transfer data for request N because
the 256Kbyte
On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 08:21:52PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alfred Perlstein writes:
>
> >Keeping the currect cluster code is a bad idea, if the drivers were
> >taught how to traverse the linked list in the buf struct rather
> >than just notice "a big buff
I have a followup fsck listing related to the above issue.
Basically, it only seems to happen with my cvsup area(s). I don't know
why this is, but cvsup craps out with 'can't create directory' and I find
that a directory is now a file, with heaps of errors on the disk.
I have attached a read-
On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 07:52:18AM +0100, Thierry.herbelot wrote:
> Joe Abley wrote:
> >
> > Problem report booting 4.0-RELEASE follows.
> >
> I had the exact same error message trying to boot from a floppy where I
> had tried to dd the full boot.flp (2,8 Megs is just too much for a
> normal flo
After upgrading from 4.0-current (09.03) to 5.0-current(16.03,17.03) i've
got subj. Machine panics and reboots. And i was not always near
it. Finally i traced it:
Fatal 12 trap: page fault while in kernel mode
fault virtual address = 0x8
fault code = supervisor read, page not pres
Joe Abley wrote:
>
> Problem report booting 4.0-RELEASE follows.
>
> /boot.config: -P
> Keyboard: yes
>
> BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01
> Console: internal video/keyboard
> BIOS drive A: is disk0
> BIOS drive C: is disk1
> BIOS 639kB/56256kB available memory
>
> FreeBSD/
Problem report booting 4.0-RELEASE follows.
/boot.config: -P
Keyboard: yes
BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01
Console: internal video/keyboard
BIOS drive A: is disk0
BIOS drive C: is disk1
BIOS 639kB/56256kB available memory
FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.7
([EMAI
* From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Where did the compat3x install files go in the latest 4.0-STABLE
* snapshot? They seem to be missing.
That was actually a 3.4-STABLE snapshot that ended up in a directory
with a wrong name. Jordan fixed it (and deleted the offending
snapsh
> I agree that it is obvious for NFS, but I don't see it as being
> obvious at all for (modern) disks, so for that case I would like
> to see numbers.
>
> If running without clustering is just as fast for modern disks,
> I think the clustering needs rethought.
I think it should be pretty obvious
Where did the compat3x install files go in the latest 4.0-STABLE
snapshot? They seem to be missing.
Tom Veldhouse
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A couple of clarifications on the last message:
> Thus, when you see it printed as 0, somewhere between the test and the
> printf the controller has updated the flag and indicated it's busy.
That should of course be "not busy".
> I'd be guessing that the current loop (100k iterations) is pro
I have a BookPC with a built in Davi Comm 10/100 ethernet card.
I am always getting
/kernel: dc0: watchdog timeout
every few minutes..
Can thease errors be stopped?
Thank you for any reply
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> On Saturday, 18 March 2000 at 3:34:38 +0100, Palle Girgensohn wrote:
> > Hi!
>
> Please don't send messages one line per paragraph. It's a pain to
> reformat.
Yeah, I had had fiddled with the setti
Hi,
The controller is new. Dell calls it a Perc2/dc and it has 128Meg
of memory installed in it. I'm not sitting infront of the
machine right now. More detailed information is available
when the machines is booted and you enter the bios setup
on the adapter card.
> >We have a system with
On 20-Mar-00 Dan Moschuk wrote:
> | How current is this? Will it work against 4.0-STABLE?
> I haven't tested it, but I believe so.
I applied the patch to a machine which is *just* pre 4/5 split and it patched
fine.
I used it to get my ALS120 to work.
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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alfred Perlstein writes:
>* Poul-Henning Kamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000320 11:45] wrote:
>> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alfred Perlstein writes:
>>
>> >Keeping the currect cluster code is a bad idea, if the drivers were
>> >taught how to traverse the linked list
>>Committing a 64k block would require 8 times the overhead of bundling
>>up the RPC as well as transmission and reply, it may be possible
>>to pipeline these commits because you don't really need to wait
>>for one to complete before issueing another request, but it's still
>>8x the amount of traf
>The controller is new. Dell calls it a Perc2/dc and it has 128Meg
> of memory installed in it. I'm not sitting infront of the
> machine right now. More detailed information is available
> when the machines is booted and you enter the bios setup
> on the adapter card.
Ok. From some rumours c
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Daniel C. Sobral" writes:
: make buildworld
: make buildkernel
: make installkernel
: MAKEDEV
: reboot single user
: make -DNOINFO installworld
: make installworld
:
: As you see, the new klds don't get installed in the presently documented
: procedure. I have read
On Monday, March 20, 2000, Jason wrote:
> Should /etc/rc.firewall be changed to read:
>
> # Suck in the configuration variables.
> if [ -r /etc/defaults/rc.conf ]; then
> . /etc/defaults/rc.conf
> fi
> if [ -r /etc/rc.conf ]; then
> . /etc/rc.co
Alfred Perlstein wrote:
>
> Yowch, please wrap lines at 70 characters. :)
Oops! Sorry about that. I had fiddled with the settings for a
specific purpose, and forgot to set them back. :-/
> Read the loader page carefully and you should be able to boot 3.x
> kernels with 3.x modules and 4.0 modul
:>
:>I agree that it is obvious for NFS, but I don't see it as being
:>obvious at all for (modern) disks, so for that case I would like
:>to see numbers.
:>
:>If running without clustering is just as fast for modern disks,
:>I think the clustering needs rethought.
:
: Depends on the type of disk
> Hi.
Hi,
> This is kind of weird, so I want to see if anyone else has noticed
> this or has a solution to it.
>
> If I use telnet or ssh (there might be more programs,
> but I have only noticed these two so far), and supply a hostname to it,
> my machine is constantly requesting records,
>We have a system with a new AMI card in it controlling a pair
> of shelves from Dell (fbsd dated: 4.0-2313-SNAP).
>
>The relevant dmesg output is below: (complete dmesg at end)
>
> amr0: mem 0xf6c0-0xf6ff irq 14 at device 10.1 on pci2
> amr0: firmware 1.01 bios 1p00 128MB
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matthew Dillon writes:
>I think the biggest win in regards to being able to arbitrarily stack
>devices is to NOT attempt to forward struct buf's between devices when
>non-trivial manipulation is required, and instead to make struct buf's
>cheap enoug
In the last episode (Mar 20), Poul-Henning Kamp said:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alfred Perlstein writes:
> >* Poul-Henning Kamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000320 11:45] wrote:
> >>
> >> Before we redesign the clustering, I would like to know if we
> >> actually have any recent benchmarks which
:
:* Poul-Henning Kamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000320 12:03] wrote:
:> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alfred Perlstein writes:
:> >* Poul-Henning Kamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000320 11:45] wrote:
:> >> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alfred Perlstein writes:
:> >>
:> >> >Keeping the currect cluster c
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Julian
Elischer writes:
: you can also look at the pccard.conf file in /etc
: and rename it to make sio2 if you want.
That isn't guaranteed to work. Like you note later in your note, if
sio2 is already in the kernel, you won't be able to attach it on
pccard.
The
> In my 4.0 cvsupped from 3/20 /etc/rc.firewall says this:
>
> # Suck in the configuration variables.
> if [ -r /etc/defaults/rc.conf ]; then
> . /etc/defaults/rc.conf
> elif [ -r /etc/rc.conf ]; then
> . /etc/rc.conf
> fi
>
> which would be fi
In my 4.0 cvsupped from 3/20 /etc/rc.firewall says this:
# Suck in the configuration variables.
if [ -r /etc/defaults/rc.conf ]; then
. /etc/defaults/rc.conf
elif [ -r /etc/rc.conf ]; then
. /etc/rc.conf
fi
which would be fine, but
Just as a perhaps interesting aside on this topic; it'd be quite
neat for controllers that understand scatter/gather to be able to
simply suck N regions of buffer cache which were due for committing
directly into an S/G list...
(wishlist item, I guess 8)
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David O'Brien wrote/schrieb (Saturday, March 18, 2000):
| On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 03:18:45AM +0100, Thomas Köllmann wrote:
| > | Perhaps this is a bit off topic, but can the pentium optimisations be
| > | used for AMD K6 processors?
| >
| > I did a `make world' yesterday with
| > CFLAGS
Help!
I am trying to use more than 4 gif devices for ipv6.
i have set the appropiate values in config.h but still
only can configure gif0 - gif3.
Any help appreciated.
Please respond OFF-List !
Jan
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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Palle Girgensohn writes:
: It in docs/17518 now.
Thanks!
Warner
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Alfred Perlstein wrote:
>
> * Poul-Henning Kamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000320 11:45] wrote:
> > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alfred Perlstein writes:
> >
> > >Keeping the currect cluster code is a bad idea, if the drivers were
> > >taught how to traverse the linked list in the buf struct rather
Warner Losh wrote:
>
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Daniel C. Sobral" writes:
> : make buildworld
> : make buildkernel
> : make installkernel
> : MAKEDEV
> : reboot single user
> : make -DNOINFO installworld
> : make installworld
> :
> : As you see, the new klds don't get installed in the pres
:> lock on the bp. With a shared lock you are allowed to issue READ
:> I/O but you are not allowed to modify the contents of the buffer.
:> With an exclusive lock you are allowed to issue both READ and WRITE
:> I/O and you can modify the contents of the buffer.
:>
:> b
In message <007001bf9287$13b78de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Tim Ryder" writes:
: My pcmcia modem seems to show up as sio4 which does not exist on my system.
You have two choices.
First, is to cd /dev and do a
MAKEDEV ttyd4 cua4
which will make it possible to use the modem as /dev/ttyd4 and
* Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000320 14:18] wrote:
>
> :>lock on the bp. With a shared lock you are allowed to issue READ
> :>I/O but you are not allowed to modify the contents of the buffer.
> :>With an exclusive lock you are allowed to issue both READ and WRITE
> :>I/O
| > http://www.freebsd.org/~cg/current.diff.gz contains a partial emu10k1
| > driver (minus recording) which is need of debugging. Give it a try!
|
| How current is this? Will it work against 4.0-STABLE?
I haven't tested it, but I believe so.
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:
:In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matthew Dillon writes:
:
:>Well, let me tell you what the fuzzy goal is first and then maybe we
:>can work backwards.
:>
:>Eventually all physical I/O needs a physical address. The quickest
:>way to get to a physical address is to be given an ar
I can varify this on 4.0-STABLE as of March 19, ports cvsup the same time.
I had a look at it, and though I'm not much of a programmer, I cant see
where the parse error is.. maybe I'm blind.
Matt
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I think the biggest win in regards to being able to arbitrarily stack
devices is to NOT attempt to forward struct buf's between devices when
non-trivial manipulation is required, and instead to make struct buf's
cheap enough that a device can simply allocate a new one and copy the
Hello,
i've tried to build XFree86 4.0 on my 5.0-CURRENT and 4.0-RELEASE box, and encountered
a problem.
"make all" finishes successfully, but "make install" fails with the
following error message:
making all in programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bsd...
rm -f bsd_mouse.o
cc -c -O -pipe -an
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alfred Perlstein writes:
>> >> Before we redesign the clustering, I would like to know if we
>> >> actually have any recent benchmarks which prove that clustering
>> >> is overall beneficial ?
>> >
>> >Yes it is really benificial.
>>
>> I would like to see some nu
> On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:02:21 -0800
> Chris Piazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> According to Mr. Stevens (Unix Network Programing Vol 1
> chapt 9.4) this option, or having the env. variable RES_OPTIONS=inet6 set
> will cause the behavior you are describing...
It's a behavior of ge
* Poul-Henning Kamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000320 12:03] wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alfred Perlstein writes:
> >* Poul-Henning Kamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000320 11:45] wrote:
> >> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alfred Perlstein writes:
> >>
> >> >Keeping the currect cluster code is a
Nick Johnson wrote:
>
> I'm curious to see if anyone is like-minded with me that syslogd_flags in
> /etc/defaults/rc.conf should be "-ss" instead of "". I reasoned that it
> should be, considering:
>
> 1. Most people don't direct syslogs at other machines in my experience.
While I a
Greg Lehey wrote:
>
> > Following the instructions in UPDATING, when rebooting to single
> > user mode, vinum wouldn't work since the kernel module was out of
> > date - no surprise.
>
> Hmm. After updating, you should have had new klds as well. But
> that's probably not your fault. Could you
< said:
[Quoting my original description of icmp_input()'s behavior:]
>> The ICMP never passes certain packets up to raw listeners. These
>> include ECHO REQUEST, TIMESTAMP REQUEST, and SUBNET MASK REQUEST
>> packets -- but not the corresponding replies! So, when you ping the
>> local machine,
On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 11:33:24AM -0600, Visigoth wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, Chris Piazza wrote:
>
> > If I use telnet or ssh (there might be more programs,
> > but I have only noticed these two so far), and supply a hostname to it,
> > my machine is constantly requesting records,
>
> Cam's boredom out-weighed my initiative. 8)
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/~cg/current.diff.gz contains a partial emu10k1
> driver (minus recording) which is need of debugging. Give it a try!
How current is this? Will it work against 4.0-STABLE?
Tom Veldhouse
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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alfred Perlstein writes:
>* Poul-Henning Kamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000320 11:45] wrote:
>> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alfred Perlstein writes:
>>
>> >Keeping the currect cluster code is a bad idea, if the drivers were
>> >taught how to traverse the linked list
* Poul-Henning Kamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000320 11:45] wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alfred Perlstein writes:
>
> >Keeping the currect cluster code is a bad idea, if the drivers were
> >taught how to traverse the linked list in the buf struct rather
> >than just notice "a big buffer" w
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alfred Perlstein writes:
>Keeping the currect cluster code is a bad idea, if the drivers were
>taught how to traverse the linked list in the buf struct rather
>than just notice "a big buffer" we could avoid a lot of page
>twiddling and also allow for massive IO clu
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matthew Dillon writes:
>Well, let me tell you what the fuzzy goal is first and then maybe we
>can work backwards.
>
>Eventually all physical I/O needs a physical address. The quickest
>way to get to a physical address is to be given an array of vm_
< said:
> I think so. I can give -current a quick synopsis of the plan but I've
> probably forgotten some of the bits (note: the points below are not
> in any particular order):
Cool! Sounds like you've really done a lot of work to clean up one of
the darkest corners of the kernel.
Garrett Wollman writes:
> > When the program is run, if you ping the IP address from the
> > local machine, it sees packets. However, if you ping it from
> > a remote machine, it doesn't see packets.
>
> The ICMP never passes certain packets up to raw listeners. These
> include ECHO REQUEST, TI
Don Lewis writes:
> } * Archie Cobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000317 17:55] wrote:
> } > This bug has been around since at least 2.2.6 and is still present
> } > in RELENG_3, RELENG_4, and -current.
> } >
> } > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=8324
> } >
> } > Is anyone planning to tackl
Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote:
>
> I already addressed that in new-bus and there is some discussion and
> finding out the best way to do a higher level wrapping for a lot of
> newbus' stuff.
Is there? Where? I don't recall seeing that in any of the newbus mailing
lists I (used to) subscrib
* Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000320 10:01] wrote:
>
> :
> :
> :>Kirk and I have already mapped out a plan to drastically update
> :>the buffer cache API which will encapsulate much of the state within
> :>the buffer cache module.
> :
> :Sounds good. Combined with my stackabl
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On Saturday, 18 March 2000 at 3:34:38 +0100, Palle Girgensohn wrote:
> Hi!
Please don't send messages one line per paragraph. It's a pain to
reformat.
> I'm having troubles updating a FreeBSD 3-stable system to current,
> si
:Thanks for the sketch. It sounds really good.
:
:Is it your intention that drivers which cannot work from the b_pages[]
:array will call to map them into VM, or will a flag on the driver/dev_t/
:whatever tell the generic code that it should be mapped before calling
:the driver ?
:
:What about un
| | I would love to help out, but I don't know where to start, and I have no
| | kernel programming experience. There are reference drivers available for
| | linux via http://opensource.creative.com or http://www.alsa-project.org
| | (my preference).
|
| One is on the way...
Cam's boredom out-
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matthew Dillon writes:
>I think so. I can give -current a quick synopsis of the plan but I've
>probably forgotten some of the bits (note: the points below are not
>in any particular order):
Thanks for the sketch. It sounds really good.
Is it your in
I'm curious to see if anyone is like-minded with me that syslogd_flags in
/etc/defaults/rc.conf should be "-ss" instead of "". I reasoned that it
should be, considering:
1. Most people don't direct syslogs at other machines in my experience.
2. Someone could conceivably DOS a machine by dire
David O'Brien wrote:
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 11:48:02AM +0100, Jose M. Alcaide wrote:
> > Now, a week after the discussion, what do you think about my proposal
> > of the "g77" link under /usr/bin?
>
> What part about "NO" was unclear?
>
Hey, OK, don't get upset! :-) You are the maintainer
:
:
:>Kirk and I have already mapped out a plan to drastically update
:>the buffer cache API which will encapsulate much of the state within
:>the buffer cache module.
:
:Sounds good. Combined with my stackable BIO plans that sounds like
:a really great win for FreeBSD.
:
:--
:Poul-H
On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, Chris Piazza wrote:
> If I use telnet or ssh (there might be more programs,
> but I have only noticed these two so far), and supply a hostname to it,
> my machine is constantly requesting records, and finally after
> 75 seconds it requests and receives an A record from
you don't
it IS sio4
you need to make /dev/ entried for sio4
and they should work. sio4 has been created in the kernel dynamically by
the pcmcia code.
you can also look at the pccard.conf file in /etc
and rename it to make sio2 if you want.
however in that case you'd have to make sure that sio2 is
Also how do i compile sio4 into my kernel
tim ryder
-Original Message-
From: Tim Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, March 20, 2000 11:12 AM
Subject: PCMCIA Maker Modem
>My pcmcia modem seems to show up as sio4 which does not exist on my sy
My pcmcia modem seems to show up as sio4 which does not exist on my system.
It is a:
pcmcia maker modem 56k v.90 datafax modem
does any have the settings for this modem
i use a sony vaio PCG_V505VE
tim ryder
please cc me on this because i am not on the list
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Adherance to standards is always a goal for FreeBSD.
If you wish to try implement this change, then your patches would make a
good starting point for people to look and discuss.
(I say this because technically those parts of the kernel are not that
complex, but what is harder is finding people wi
On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 11:48:02AM +0100, Jose M. Alcaide wrote:
> Now, a week after the discussion, what do you think about my proposal
> of the "g77" link under /usr/bin?
What part about "NO" was unclear?
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I have found that in Single Unix Specification 2 in waitpid() function
there are allowed options not only WNOHANG and WUNTRACED as is in FreeBSD,
but furthermore option WCONTINUED (Unixware and Solaris both know about
this option and FreeBSD and possible Linux don't).
The next problem is in macr
-On [2319 21:00], Poul-Henning Kamp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter Wemm writes
>:
>>If you are using old drivers that haven't been newbusified yet, you will
>>need to add 'options COMPAT_OLDPCI' and/or 'options COMPAT_OLDISA' to your
>>kernel configs and rege
Hi David,
Now, a week after the discussion, what do you think about my proposal
of the "g77" link under /usr/bin? IMHO, the following facts are all good
reasons for creating the link:
- the output of "f77 -V", "f77 --version", "man f77", and "info g77";
- our Fortran compiler _is_ GNU Fortra
>Kirk and I have already mapped out a plan to drastically update
>the buffer cache API which will encapsulate much of the state within
>the buffer cache module.
Sounds good. Combined with my stackable BIO plans that sounds like
a really great win for FreeBSD.
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My latest world breakage involves makeinfo on gdb.info. I tried to dig
through the makefile maze to try and get just that bit not to build and
I can't sort it out. Error message below.
Doug
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it would be easier s
:I have two patches up for test at http://phk.freebsd.dk/misc
:
:I'm looking for reviews and tests, in particular vinum testing
:would be nice since Grog is quasi-offline at the moment.
:
:Poul-Henning
:
:2317 BWRITE-STRATEGY.patch
:
:This patch is machine generated except for the ccd
* Marc van Kempen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000320 00:58] wrote:
>
> >
> > You also ought to make sure the floppies can get through a complete
> > format before dd'ing the images over them.
> >
> This was it! I went through 8 floppies before I found a decent pair,
> these 3.5" things s*ck.
Another
>
> You also ought to make sure the floppies can get through a complete
> format before dd'ing the images over them.
>
This was it! I went through 8 floppies before I found a decent pair,
these 3.5" things s*ck.
Thanks,
Marc.
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