Re: Soft-updates feedback

1999-07-02 Thread Amancio Hasty
Make sure that you have dma enable on your IDE disks . Basically, soft-updates does short bursts of disk activities which can crash a disk or slow down a system during the disk i/o operations using PIO. Yes, I have seen disks spin mindlessly due to the "intensive" short burts of disk io activitie

mmap(), MAP_STACK, and safe addresses

1999-07-02 Thread Jason Evans
I need a clue about process memory layout, and am hoping someone can provide it. I wrote a program to discover what address ranges mmap() can handle (trying to hack growable stacks into libc_r), and came up with the following output (annotations in `[]'): FreeBSD donner 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD

Re: Soft-updates feedback

1999-07-02 Thread John Polstra
I don't know why I'm on the cc for this thread, but please remove me. And it shouldn't be cross-posted to 2 lists. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: Soft-updates feedback

1999-07-02 Thread Matthew Jacob
while this is happening, what does 'iostat 1' and 'vmstat 1' tell you? On Sat, 3 Jul 1999, Alex Povolotsky wrote: > About a week ago, I've posted a message here and didn't got positive replies. > > The problem is: > > when I use soft-updates on IDE disks (disk on primary master, disk on > sec

Re: Fixing other people's code (was: world broken in vinum (PATCH))

1999-07-02 Thread Matthew Jacob
> > > > > > If it's really blocking folks because things don't compile, it is always > > > acceptable to do what you need to do- the tree should always compile even > > > if -current. If the system doesn't boot because of change, then that's an > > > obvious one too. If things work differently or

Soft-updates feedback

1999-07-02 Thread Alex Povolotsky
About a week ago, I've posted a message here and didn't got positive replies. The problem is: when I use soft-updates on IDE disks (disk on primary master, disk on secondary master, CD on primary slave), any active disk-using program (starting Netscape, starting EXMH) causes all other programs

Re: Just for the record (was: Re: Fixing other people's code (was: world broken in vinum (PATCH)))

1999-07-02 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 2 July 1999 at 23:19:26 -0400, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > Sorry about that, Greg; I didn't realize it was a personal message I forwarded. > Sorry, everyone else, for that faux pas in public :( I'm not upset. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger

Re: Just for the record (was: Re: Fixing other people's code (was:world broken in vinum (PATCH)))

1999-07-02 Thread Brian F. Feldman
Sorry about that, Greg; I didn't realize it was a personal message I forwarded. Sorry, everyone else, for that faux pas in public :( Brian Fundakowski Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve!_

Just for the record (was: Re: Fixing other people's code (was: worldbroken in vinum (PATCH)))

1999-07-02 Thread Brian F. Feldman
For the record, I was correct in the code. Hey, I do have a reputation, albeit not yet much of one! Brian Fundakowski Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve!_ __ | _ \._ \ |) | http://

Re: Fixing other people's code (was: world broken in vinum (PATCH))

1999-07-02 Thread John Birrell
Greg Lehey wrote: > > Well, you asked! > > And you answered :-) > > So where were you at 3 am this morning? In a land far, far, far away. Then I woke up. 8-) -- John Birrell - [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001,

Re: Fixing other people's code (was: world broken in vinum (PATCH))

1999-07-02 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 3 July 1999 at 12:50:26 +1000, John Birrell wrote: > Greg Lehey wrote: >> I personally think that, in such a case, you'd be justified to commit >> it as a temporary measure. Due to the difference in time zones, this >> has hit people while I've been asleep. That doesn't mean the co

Re: Fixing other people's code (was: world broken in vinum (PATCH))

1999-07-02 Thread John Birrell
Greg Lehey wrote: > I personally think that, in such a case, you'd be justified to commit > it as a temporary measure. Due to the difference in time zones, this > has hit people while I've been asleep. That doesn't mean the commit > would stay, of course, but at least it would save people unnece

Re: Fixing other people's code (was: world broken in vinum (PATCH))

1999-07-02 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > Let me add to this: > > opinion: > > > > If it's really blocking folks because things don't compile, it is always > > acceptable to do what you need to do- the tree should always compile even > > if -current. If the system doesn't boot because of

Re: Fixing other people's code (was: world broken in vinum (PATCH))

1999-07-02 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > On Friday, 2 July 1999 at 15:26:35 -0400, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > > > On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > > > > > >> Here's the fix. I'm sure it's not absolutely the same as what Greg will have, > > >> but if anyone wants to commit it, it

Re: Fixing other people's code (was: world broken in vinum (PATCH))

1999-07-02 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Sat, 3 Jul 1999, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Friday, 2 July 1999 at 15:26:35 -0400, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > > On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > > > >> Here's the fix. I'm sure it's not absolutely the same as what Greg will have, > >> but if anyone wants to commit it, it will fix worl

Re: Fixing other people's code (was: world broken in vinum (PATCH))

1999-07-02 Thread Matthew Jacob
Let me add to this: > opinion: > > If it's really blocking folks because things don't compile, it is always > acceptable to do what you need to do- the tree should always compile even > if -current. If the system doesn't boot because of change, then that's an > obvious one too. If things work d

Re: Fixing other people's code (was: world broken in vinum (PATCH))

1999-07-02 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 2 July 1999 at 17:12:56 -0700, Matt Jacob wrote: >> On Friday, 2 July 1999 at 15:26:35 -0400, Brian F. Feldman wrote: >>> On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: >>> Here's the fix. I'm sure it's not absolutely the same as what Greg will have, but if anyone wants to comm

Re: Fixing other people's code (was: world broken in vinum (PATCH))

1999-07-02 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 3 July 1999 at 0:09:53 +, Ben Rosengart wrote: > On Sat, 3 Jul 1999, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> I personally think that, in such a case, you'd be justified to commit >> it as a temporary measure. Due to the difference in time zones, this >> has hit people while I've been asleep. T

Re: Fixing other people's code (was: world broken in vinum (PATCH))

1999-07-02 Thread Amancio Hasty
In this case where the module is actively being maintained people can afford to wait and an iterim bandage-type style email posting is sufficient . - Amancio's Latest mantra on his DSL line: Live Long and Prosperous !! > On Friday, 2 July 1999 at 15:26:35 -0400, Brian F. Feldman wro

Re: Fixing other people's code (was: world broken in vinum (PATCH))

1999-07-02 Thread Matthew Jacob
> On Friday, 2 July 1999 at 15:26:35 -0400, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > > On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > > > >> Here's the fix. I'm sure it's not absolutely the same as what Greg will have, > >> but if anyone wants to commit it, it will fix world. > > > > I know I _could_ commit it,

Re: Fixing other people's code (was: world broken in vinum (PATCH))

1999-07-02 Thread Ben Rosengart
On Sat, 3 Jul 1999, Greg Lehey wrote: > I personally think that, in such a case, you'd be justified to commit > it as a temporary measure. Due to the difference in time zones, this > has hit people while I've been asleep. That doesn't mean the commit > would stay, of course, but at least it wou

Re: Fixing other people's code (was: world broken in vinum (PATCH))

1999-07-02 Thread Mike Smith
> I personally think that, in such a case, you'd be justified to commit > it as a temporary measure. Due to the difference in time zones, this > has hit people while I've been asleep. That doesn't mean the commit > would stay, of course, but at least it would save people unnecessary > pain. Not

Fixing other people's code (was: world broken in vinum (PATCH))

1999-07-02 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 2 July 1999 at 15:26:35 -0400, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > >> Here's the fix. I'm sure it's not absolutely the same as what Greg will have, >> but if anyone wants to commit it, it will fix world. > > I know I _could_ commit it, but it's someo

Re: buildworld fails in sbin/vinum

1999-07-02 Thread Greg Lehey
[Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] On Friday, 2 July 1999 at 20:04:49 +0200, Johan Karlsson wrote: > Hi > When trying to build a newly updated world I get the following error, which I > belive was introduced in the latest commit by grog. > The case may be that v

Re: world broken in vinum (PATCH)

1999-07-02 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > Here's the fix. I'm sure it's not absolutely the same as what Greg will have, > but if anyone wants to commit it, it will fix world. > I know I _could_ commit it, but it's someone else's work that's being actively maintained. It still does break wor

world broken in vinum (PATCH)

1999-07-02 Thread Brian F. Feldman
Here's the fix. I'm sure it's not absolutely the same as what Greg will have, but if anyone wants to commit it, it will fix world. Brian Fundakowski Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve!_ _

Re: this of interest to anyone?

1999-07-02 Thread John Polstra
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, I just had a thought... and a question. When we are using > cvsup to keep a local CVS reposity in sync, can we tag our local > CVS resposity without cvsup deleting the tags? Yes, you can do it if you're

vinum stopping world build

1999-07-02 Thread Doug
I consistently get the following during a 'make world' on the most recent -current: ===> sbin/vinum cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/sbin/vinum/../../sys -g -Wall -DVINUMDEBUG -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/sbin/vinum/v.c /usr/src/sbin/vinum/v.c:263: `vinum_concat' undeclared here

buildworld fails in sbin/vinum

1999-07-02 Thread Johan Karlsson
Hi When trying to build a newly updated world I get the following error, which I belive was introduced in the latest commit by grog. The case may be that vext.h did not get commited. (eg. I think "extern int stats" should be "extern int sflag" now) /K ===> sbin/vinum cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/sbi

Re: this of interest to anyone?

1999-07-02 Thread Nick Hibma
Try booting kernel.old . It's supposed to be the previous kernel. If that does not work, I can send you one that does work, so you can at least compile a new kernel. Nick On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Alexander Langer wrote: > Thus spake Nick Hibma ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Hello again! > > > If you ar

Re: this of interest to anyone?

1999-07-02 Thread Nick Hibma
What makes you think that? > interesting. i thought this was a netscape issue. > > In reply: > > If you are still running current, please cvsup the newest sources. This > > problem has been solved in the past few days. It showed up on saturday > > evening after a commit on McKusick and most of

Re: this of interest to anyone?

1999-07-02 Thread Peter Wemm
Matthew Dillon wrote: > :This doesn't mean it's OK for committers to screw things up for fun, but > :we're only human. We do try and keep it in fairly good condition > :(remember, the developers depend on it working for development), but > :mistakes happen.. > : > :Cheers, > :-Peter > > Hey,

Re: this of interest to anyone?

1999-07-02 Thread Matthew Dillon
:This doesn't mean it's OK for committers to screw things up for fun, but :we're only human. We do try and keep it in fairly good condition :(remember, the developers depend on it working for development), but :mistakes happen.. : :Cheers, :-Peter Hey, I just had a thought... and a question.

Re: this of interest to anyone?

1999-07-02 Thread Tamiji Homma
> There might still be one or two remaining, but these should be very > infrequent. The panice happened during make world with two setiathome clients. Is this a new one or one known to be fixed? Thanks PS: June 30 kernel does not have this problem so far. Tammy Stack trace and dmesg follows:

Re: this of interest to anyone?

1999-07-02 Thread Peter Wemm
Mike Smith wrote: > > > > The kernel that made the problem is 2 days old. (From Wednesday). > > Actually, I even can´t compile a new kernel/world, cause it reboots and > > hangs all the time. > > Welcome to -current. Time to learn about keeping a working kernel > around at all times. I'll re

Re: this of interest to anyone?

1999-07-02 Thread Mike Smith
> > The kernel that made the problem is 2 days old. (From Wednesday). > Actually, I even can´t compile a new kernel/world, cause it reboots and > hangs all the time. Welcome to -current. Time to learn about keeping a working kernel around at all times. -- \\ The mind's the standard \

Re: this of interest to anyone?

1999-07-02 Thread Werner Griessl
On 02-Jul-99 Alexander Langer wrote: > Thus spake Nick Hibma ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Hello again! > >> If you are still running current, please cvsup the newest sources. This >> problem has been solved in the past few days. It showed up on saturday >> evening after a commit on McKusick and mos

Re: this of interest to anyone?

1999-07-02 Thread Alexander Langer
Thus spake Nick Hibma ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hello again! > If you are still running current, please cvsup the newest sources. This > problem has been solved in the past few days. It showed up on saturday > evening after a commit on McKusick and most of the problem area's have > been identified an

Stuck in "objtrm"

1999-07-02 Thread Stephen McKay
I have an old 486 here that I thrash to death occasionally. Well, at least I try to get it to page to death. I started a make world last week and forgot about it. Today I noticed that it's been stuck for most of the week. Almost everything is fine, but one cc1 process is stuck in "objtrm". Oh

Re: this of interest to anyone?

1999-07-02 Thread Jim Bryant
interesting. i thought this was a netscape issue. In reply: > If you are still running current, please cvsup the newest sources. This > problem has been solved in the past few days. It showed up on saturday > evening after a commit on McKusick and most of the problem area's have > been identifie

Re: this of interest to anyone?

1999-07-02 Thread Nick Hibma
If you are still running current, please cvsup the newest sources. This problem has been solved in the past few days. It showed up on saturday evening after a commit on McKusick and most of the problem area's have been identified and tracked down. There might still be one or two remaining, but t

Re: this of interest to anyone?

1999-07-02 Thread Werner Griessl
On 12-Aug-99 Alexander Langer wrote: > Thus spake Matthew Jacob ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > >> panic: lockmgr: pid 3344, not exclusive lock holder 3341 unlocking > > I got this very often the last days, too. > > Actually I try do downgrade to 3.2, because my machines reboots 3 > times a day because

Re: fetch(1) and realms with whitespace...

1999-07-02 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Dominic Mitchell wrote: > Is there any way to specify a realm with whitespace to fetch? I've > just had a fun time trying to do: > > % export HTTP_AUTH="basic:SunSolve Online:x:y" > % fetch -v http://online.sunsolve.sun.co.uk/whatever > senddoc: cannot authenticate with serv

Re: this of interest to anyone?

1999-07-02 Thread Alexander Langer
Thus spake Matthew Jacob ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > panic: lockmgr: pid 3344, not exclusive lock holder 3341 unlocking I got this very often the last days, too. Actually I try do downgrade to 3.2, because my machines reboots 3 times a day because of either this error or other things. -CURRENT actua

Re: Something weird happening w/ SMP -current

1999-07-02 Thread Alan Cox
Try the attached patch. If this doesn't work, I'll back out the last i386/isa/ipl_funcs.c change. Alan Index: i386/i386/swtch.s === RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/i386/swtch.s,v retrieving revision 1.82 diff -c -r1.82 swtch.s *

HEADS UP: Changes in Vinum

1999-07-02 Thread Greg Lehey
I've been following up on a suggestion Jordan made earlier this week, and I've now introduced some simplified configuration commands for Vinum, in -CURRENT only. I think they cover a fair number of the situations you're likely to need, but they're not intended to be comprehensive. Still, I'd lik

Re: Something weird happening w/ SMP -current

1999-07-02 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Matthew Dillon wrote: > > Here's some more info. If the dd is stuck and systat -vm 1 is showing > no interrupts occuring on, for example, ahc2 (irq17), and I then do > something that causes an interrupt to occur on mux (irq19), which I > guess is ahc1, ahc2 then starts