Re: Our routed - Vern says it's old and buggy.

1999-04-27 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
Sold, to the man in the long black coat! :) > "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > Um, can we get back to the subject at hand PLEASE? Who among you is > > going to import the new routed? Garrett doesn't have testing > > facilities for RIP, so it has to be someone else. Since Chuck also > > appears to

Re: Our routed - Vern says it's old and buggy.

1999-04-27 Thread Mark Murray
"Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > Um, can we get back to the subject at hand PLEASE? Who among you is > going to import the new routed? Garrett doesn't have testing > facilities for RIP, so it has to be someone else. Since Chuck also > appears to have boundless energy for this topic, might he be will

Re: Our routed - Vern says it's old and buggy.

1999-04-27 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
Um, can we get back to the subject at hand PLEASE? Who among you is going to import the new routed? Garrett doesn't have testing facilities for RIP, so it has to be someone else. Since Chuck also appears to have boundless energy for this topic, might he be willing? :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe

Re: HEADS UP! to commit SMP vmspace sharing patches

1999-04-27 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <199904272349.taa28...@lor.watermarkgroup.com>, Luoqi Chen writes: >I'm about to commit the SMP vmspace sharing patch (the %fs approach). All >kernel modules will need to be recompiled. Recompilation is not neccessary >for user land applications including ps, libkvm and friends. > >In th

Re: psm stopped working

1999-04-27 Thread Warner Losh
In message <14118.35262.346147.472...@avalon.east> Anthony Kimball writes: : Somewhere between April 12 and April 24 my PS/2 mouse stopped being : detected by newer kernels. : 773 Apr 24 23:38:03 avalon /kernel: psm0 at 0x60-0x64 irq 12 on motherboard : 774 Apr 24 23:38:03 avalon /kernel: psm0:

Re: Floppies and laptops

1999-04-27 Thread Warner Losh
In message <199904271921.maa05...@vashon.polstra.com> John Polstra writes: : Yes! We need this. I have the sysinstall patches from the PAO people. Plus I've started working on an all kernel design for what pccardd is now doing. This should obviate the need for pccardd on the floppies. Ther

Re: suspend mode broken since one week ago

1999-04-27 Thread Warner Losh
In message <199904272310.raa06...@mt.sri.com> Nate Williams writes: : Someone submitted a patch that checked to see if the BIOS returned a : value > 64M, and if so to 'accept' it's value for the memory, since it's : more likely to be correct. I'd like to apply it to -current, but I'm : not sure of

psm stopped working

1999-04-27 Thread Anthony Kimball
Somewhere between April 12 and April 24 my PS/2 mouse stopped being detected by newer kernels. 773 Apr 24 23:38:03 avalon /kernel: psm0 at 0x60-0x64 irq 12 on motherboard 774 Apr 24 23:38:03 avalon /kernel: psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord..

Re: Our routed - Vern says it's old and buggy.

1999-04-27 Thread Christopher Masto
On Wed, Apr 28, 1999 at 02:45:50PM +1200, Joe Abley wrote: > It's also probably worth mentioning that Zebra is being developed > in an extremely active and proactive fashion, and the principal developers > are extremely open to contributed feedback and code. And it says right on their information

Re: Our routed - Vern says it's old and buggy.

1999-04-27 Thread Joe Abley
On Wed, Apr 28, 1999 at 09:36:09AM +0930, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > > Most importantly: > > > > - Recent values of GateD are distributed under a very unfriendly > > license. And the last "free" version is hideous in the extreme. > There's also zebra,

Re: does login.conf limitations work ?

1999-04-27 Thread Nathan Dorfman
On Sat, Apr 24, 1999 at 04:39:20PM +0200, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, Stephane Legrand wrote: > > > > That's also my impression. I glipmsed the whole source tree and I > > couldn't > > > find any place where the limits are enforced. BTW. what entity should > > > enforce logi

New kernels won't boot

1999-04-27 Thread Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth
On my machine, a kernel newer than one built on the 22nd will not complete booting, panicing about not being able to mount root. Another machine with a very similar config is fine. The main difference is that the faulty machine has its FreeBSD partition in an odd spot on the disk. Below is the

Re: Our routed - Vern says it's old and buggy.

1999-04-27 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Garrett Wollman wrote: > Most importantly: > > - Recent values of GateD are distributed under a very unfriendly > license. There's also zebra, in ports (as someone pointed out on -net the other day), which seems to be GPL'ed. I haven't tried either of the two except to poke

HEADS UP! to commit SMP vmspace sharing patches

1999-04-27 Thread Luoqi Chen
I'm about to commit the SMP vmspace sharing patch (the %fs approach). All kernel modules will need to be recompiled. Recompilation is not neccessary for user land applications including ps, libkvm and friends. In this %fs approach, per-processor private pages are no longer mapped at identical virt

Re: Our routed - Vern says it's old and buggy.

1999-04-27 Thread Matthew Dillon
:> :> - Recent values of GateD are distributed under a very unfriendly :> license. : :Must be more to it, then. The basic idea of what the OSPF router :program should do, it doesn't sound like a huge problem to do, and the :actual specs are pretty well laid out and public, right? : :-

Re: Our routed - Vern says it's old and buggy.

1999-04-27 Thread Chuck Robey
On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < > >> Finally learned enough about routing to understand this. Which router > >> program does OSPF? Gated? > > > Yes. > > >> Since OSPF seems to have a lot of good features, and it's hardly new, > >> why isn't a router using OSPF installed with F

Re: suspend mode broken since one week ago

1999-04-27 Thread Nate Williams
> > : I have the ACPI spec and I'm starting to get to grips with it. Initially, > > : I will be trying to use the static device configuration tables but power > > : management, docking and all that other good stuff should come eventually. > > > > One problem that I've had in trying to use the acpi

Re: Heads up! config(8) changes..

1999-04-27 Thread Bill Fenner
> - complain if a device is specified twice (eg: 2 x psm0) Does this work for pseudo-devices also (i.e. can bin/9931 get closed)? Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: XFree86 and egcs

1999-04-27 Thread John Polstra
In article <199904271932.naa01...@zen.alb.khoral.com>, Steve Jorgensen wrote: > I cvsup'ed and installed yesterday morning it's the third > cvsup I've done since egcs went in, so I know it's working > ok. Anyway, I decided to update my XFree86 installation, > and found th

Re: suspend mode broken since one week ago

1999-04-27 Thread Doug Rabson
On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > In message > Doug Rabson writes: > : I have the ACPI spec and I'm starting to get to grips with it. Initially, > : I will be trying to use the static device configuration tables but power > : management, docking and all that other good stuff should come

Re: Our routed - Vern says it's old and buggy.

1999-04-27 Thread Garrett Wollman
<> Finally learned enough about routing to understand this. Which router >> program does OSPF? Gated? > Yes. >> Since OSPF seems to have a lot of good features, and it's hardly new, >> why isn't a router using OSPF installed with FreeBSD? > Probably because: [three good reasons deleted] Most

RE: XFree86 and egcs

1999-04-27 Thread Christian Sung
I'm seeing the same problem on two different machines, one running -current and the other 2.2.8-STABLE! -christian On 27-Apr-99 Steve Jorgensen wrote: > I cvsup'ed and installed yesterday morning it's the third > cvsup I've done since egcs went in, so I know it's working > ok.

Re: Our routed - Vern says it's old and buggy.

1999-04-27 Thread sthaug
> Finally learned enough about routing to understand this. Which router > program does OSPF? Gated? Yes. > Since OSPF seems to have a lot of good features, and it's hardly new, > why isn't a router using OSPF installed with FreeBSD? Probably because: - OSPF *is* more complex, and you need to

Re: Our routed - Vern says it's old and buggy.

1999-04-27 Thread David Wolfskill
>Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:39:39 -0400 (EDT) >From: Chuck Robey >Finally learned enough about routing to understand this. Which router >program does OSPF? Gated? As I recall from about '93 or so, yes. >Since OSPF seems to have a lot of good features, and it's hardly new, >why isn't a router u

Re: Our routed - Vern says it's old and buggy.

1999-04-27 Thread Chuck Robey
On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > > > Do we have any plans to update it to his latest offering? I believe > > NetBSD's already done so and would be a good source for the bits if we > > need them. > > I have asked someone to do so several times in the past when Vern has >

-current's routing code...

1999-04-27 Thread Jos Backus
I really don't want to whine or anything (apologies in advance), but maybe somebody would be so kind as to apply Luoqi's patch to fix the SYSINIT(?) order so ``route add default'' works again? Thank You :-) Jos -- Jos Backus _/ _/_/_/ "Reliability means never

NFS Patch #8 for current available - new TCP fixes

1999-04-27 Thread Matthew Dillon
(fanfair!) NFS Patch #8 for -current is now available. This patch fixes serious bugs w/ NFS/TCP. Probably not *all* the failure conditions, but hopefully most of them. http://www.backplane.com/FreeBSD4/ NFS attempts to realign packet buffers and trods all over the u

XFree86 and egcs

1999-04-27 Thread Steve Jorgensen
I cvsup'ed and installed yesterday morning it's the third cvsup I've done since egcs went in, so I know it's working ok. Anyway, I decided to update my XFree86 installation, and found that the port no longer works. As it compiles all binaries created report

Re: Floppies and laptops

1999-04-27 Thread John Polstra
In article <199904271419.iaa17...@harmony.village.org>, Warner Losh wrote: > > More generally, it would be nice to have support for pccards on the > boot disk. There is work in progress to make this happen. Yes! We need this. John -- John Polstra

Re: Confusing location of md5 program

1999-04-27 Thread Chris Costello
On Tue, Apr 27, 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > In message "Steve O'Hara-Smith" writes: > : I had always understood that sbin meant static binaries (ie: > : those that could be used even when /lib is hosed) and should contain > : the vital binaries for such situations. I have just failed to loc

Re: Confusing location of md5 program

1999-04-27 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On 27-Apr-99 m...@aldan.algebra.com wrote: > Steve O'Hara-Smith once wrote: > >> On 27-Apr-99 Maxim Sobolev wrote: > There is no /lib on FreeBSD and none of the /bin/* (except for rmail) > is My typo for /lib read /usr/lib, however Warner has shown that (at least for FreeBSD) sbin means

Re: Confusing location of md5 program

1999-04-27 Thread Warner Losh
In message "Steve O'Hara-Smith" writes: : I had always understood that sbin meant static binaries (ie: : those that could be used even when /lib is hosed) and should contain : the vital binaries for such situations. I have just failed to locate : the documentation that has left me believin

Re: Confusing location of md5 program

1999-04-27 Thread mi
Steve O'Hara-Smith once wrote: > On 27-Apr-99 Maxim Sobolev wrote: > >> At a guess, it is there to ensure that when you boot single user, > >> and have only /, you can still verify the integrety of other > >> files... > > > > Why not to put it in /bin? > > I had always understo

Re: Confusing location of md5 program

1999-04-27 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On 27-Apr-99 Maxim Sobolev wrote: >> At a guess, it is there to ensure that when you boot single user, >> and >> have only /, you can still verify the integrety of other files... > > Why not to put it in /bin? I had always understood that sbin meant static binaries (ie: those that could

Re: Confusing location of md5 program

1999-04-27 Thread Maxim Sobolev
> At a guess, it is there to ensure that when you boot single user, and > have only /, you can still verify the integrety of other files... Why not to put it in /bin? ? Max To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: suspend mode broken since one week ago

1999-04-27 Thread Nate Williams
> Small "nit" with APM type stuff, when i close the laptop pccardd seems > to deallocate my netcard. Is this really nessesary? Yes, it is. This is what Win95 does as well, and because of lots of weird problems (not the least of which being certain cards that don't restore their settings when res

Re: Confusing location of md5 program

1999-04-27 Thread Warner Losh
In message <3725d38c.2153f...@altavista.net> Maxim Sobolev writes: : Does anybody can explain why md5 located in /sbin directory? As far as I : know in /sbin only program which intended for super-user (like mount(8)) : or have some features only for super-user (like ping(8)) are located. : md5 in m

Re: suspend mode broken since one week ago

1999-04-27 Thread Warner Losh
In message Alfred Perlstein writes: : Small "nit" with APM type stuff, when i close the laptop pccardd seems : to deallocate my netcard. Is this really nessesary? It comes back : sometimes when i open it again, but not always... Hmmm. In theory if the lid closing is shutting down the laptop i

Re: Confusing location of md5 program

1999-04-27 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <3725d38c.2153f...@altavista.net>, Maxim Sobolev writes: >Does anybody can explain why md5 located in /sbin directory? As far as I >know in /sbin only program which intended for super-user (like mount(8)) >or have some features only for super-user (like ping(8)) are located. It's there

Re: suspend mode broken since one week ago

1999-04-27 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > In message > Doug Rabson writes: > : I have the ACPI spec and I'm starting to get to grips with it. Initially, > : I will be trying to use the static device configuration tables but power > : management, docking and all that other good stuff should come

Our routed - Vern says it's old and buggy.

1999-04-27 Thread Garrett Wollman
< said: > Do we have any plans to update it to his latest offering? I believe > NetBSD's already done so and would be a good source for the bits if we > need them. I have asked someone to do so several times in the past when Vern has mailed me about new versions, but nobody has stood up to the p

Confusing location of md5 program

1999-04-27 Thread Maxim Sobolev
Does anybody can explain why md5 located in /sbin directory? As far as I know in /sbin only program which intended for super-user (like mount(8)) or have some features only for super-user (like ping(8)) are located. md5 in my opinion doesn't fall into any of this categories. Furthermore,? correspon

Re: Sound doesn't work after recent upgrade

1999-04-27 Thread Vallo Kallaste
On Tue, Apr 27, 1999 at 04:30:52PM +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > "silently". Catting something to /dev/audio or /dev/dsp(W) causes > > noise for about 1 second then silence. My soundcard worked well > > "Me too" for my Vibra16?-Card. But only for pcm. The in-kernel Voxware > driver wo

Re: Sound doesn't work after recent upgrade

1999-04-27 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On 27 Apr, Vallo Kallaste wrote: > Something changed between Apr.21 and Apr.27 so that my onboard > Vibra16X get probed but I doesn't get sound. No error messages, > nothing, different players show that all is okay and play > "silently". Catting something to /dev/audio or /dev/dsp(W) causes > no

Re: Floppies and laptops

1999-04-27 Thread Warner Losh
In message <4.1.19990426221303.00924...@216.67.14.69> Forrest Aldrich writes: : mfsroot that would be more apt to find your PCMCIA card? Would be a really : handy tool/option to have. More generally, it would be nice to have support for pccards on the boot disk. There is work in progress to mak

Re: suspend mode broken since one week ago

1999-04-27 Thread Warner Losh
In message <199904271356.waa15...@shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp> Takanori Watanabe writes: : options "VM86" : vm86.c:initial_bioscalls() imprements ACPI Spec section 15. Yea!!! The acpi info program that was posted here (or at least talked about here) recently now works! Yippie! Warner

Re: suspend mode broken since one week ago

1999-04-27 Thread Takanori Watanabe
In message <199904271352.haa17...@harmony.village.org>, Warner Losh さんいわく: >In message Do >ug Rabson writes: >: I have the ACPI spec and I'm starting to get to grips with it. Initially, >: I will be trying to use the static device configuration tables but power >: management, docking a

Re: suspend mode broken since one week ago

1999-04-27 Thread Warner Losh
In message Alex Zepeda writes: : and zzz (and apm -z) don't do much. If we had ACPI support, I'd try : hitting the power button I've been suspending my machine fairly well with this patch. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the

Re: suspend mode broken since one week ago

1999-04-27 Thread Warner Losh
In message Doug Rabson writes: : I have the ACPI spec and I'm starting to get to grips with it. Initially, : I will be trying to use the static device configuration tables but power : management, docking and all that other good stuff should come eventually. One problem that I've had in trying to

Re: file disappeared?

1999-04-27 Thread David Coder
And next time you have a big file you want to get rid of, cp /dev/null foo, then rm foo. dc -- David Coder NOC Op Erols Internet Service/RCN On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Mark Newton wrote: :Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:37:42 +0930 (CST) :From: Mark Newton :To: Alex :Cc: doo...@

Sound doesn't work after recent upgrade

1999-04-27 Thread Vallo Kallaste
Hello ! Something changed between Apr.21 and Apr.27 so that my onboard Vibra16X get probed but I doesn't get sound. No error messages, nothing, different players show that all is okay and play "silently". Catting something to /dev/audio or /dev/dsp(W) causes noise for about 1 second then sil

Attention: Coupon fraud alert!

1999-04-27 Thread rhaas
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Re: suspend mode broken since one week ago

1999-04-27 Thread Doug Rabson
ng and all that other good stuff should come eventually. > > Don't you try my code? > I put it at > http://www.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp/~takawata/acpi/acpi-19990427.tar.gz > . > Currentry what it can do is not so different from my previous code, > but I'll write a cod

Re: suspend mode broken since one week ago

1999-04-27 Thread Takanori Watanabe
e? I put it at http://www.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp/~takawata/acpi/acpi-19990427.tar.gz . Currentry what it can do is not so different from my previous code, but I'll write a code to show ACPI name space tree in a few days. Takanori Watanabe http://www.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp/~takawata/ke

Re: suspend mode broken since one week ago

1999-04-27 Thread Doug Rabson
On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Alex Zepeda wrote: > On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > > > In message <87so9r3x44@muon.xs4all.nl> Peter Mutsaers writes: > > : Is this a bug that I should report through send-pr, is it already > > : known as a bug or is this an intentional change in behaviour? > >

Re: Fatal Trap 12

1999-04-27 Thread Peter Wemm
"Greg Shaffer" wrote: > Warner, > > Thanks for the pointer! The only card I have that specifies a memory address > is ed0 at 0xd8000. I removed the memory address in my config file, rebuilt > the kernel and everything seems to works fine now. This is a older NE2000 > clone card with jumpers for ir