Re: FreeBSD has a politics problem

2018-03-07 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Mark Linimon wrote: > On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 11:46:59PM +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > I agree with the other person's thoughts that FreeBSD fixes uncommited > > for years destroys incentive to file more fixes. > > I do not know anyone who disagrees with this. > > The issue is how to get peo

FreeBSD Foundation CoC involvement

2018-03-07 Thread Josh Goldstein via freebsd-advocacy
Deb, Several people have now asked and you have yet to respond, so I will raise the question again in a new thread in case you're ignoring the politics thread: Did The FreeBSD Foundation pay for works related to the Code of Conduct, and if so how much did it pay, and to whom for what services? I

Re: FreeBSD Foundation CoC involvement

2018-03-07 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
I'm perplexed, speaking as a previous officer of the ASF - Nearly everything we spent money on was public. I know the staff and infra budgets are. I wrote them for two years. At the moment I have no opinion on if this was good or bad to spend on; however as a 501c(3) vs 501c(6) you have limits

RE: FreeBSD Foundation CoC involvement

2018-03-07 Thread deb
Hello Philip and Josh, Sorry, for the delay in my response, and thank you for inquiring how we are spending our money. I need to keep this reply short, as I’m on my way to the airport to attend SCALE to promote FreeBSD and recruit more users and contributors to the Project. I will write up a mo

Re: FreeBSD Foundation CoC involvement

2018-03-07 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
Short? I will digest this. A well written response deb. Thank you. Yeah we didn’t really denote things under 1% much less 0.1%. I was looking for the financials link. My bad I couldn’t find that. Personally I don’t have a problem with how fbsd or the foundation is spending money or not. I d

Re: FreeBSD has a politics problem

2018-03-07 Thread Julian Zottl
So I'll ask a stupid question: Why not base it off of the millions of CoC's already out there? https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct.html is a good start. Yes, it's a commercial company, but it could easily be modified. The CoC as it stands is ridiculous. Here is my contribution

Re: FreeBSD has a politics problem

2018-03-07 Thread Geheimnisse
I really cannot wait until all of the people flipping their shit about the new CoC go back to not tending to their neck hair and tipping their fedoras. Oh, excuse me, trilby hats or whatever they may be. Seriously, the new CoC is the opposite of news. Unless you plan to harrass others online, i

Issues and proposed improvements to the FreeBSD CoC

2018-03-07 Thread Fiorello G. Baumgartner via freebsd-advocacy
Hello, I am a long-time FreeBSD user who has observed much of the controversy around the recently released CoC, and I would like to comment on it. While I don’t oppose the concept of a CoC, I think the current revision has significant issues that I think should be addressed and will outline her