RE: Explaining FreeBSD features

2005-06-22 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
>-Original Message- >From: Erich Dollansky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:57 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: Fafa Hafiz Krantz; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features > > >I do not think that it the design of Windows which

RE: Explaining FreeBSD features

2005-06-22 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
>-Original Message- >From: Erich Dollansky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 9:37 PM >To: Vulpes Velox >Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features > > >Hi, > >Vulpes Velox wrote: > >> Ignorant useless users sh

RE: Explaining FreeBSD features

2005-06-22 Thread Warren Smith
Ted Mittelstaedt said: >>I agree that these 3 groups exist and that FreeBSD is probably not >>appropriate for those in group #3. However, I think there is another >>group that is not represented here. That would be those that are not in >>group #3 because they DO care about understanding how thin

Re: Explaining FreeBSD features

2005-06-22 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:36:48 +0800 Erich Dollansky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Vulpes Velox wrote: > > > Ignorant useless users should be supported by commercial ventures, > > not community ones. They will just drag the community down with > > their weight if they don't help out. > > >

RE: SPAM: Score 2.2: RE: Explaining FreeBSD features

2005-06-22 Thread Johnson David
From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Now maybe PCBSD is going to have an independent future in it's own > right, if so more power to it. But how will that help FreeBSD? It can help FreeBSD by providing features and functionality that FreeBSD can use. It's in the unique position of

Re: Explaining FreeBSD features

2005-06-22 Thread Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg
Andrew L. Gould wrote: On Monday 20 June 2005 07:37 pm, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg wrote: Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: *snip* FreeBSD is a typical system driven by technical people. Clearly its weakest point. Once again, that depends on your audience. If you ask me, its one of FreeBSD's strong

RE: SPAM: Score 2.9: RE: Explaining FreeBSD features

2005-06-22 Thread Johnson David
From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sadly, your attitude is one of the reasons that the United States is > being > run into the ground by a bunch of religious conservatives these days. > Those > people are just like you - they don't want to know anything about Stem > Cell > researc

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2005-06-22 Thread Julian H. Stacey
> I feel the handbook could be made clearer in some areas, but I > believe it is good in general. ( This Not directed at sender above, so sender's name omitted, but the above is a mild example of much worse noise from other hollow vessels on this list. If it doesn't help practical advocacy, a

Re: FreeBSD entry on Wikipedia

2005-06-22 Thread Andy Gilligan
On 21 Jun 2005, at 01:38, Bob Martin wrote: IMHO, if they can roll out a patch to a major security flaw in a day, they should have been able to fix the uptime clock at some point in the last decade. Odd that MS can do something that Linux can't. This was fixed about 3 years ago. -Andy ___

Re[2]: FreeBSD entry on Wikipedia

2005-06-22 Thread Vadim Goncharov
Hello Andy, Thursday, June 23, 2005, 3:03:20 AM, you wrote: AG> On 21 Jun 2005, at 01:38, Bob Martin wrote: >> IMHO, if they can roll out a patch to a major security flaw in a >> day, they should have been able to fix the uptime clock at some >> point in the last decade. Odd that MS can do so

Re: FreeBSD entry on Wikipedia

2005-06-22 Thread Andy Gilligan
On 22 Jun 2005, at 21:11, Vadim Goncharov wrote: AG> On 21 Jun 2005, at 01:38, Bob Martin wrote: IMHO, if they can roll out a patch to a major security flaw in a day, they should have been able to fix the uptime clock at some point in the last decade. Odd that MS can do something that Linux can'

Re[2]: FreeBSD entry on Wikipedia

2005-06-22 Thread Vadim Goncharov
Hello Andy, Thursday, June 23, 2005, 4:24:36 AM, you wrote: IMHO, if they can roll out a patch to a major security flaw in a day, they should have been able to fix the uptime clock at some point in the last decade. Odd that MS can do something that Linux can't. >> AG> This was

Re: Explaining FreeBSD features

2005-06-22 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-06-22 11:09, Warren Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Ted Mittelstaedt said: >> The 4a users, by contrast, may be attracted to Linux initially due >> to the ease-of-entry issue your bringing up. But they try it and >> find out that it's dumbed-down interface gets in the way just as >> much

Re: Explaining FreeBSD features

2005-06-22 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: I do not think that it the design of Windows which makes it target. It is the kind of support people with no knowledge get which makes it. People pay for Windows, not for FreeBSD. The support structures are totally different because of this. If support is what

Re: Explaining FreeBSD features

2005-06-22 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Wednesday 22 June 2005 10:35 pm, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, /--big snip--/ > > Let me put it this way. A long time ago, we call it now stone age, > the people started to realise that a group of people shows better > results if they specialise. The people better in hunting went > hunting, the p

Re: Explaining FreeBSD features

2005-06-22 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, Andrew L. Gould wrote: On Wednesday 22 June 2005 10:35 pm, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, /--big snip--/ That was a good idea. That's a great analogy; but I disagree with the way you've applied it. Yes, the hunters and farmers shared the food. That's not to say that the farmers wanted