On 04/01/2014 07:46, dte...@freebsd.org wrote:
> Eitan,
>
> While I understand your frustration, VICOR is using FreeBSD as a Desktop since
> FreeBSD 2.2. We don't use sound and we are fine relying on vesa.
>
> While I understand that the things you listed are actual short-comings for
> normal
>
El día Tuesday, April 01, 2014 a las 07:43:02PM +0200, Lars Engels escribió:
> > > > > That is why on this date I propose that we cease competing on the
> > > > > desktop market. FreeBSD should declare 2014 to be "year of the
> > [snip]
> >
> > > I'm a happy FreeBSD desktop user since 4.7. There
On Tue, April 1, 2014 11:59 am, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Matt Olander wrote:
>
>
>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:11 AM, Jordan Hubbard
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Eitan Adler
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
That is why on this date I propose that w
> -Original Message-
>> From: owner-freebsd-advoc...@freebsd.org
>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-advoc...@freebsd.org] On
>> Behalf Of Randi Harper
>>
>>You know you opened a can of worms with that one. Because all the nerds are
>>going to step
>> up and say "Well, I run FreeBSD on my >desktop!
Hi all,
I have been a member of the FreeBSD hackers mailing list for about a year.5
now and I must say that I was looking forward to this year's 4/1 email.
Last year, I didn't even realize that the discussion of promoting i386 as a
tier 1 architecture was a joke until someone blatantly mentioned i
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Matt Olander wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:11 AM, Jordan Hubbard
> wrote:
> >
> > On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Eitan Adler wrote:
> >
> >> That is why on this date I propose that we cease competing on the
> >> desktop market. FreeBSD should declare 2014 to
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 07:52:13AM -0700, dte...@freebsd.org wrote:
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Lars Engels [mailto:lars.eng...@0x20.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2014 2:41 AM
> > To: Jordan Hubbard
> > Cc: Eitan Adler; hack...@freebsd.org; curr...@freebsd.org; freebsd-
> > ad
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:11 AM, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
>
> On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Eitan Adler wrote:
>
>> That is why on this date I propose that we cease competing on the
>> desktop market. FreeBSD should declare 2014 to be "year of the Linux
>> desktop" and start to rip out the pieces of
>
> On Mon, March 31, 2014 10:46 pm, Eitan Adler wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>> Some of you may have seen my posts entitled "Story of a Laptop User"
>> and "Story of a Desktop User". For those of you who did not, it can be a
>> worthwhile read to see what life is like when using FreeBSD as a desktop.
-Original Message-
> From: owner-freebsd-advoc...@freebsd.org
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-advoc...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Randi Harper
>
>You know you opened a can of worms with that one. Because all the nerds are
>going to step up and say "Well, I run FreeBSD on my >desktop! It's totally
On Apr 1, 2014, at 6:57 AM, Sean Bruno wrote:
> Why even bother? Its over, just embrace the future and be like this
> happy Mac user:
>
> http://people.freebsd.org/~sbruno/happy_desktop_user.jpg
I have Macs at work (typing on one now), and a mac at home. I like them.
I recently installed Fr
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:11 AM, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
>
>
> There is no such thing as a desktop market for *BSD or Linux. There never
> has been and there never will be.
Oh, god. I'm going to wake up for this mailing list just to say this:
You know you opened a can of worms with that one. Beca
> -Original Message-
> From: Lars Engels [mailto:lars.eng...@0x20.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2014 2:41 AM
> To: Jordan Hubbard
> Cc: Eitan Adler; hack...@freebsd.org; curr...@freebsd.org; freebsd-
> advoc...@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Leaving the Desktop Market
>
> On Tue, Apr 01, 20
Sorry,
should have replied to everybody ;)
Cheers
-- Forwarded Message --
Subject: Re: Leaving the Desktop Market
Date: Tuesday 01 April 2014, 17:34:28
From: Stefan Wendler
To: freebsd-hack...@freebsd.org
Hi,
On Monday 31 March 2014 22:46:45 Eitan Adler wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>
On Mon, March 31, 2014 10:46 pm, Eitan Adler wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>
> Some of you may have seen my posts entitled "Story of a Laptop User"
> and "Story of a Desktop User". For those of you who did not, it can be a
> worthwhile read to see what life is like when using FreeBSD as a desktop.
> In shor
> -Original Message-
> From: Eitan Adler [mailto:li...@eitanadler.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 10:47 PM
> To: hack...@freebsd.org; curr...@freebsd.org; freebsd-
> advoc...@freebsd.org
> Subject: Leaving the Desktop Market
>
> Hi all,
>
> Some of you may have seen my posts entitle
> Hi all,
>
> Some of you may have seen my posts entitled "Story of a Laptop User"
> and "Story of a Desktop User". For those of you who did not, it can
> be a worthwhile read to see what life is like when using FreeBSD as a
> desktop. In short, it is an educational experience. While FreeBSD
> c
On Mon, 2014-03-31 at 22:46 -0700, Eitan Adler wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Some of you may have seen my posts entitled "Story of a Laptop User"
> and "Story of a Desktop User". For those of you who did not, it can
> be a worthwhile read to see what life is like when using FreeBSD as a
> desktop. In sho
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 12:11:19PM +0500, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
>
> On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Eitan Adler wrote:
>
> > That is why on this date I propose that we cease competing on the
> > desktop market. FreeBSD should declare 2014 to be "year of the Linux
> > desktop" and start to rip out
On 1 Apr 2014, at 08:11, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> 1. Power. As you point out, being truly power efficient is a complete
> top-to-bottom engineering effort and it takes a lot more than just trying to
> idle the processor whenever possible to achieve that. You need to optimize
> all of the hot-
Hi,
On 04/01/14 07:46, Eitan Adler wrote:
Hi all,
Some of you may have seen my posts entitled "Story of a Laptop User"
and "Story of a Desktop User". For those of you who did not, it can
be a worthwhile read to see what life is like when using FreeBSD as a
desktop. In short, it is an educatio
On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Eitan Adler wrote:
> That is why on this date I propose that we cease competing on the
> desktop market. FreeBSD should declare 2014 to be "year of the Linux
> desktop" and start to rip out the pieces of the OS not needed for
> server or embedded use.
>
> Some of y
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