Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

2008-12-05 Thread Prince Riley
Hello Everyone, While I can't honestly say I share any enthusiasm for writing a OS in FreePascal, I do think there is merit in looking for projects of similar scope and interest that can demonstrate the power of the language and the tremendous tools that have been developed by this group over the

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Porting linux to pascal, would it be possible ?

2008-12-05 Thread Prince Riley
Hello I don't mean to start a culture war here, but I think there is a bit of overstatement in this post that 'C' is somehow a better language for writing an OS in than say Pascal or OP or anything else. In point of fact, the only 'best' language for any processor is its own machine code which is

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Porting linux to pascal, would it be possible ?

2008-12-05 Thread Prince Riley
g platforms<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_%28computing%29> . Prince On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Prince Riley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello > > I don't mean to start a culture war here, but I think there is a bit of > overstatement in this post that '

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Porting linux to pascal, would it be possible ?

2008-12-05 Thread Prince Riley
Link to the article about the AT&T UNIX OS and C http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIX On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Prince Riley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is a direct reference from the Wikipedia article I referenced in my > prior post ... > > In 1973, Unix

[fpc-pascal] Free Pascal Support for ARM Architecture

2008-12-06 Thread Prince Riley
Hello I have read on the wiki that FP supports ARM.. which I find very interesting.. After reading the manuals I see that FP uses the GNU tools as back-ends and they support ARM ... but it that the extent of the support here. For example, the ASM directive in FP targets the IA33 processor semanti

Re: [fpc-pascal] Free Pascal Support for ARM Architecture

2008-12-06 Thread Prince Riley
directive within the FP syntax is implemented to use ARM register and assembler sematics/syntax which the GNU Assembler assumes will be set by the language 'front end' Thanks Prince On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Jonas Maebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > On 06 Dec 2008

Re: [fpc-pascal] Free Pascal Support for ARM Architecture

2008-12-07 Thread Prince Riley
Maebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > On 07 Dec 2008, at 00:30, Prince Riley wrote: > > A few additional points if I may .. >> >> When you say the FP supports the ARM architecture my specific question is >> how does FP 'inform' the GNU assembler back e

Re: [fpc-pascal] Free Pascal Support for ARM Architecture

2008-12-07 Thread Prince Riley
08 at 4:53 PM, Jonas Maebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > On 07 Dec 2008, at 23:01, Prince Riley wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Jonas Maebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >wrote: >> >> On 07 Dec 2008, at 00:30, Prince Riley wrote: >>> &g

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

2008-12-08 Thread Prince Riley
Hello Like ti weigh in on this thread in the discussion regarding increasing the GUI-ness of FP. Has anyone looked into writing an Eclipse plug-in for FP (as an was done for Python and Ruby)? Given the huge base of Eclipse users this might be a way to reach the goal with both a better developer t

Re: [fpc-pascal] Free Pascal Support for ARM Architecture

2008-12-08 Thread Prince Riley
Sorry to everyone for replying so far down the thread to the points mentioned earlier. The FPC ARM support is stated as ' does not specify an ARM architecture' ... fine ..but there is a major issue there that needs clarification and better documentation. Is it really safe to have no way to target

Re: [fpc-pascal] Free Pascal Support for ARM Architecture

2008-12-08 Thread Prince Riley
then, as I have up to now, I asked which assembler code option ( meaning -- which ARM architecture --) did FP support. On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Jonas Maebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > On 08 Dec 2008, at 20:43, Prince Riley wrote: > > What I keep asking here and not gett

Re: [fpc-pascal] Free Pascal Support for ARM Architecture

2008-12-08 Thread Prince Riley
Marc, Just wanted to say thank you for that info.. much obliged. Prince On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Marc Santhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Am Montag, den 08.12.2008, 13:43 -0600 schrieb Prince Riley: > > Perhaps the person who coded that support into FP can write back an

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Embarcadero/CodeGear officialy interested in Firebird and on native versions of Delphi for other operating systems ...

2008-12-08 Thread Prince Riley
Bee -- You make a very excellent point in your post and one that I think doesn't get repeated loudly enough into the ears of the Embarcadero folks. Maybe its time for an open letter posted to these kinds of lists and sending their president a e-mail with the link to read the comments for himself.

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

2008-12-09 Thread Prince Riley
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In our previous episode, Prince Riley said: > > > > Like ti weigh in on this thread in the discussion regarding increasing > the > > GUI-ness of FP. > > > Has anyone looked into writing an Eclipse plug-in for FP (as an was done > for &

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Embarcadero/CodeGear officialy interested in Firebird and on native versions of Delphi for other operating systems ...

2008-12-10 Thread Prince Riley
Jurgen and Bee made a few rich contrasting points about Borland's past mistakes. However, we must acknowledge that Borland's biggest problem was Borland persisten failure to deliver 'price competitive' and 'high value' programming tools. No one denies Borland's well earned reputation for innovatio

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

2008-12-11 Thread Prince Riley
ys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Prince Riley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Eclipse was first released as a Java development IDE several years ago, > but > > if you take a look at the Eclipse web site www.eclipse.org you'll

Re: [fpc-pascal] Object Pascal operating system

2008-12-11 Thread Prince Riley
I think others to this list may have seen my prior post on how this 'challenge' of writing a OS kernel in Object Pascal could be met using the Unix/Linux history as a guide. It probably wouldn't be worth the additional effort needed to write the entire kernel in Object Pascal in much the same way

Re: [fpc-pascal] How Much of the FP/LCL is there in Indy 9/10 of Lazarus?

2008-12-11 Thread Prince Riley
Hello Has anyone used or attempted to use Indy with FPC... and if so how did you incorporate the Indy components. On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Mattias Gaertner < nc-gaert...@netcologne.de> wrote: > On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:39:18 +0100 > Jürgen Hestermann wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > hopefully

Re: [fpc-pascal] Creating FPC enabled websites

2009-03-02 Thread Prince Riley
Travis, I am joining this discussion fairly late so if you've found your solution already please ignore this post. First, upon reading you feel Irie Pascal is 'optimized' for CGI execution on OSX (Leopard?) my first question is how are you defining that. I've looked over the Irie code just now (u

Re: [fpc-pascal] Creating FPC enabled websites

2009-03-03 Thread Prince Riley
x27;t know whether it can be tweaked in some way to support the REST protocol for an application like yours. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Francisco Reyes wrote: > Prince Riley writes: > > Finally, give the advance from CGI based web apps to Web 2.0 (Javascript >> running in the b

Re: [fpc-pascal] Creating FPC enabled websites

2009-03-03 Thread Prince Riley
essing load (Web server Request/Response), response > time, DB transaction processing load, etc. I also don't know whether it can > be tweaked in some way to support the REST protocol for an application like > yours. > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Francisco Reyes wrote: >

Re: [fpc-pascal] Creating FPC enabled websites

2009-03-03 Thread Prince Riley
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Joost van der Sluis wrote: > Op dinsdag 03-03-2009 om 12:30 uur [tijdzone -0600], schreef Prince > Riley: > > > Primarily the reason why is -- especially for DB web applications -- > > is efficiency, maintainability, and scalability. The recen

Re: [fpc-pascal] Creating FPC enabled websites

2009-03-04 Thread Prince Riley
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > > > On Tue, 3 Mar 2009, Prince Riley wrote: > > > Joost > > > > Reading the responses on this discussion thread, it appears the > 'religious > > war' you mentioned in your prior post wa

Re: [fpc-pascal] Creating FPC enabled websites

2009-03-04 Thread Prince Riley
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:31 AM, Dariusz Mazur wrote: > Prince Riley pisze: > >> Since the discussion in this thread has advanced pretty far along toward >> recommending a FP and Powtils solution to you, then it appears you have a >> technical answer from the group you ca

Re: [fpc-pascal] 2.2.4 for FreeBSD AMD64?

2009-03-04 Thread Prince Riley
Hello I just checked the list on FreeBSD kernel group on the AMD64 port.. and the answer is maybe.. A more definitive answer might be available soon I was told. There is still some delay on the QC for the 2.2.4 RC1 that hasn't been completed and the person doing that QC wasn't answering with a dat

Re: [fpc-pascal] 2.2.4 for FreeBSD AMD64?

2009-03-04 Thread Prince Riley
If anything breaks before then, I'll send you word on the RC... Prince On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Francisco Reyes wrote: > Prince Riley writes: > > Thanks for the reply. > >> I just checked the list on FreeBSD kernel group on the AMD64 port. >> > > The

Re: [fpc-pascal] ARM / SheevaPlug followup

2009-04-14 Thread Prince Riley
It would seem that its probably best we take some time and try to spec out, test, and the publish the steps to follow since I've been interested in a port like this as well. Can we use the steps followed to port PFC to the MacOS hardware platform when it was non-Intel? Should be be looking at a

Re: [fpc-pascal] Linking issue in Ubuntu 9.04 (32 bit)

2009-04-24 Thread Prince Riley
Jonas, Sorry to but in, but I read this post and followed the link to the binutils problem you mentioned in your reply. Is it possible the error message, "Can't call the linker,..." is the result of a bad/missing symlink and not the problem in binutils? I have Ubuntu 9.04 desktop now but haven't

Re: [fpc-pascal] Linking issue in Ubuntu 9.04 (32 bit)

2009-04-24 Thread Prince Riley
Jonas, Thanks for taking the time to reply Jonas. When I get Ubuntu 9.04 installed this weekend I'll shoot you an e-mail confirming the version of binutils it has ... Prince On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Jonas Maebe wrote: > > On 24 Apr 2009, at 23:28, Prince Riley wrote: > &

Re: [fpc-pascal] Linking issue in Ubuntu 9.04 (32 bit)

2009-04-24 Thread Prince Riley
; > On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Jonas Maebe wrote: > >> >> On 24 Apr 2009, at 23:28, Prince Riley wrote: >> >> Sorry to but in, but I read this post and followed the link to the >>> binutils >>> problem you mentioned in your reply. >>> Is it pos

[fpc-pascal] Sourceforge Lazarus DEB Fails on Ubuntu Hardy Heron

2009-05-13 Thread Prince Riley
The current .DEB lazarus-ide_0.9.26.2-0_i386.deb available from the Sourceforge repository reports a dependency error when I attempt to run it on Ubuntu 8.04. The error reads, "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libxi6" What makes this vexing is the installer reports a dependency error when in

[fpc-pascal] Re: Sourceforge Lazarus DEB Fails on Ubuntu Hardy Heron

2009-05-14 Thread Prince Riley
o resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: lazarus-ide: Depends: libxi6 (>= 2:1.1.3-1ubuntu3) but 2:1.1.3-1 is to be installed E: Broken packages On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Prince Riley wrote: > The current .DEB lazarus-ide_0.9.26.2-0_i386.deb available from

Re: [fpc-pascal] DBus interface needs an update

2009-05-18 Thread Prince Riley
Matthias, You might want to take a look at the thread (see below) on this I found On 10/15/06, Marco van de Voort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Florian, afaik Sebastian already had DBus stuff. He demonstrated it in Muenchen? Arg, duplicated work? Well ... he should have written somewhere tha

Re: [fpc-pascal] IE 200307043

2009-05-25 Thread Prince Riley
Hello, There seems to be a bigger issue on this... but perhaps someone else confirm that the following programs, similar to the failing one, work. program test1; var p: Pointer; begin p := nil; p := p + 1; end. Does work and the following program program test2; var

Re: [fpc-pascal] IE 200307043

2009-05-25 Thread Prince Riley
f addressable memory for the CPU architecture (bytes on Intel). However, even in C, the closest equivalent expression to 'p := nil + 1', void *p, is 'p = NULL, p = p + 1' works (compiles) but issues a warning about the 'p = p + 1' expression (GCC v4). On Mon, May 2

Re: [fpc-pascal] IE 200307043

2009-05-25 Thread Prince Riley
literal, not two. So unless I misunderstand you, or there's some run-time evaluation, shouldn't this expression be valid? (but I still worry about how the compiler would assign the correct type to the pointer (is it a valid address). On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Jonas Ma

Re: [fpc-pascal] IE 200307043

2009-05-25 Thread Prince Riley
ter requires considerable thought for reasons of portability and ensuring that pointer arithmetic doesn't become a source of opaque bugs. Prince On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Jonas Maebe wrote: > > On 25 May 2009, at 22:39, Prince Riley wrote: > > That's a very interesting a

Re: [fpc-pascal] IE 200307043

2009-05-25 Thread Prince Riley
eir values are set, incremented, and dereferenced will demonstrate how challenging even a simple pointer handling model can be. On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Frank Peelo wrote: > Prince Riley wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> > >> >> "The reserved wor

Re: [fpc-pascal] IE 200307043

2009-05-27 Thread Prince Riley
ression (p = NULL + p) and (p = 0 + p) which is similar to the case we are talking abotu here. So here is our questiuon: should FP allow the expression (p := nil + p)? If so, what should the result be? I opt that FP should treat it as an invalid expression (compile error) and not as a valid express

Re: [fpc-pascal] DirectFB for FPC beta tarball

2009-06-01 Thread Prince Riley
Hello Roland Thanks for the committ andd the tar ball.. I've set aside next weekend to explore and begin testing it. Perhpas others in the group are like me and putting the tarball on their 'To-Do' list. Prince On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Roland Schaefer < roland.schae...@fu-berlin.de> wrot

Re: [fpc-pascal] someone using indy10 (tiburon)?

2009-10-24 Thread Prince Riley
Hinnack -- Do you think the Indy team would welcome some assistance with the MacOS version of Indy 10. I am def ineterested in Indy 10 on MacOS (Snow Leopard) Prince On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Henrik Genssen < henrik.gens...@mediafactory.de> wrote: > Hi, > > the indy people seem only to