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>
> Since it is already largely uploaded, no. We are only waiting on some
> targets.
>
I thought such a minor fix that don't break any codes could be included.
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> They were used mainly back at TP times to have procedure local static
> variables (cause that is how they behave as inside procedures).
>
Can we make the {$J-} as default in fpc and objfpc mo
Am 11.10.2017 07:00 schrieb "Mr Bee via fpc-pascal" <
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>
> 2017-10-10 16:21 GMT+07:00 Sven Barth via fpc-pascal <
fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org>:
>>
>> They were used mainly back at TP times to have procedure local static
Am 11.10.2017 05:12 schrieb "Mr Bee via fpc-pascal" <
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>
> 2017-10-10 13:28 GMT+07:00 Marco van de Voort :
>>
>>
>> Since it is already largely uploaded, no. We are only waiting on some
>> targets.
>
>
> I th
Am 11.10.2017 08:11 schrieb "Martok" :
>
> Am 25.09.2017 um 14:24 schrieb Sven Barth via fpc-pascal:
> > The RC language itself isn't *that* difficult. Main difficulty would be
to
> > essentially implement a C-preprocessor-compatible preprocessor.
> As I
questions are best asked on the lazarus mailing list (
http://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus ). While quite some of the
devs there read here as well, you'll get even more feedback regarding
Lazarus/LCL topics there.
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, but it is not yet in trunk.
>
> Is there a timeline when FPC might support attributes/annotations in
trunk?
I do hope to look at it soonish(TM), but no real timeline. Hopefully before
3.2.0 :D
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methods with (so that they generate an exception when called).
Thus something very strange is going on with your installation :/
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Am 12.10.2017 10:37 schrieb "Ryan Joseph" :
>
>
>
> > On Oct 12, 2017, at 12:59 PM, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal <
fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote:
> >
> > AbstractError() is the name of the function the compiler uses to
replace abstract methods wi
Wow, okay, that's a nasty one O.o Considering that the "AbstractError" is
in the System unit it's safe to assume that the compiler is getting
confused there.
Would you please open a bug report with this as a full example?
But I'm glad that you found the issue...
R
the strange
behaviour and how to solve the problem?
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p were the client is written in Javascript + HTML and
>> the backend in pascal (fpc)
>>
>> I'd like to use my pascal knowledge of RTL functions, mostly utils
>> (FormatFloat, DateToStr etc) in the client app
>>
>> Do you know any implementation of such functions,
starts to look really good.
Thank you, Michael. But I think there are some units missing. CMIIW.
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Am 16.10.2017 21:36 schrieb "Darius Blaszyk" :
>
> Here's an interesting one. In C I have this code:
>
> #define ID1 MAKE_ID('A', 'B')
>
> Where MAKE_ID is a macro that depending on the endianness of the target
will create either AB or BA.
>
avoid "(P)String" in
this context as this could lead to different results depending on the
modeswitches). For the other string types you need to look at tkAString
(AnsiString), tkWString (WideString) and tkUString (UnicodeString).
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Am 19.10.2017 08:41 schrieb "Ryan Joseph" :
>
>
>
> > On Oct 19, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal <
fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote:
> >
> > And your case for tkSString crashes, because that is a ShortString, not
a AnsiString thus you n
Am 21.10.2017 04:16 schrieb "Nicholas Ring" :
>
> Hi,
>
> I am just wondering where eRTTI is at for Free Pascal. I have found this
5 year old thread (
http://fpc-devel.freepascal.narkive.com/4OnA5HH5/state-of-extended-rtti),
so I am hoping that it is just around the corner
Am 22.10.2017 10:51 schrieb "Dominik Rappaport" :
Hi,
I hope this question is not part of the FAQ list. What are the plans for
FPC as to the support of the various ISO modes of Pascal? At the moment,
there is a switch to enable "ISO" mode, but it's unclear to me which
Am 23.10.2017 04:14 schrieb "Marcos Douglas B. Santos" :
Hi,
In Pascal we can do this:
type
TXStream = TStream;
Now, TXStream is just an alias to TStream.
How do the same with generic classes, using mode delphi?
TBar = TFoo;
Type aliases are currently not supported in mode
Am 23.10.2017 08:29 schrieb "Marco van de Voort" :
In our previous episode, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal said:
>
> Type aliases are currently not supported in mode Delphi. In mode ObjFPC
> they might work, but I'm not sure about that either...
>
> That said I also don
n accesses its outer
scope then it definitely won't work. For that you'd need to wait for
anonymous function support (which are planned - at least a far as I'm
concerned - to also support nested functions).
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Am 23.10.2017 12:55 schrieb "Marcos Douglas B. Santos" :
On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 6:50 AM, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal
wrote:
> Am 23.10.2017 08:29 schrieb "Marco van de Voort" :
>
> In our previous episode, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal said:
>>
>> Type al
Am 23.10.2017 14:37 schrieb "Maciej Izak" :
2017-10-23 14:33 GMT+02:00 Sven Barth via fpc-pascal <
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> Don't know. Only time will tell.
>
Did we have new team member? I would like to meet him! ;)
Sadly time isn't around that
eates threads externally, or when you have callbacks
from
> a DLL which can be called from a thread created by the DLL.
I don’t remember because it was years ago. I believe Jonas advised this but
it may have been related to Objective Pascal and some bugs that existed
back then. The threads I’m c
t there had been any results). Considering that
nowadays I think they use ELF as well it shouldn't be too hard to start a
port though (not that I'd be the one to do it :P)
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Am 10.11.2017 04:06 schrieb "African Wild Dog" :
Hello,
Does Free Pascal has any header translations for WinHTTP.h
<https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa382925(v=vs.85).aspx>
?
Yes, unit WinHTTP in packages/winunits-base
building FPC, all the packages are still missing. So you
nevertheless need to do a complete build for your host life you had done
for your cross compilation target.
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, how will FPC distinguish the two []?
The only idea I have is to check whether the first identifier is a
attribute and if not handle it as a modifier (or if a comma is following
the first identifier).
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On 16.11.2017 15:10, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 14:12:18 +0100
> Sven Barth via fpc-pascal wrote:
>
>> [...]
>> So, how will FPC distinguish the two []?
>>
>>
>> The only idea I have is to check whether the first identifier is a
>>
ier).
One other point to differentiate them: the modifier one always ends with
a semicolon after the closing bracket, Delphi's attributes never do that.
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On 16.11.2017 20:25, Maciej Izak wrote:
>
>
> 2017-11-16 20:17 GMT+01:00 Sven Barth via fpc-pascal
> mailto:fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org>>:
>
> One other point to differentiate them: the modifier one always ends with
> a semicolon after the closing bracket
Am 28.11.2017 20:04 schrieb "Роман via fpc-pascal" <
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'Initialization' sections are executed in poorly predictable order, so I
want to partially order them according to some form of explicit
prioritization and execute before control fl
> The only place under rtl/linux I find haltproc assigned is in
> "si_dll.inc". There procedure _FPC_shared_lib_haltproc deals with
> shared libraries. Not relevant here.
haltproc is assigned in the RTL's Linux startup files. Depending on
whether the specific platform uses
is a 64-bit
library?
Maybe you should take a look at fpSpreadsheet which allows you to work with
Excel files of different versions directly and does not need a library.
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is only changed in trunk a few months ago so that the
operator can be used as an array constructor as well. So for now you'd need
to use an array variable on the right side.
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Am 13.12.2017 11:39 schrieb "Dennis Poon" :
Sven Barth via fpc-pascal wrote:
Am 13.12.2017 03:04 schrieb "Dennis" de...@avidsoft.com.hk>>:
>
> I am converting my windows 32 program to 64 bit.
> It compiled with lazarus without any problem.(fpc 3.
Am 13.12.2017 18:13 schrieb "Dennis" :
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> Am 13.12.2017 11:39 schrieb "Dennis Poon" den...@avidsoft.com.hk>>:
>
>
>
> Just for clarification: is the excel_xp.dll written by you or by a 3rd
> party? Or are you talk
e other hand a transpiler and does not - as
Michael explained - support native features like pointers. Also if you look
at the generated code you can still understand it without much effort.
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ywalker.com/ ). Just open the executable
while the library is located in the same directory and you can see which
routines mismatch.
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84_64 and ARM as well as the obsolete MIPS and PowerPC
targets).
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but nevertheless as explanation:
this code is only reached by asynchronously added events (TThread.Queue())
and there no event is needed, this none is freed or even allocated.
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4. Can somebody give an example on how to use this functionality?
Judging from the implementation inside the RTL I'd say that this is a bug
in the documentation. String message methods work like ordinal ones and
take only one parameter.
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the snake's
movement based on the global coordinate system instead of only left and
right from the local coordinate system on the snake. So I was quite
confused at first as I used "Up", but the snake didn't move there... ^^'
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Am 08.01.2018 12:52 schrieb "Ryan Joseph" :
> On Jan 8, 2018, at 5:58 PM, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal <
fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote:
>
> FPC essentially reparses a generic during specialization so I'd say that
they definitely affect compile times.
Doe
t you need to program in a way that allows the usage of multiple,
different types. That can more often than not lead to worse performance.
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Am 09.01.2018 08:13 schrieb "Ryan Joseph" :
> On Jan 9, 2018, at 2:04 PM, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal <
fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote:
>
> But you need to program in a way that allows the usage of multiple,
different types. That can more often than not
Am 10.01.2018 07:39 schrieb "Marco van de Voort" :
In our previous episode, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal said:
> Precisely these virtual methods are one point. They might not add much by
> themselves, but if they're called for each Add or Remove operation they
can
> add q
s used.
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Am 11.01.2018 08:06 schrieb "Michael Schnell" :
On 09.01.2018 08:04, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal wrote:
But you need to program in a way that allows the usage of multiple,
different types. That can more often than not lead to worse performance.
Seemingly it is done that way.
I rather o
Am 11.01.2018 08:16 schrieb "warleyalex via fpc-pascal" <
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Anyway, what I couldn't find is the built-in kind of *pseudo-methods for
the record data type*, set of operations, for inserting, removing, sorting
and otherwise manipulate the
Am 11.01.2018 13:33 schrieb "Mattias Gaertner" :
On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 11:40:48 -0700 (MST)
warleyalex via fpc-pascal wrote:
>[...]
> · Add(item [,...]) / Push(item [,...]) : increases Length by one and adds
one or more item at the end of the array, can also add array
Am 11.01.2018 18:47 schrieb "Nitorami" :
Any opinions ?
You can try to minimize your source by removing parts to see what might
cause the problem.
Alternatively you can debug the compiler in Lazarus.
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d b) that it needs a directive to be enabled.
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On 14.01.2018 16:19, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, 14 Jan 2018, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal wrote:
>
>> On 14.01.2018 09:56, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 14 Jan 2018, Ryan Joseph wrote:
>>>
>>>>
out that an app contains that
library).
So, yeah, I'm definitely skeptical about such approaches.
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Am 16.01.2018 20:41 schrieb "Graeme Geldenhuys" <
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On 2018-01-16 06:51, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal wrote:
> So, yeah, I'm definitely skeptical about such approaches.
>
All valid points. But if it was such a big concern, then why was Apple
Am 16.01.2018 22:58 schrieb "Rainer Stratmann" :
Am Dienstag, 16. Januar 2018, 22:41:34 schrieb Sven Barth via fpc-pascal:
> This won't work in the more diverse
> Linux world where users are more free to decide.
But if you take a closer look at this (diverse) that is some ki
ogsu57.html#x64-630001.2.57
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I'd now ask those users of fcl-web that have access to Windows to test
their web applications with this backend so that bugs can be found and
fixed.
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e still missing.
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it. *Of course* there is a range check
error then. You need to use e.g. SizeInt as counter variable type in
those cases (SizeInt is 32-bit on 32-bit systems and 64-bit on 64-bit
systems).
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mber from some time back that someone (maybe even Jonas)
presented an example where Delphi does in fact behave different. I'd need
to find that again however. :/
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Am 02.02.2018 18:12 schrieb "Matias Vara" :
Hello,
2018-02-02 17:17 GMT+01:00 Sven Barth via fpc-pascal <
fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org>:
> Am 02.02.2018 15 <02%2002%2020%2018%2015>:50 schrieb "Matias Vara" <
> matiasev...@gmail.com>:
>
>
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r and TWriter
together form the streaming system.
Correct. Stupid autocorrection -.-
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Am 03.02.2018 10:08 schrieb "Michael Van Canneyt" :
On Sat, 3 Feb 2018, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal wrote:
Am 03.02.2018 09:11 schrieb "Michael Van Canneyt" :
>
>
>
> On Sat, 3 Feb 2018, Dennis Poon wrote:
>
>
>
>>> If your objects inherit from T
onsistent.
While I do plan to test what happens if I allow units that were not part of
the generic's scope during its declaration that has the potential to open a
whole new can of bugs.
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ted to generics types and I want to
> try to fix part of them before I decide to update rtl-generics.
>
Would be good if you'd report them on Mantis nevertheless, cause generics
are a bit of a sensitive area and I'd like to keep an overview there.
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"implementation restriction" from the manual - and only
that. I
think?
That *could* be a possibility. I'd need to think about it a bit though to
be sure that there are no caveats.
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e with the same name into the
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s and then typing them back out in function calls.
I simply rely on my IDE (Lazarus, Visual Studio) to complete long
identifier names for me so that I don't have to. *shrugs*
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On 04.03.2018 18:06, Bernd Oppolzer wrote:
> Are procedure and function parameters allowed in Free Pascal?
>
> When I tried to compile the Man-or-boy example program (Knuth's test),
> FPC complained with a syntax error:
>
>
> c:\work\pascal\work>fpc manorboy.pas
&
uses.
No, this doesn't beg the question, because Object Pascal classes are
designed in the principle to reduce on the heap. Changing this would not
only mean quite some changes in the compiler/RTL with no real gain, but it
would also change a core aspect of the Object Pascal language.
Am 08.03.2018 08:33 schrieb "Maciej Izak" :
No, this doesn't beg the question, because Object Pascal classes are
> designed in the principle to reduce on the heap. Changing this would not
> only mean quite some changes in the compiler/RTL with no real gain, but it
>
inally for this. The finally-block is always
executed when the try-block is left no matter if it's by reaching the end,
calling exit or by an exception.
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Am 08.03.2018 12:51 schrieb "Ryan Joseph" :
> On Mar 8, 2018, at 5:42 PM, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal <
fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote:
>
> You are supposed to use try...finally for this. The finally-block is
always executed when the try-block is left no matter if
port for helpers could
be easily added. Only major feature missing compared to classes is the
support for extensive RTTI.
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t’s a real shame to because the time could have
been spent making objects more unified with classes.
Objects share roughly as much code with records as classes do as internally
classes and objects share most of their code.
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Am 09.03.2018 16:41 schrieb "Ryan Joseph" :
> On Mar 9, 2018, at 4:51 PM, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal <
fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote:
>
> Objects share roughly as much code with records as classes do as
internally classes and objects share most of their code
istinguish them from other programming
communities. I've seen it with many other communities, such as Swift, Python,
Kotlin, etc.
Unfortunately, I don't see Pascal language –especially Free Pascal– to have a
such logo. Yes, I know the FPC's official site got a running cheetah (
2018-03-30 15:21 GMT+07:00 Michael Van Canneyt :
>
> I would get rid of the whiskers.
>
>
What's wrong with the whiskers? 😄
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But the head is more compact, which speaks in its favor.
>
Thank you.
> I am not sure how bit the *need* is but it doesn't hurt to have an
> official still image logo.
If we want the young generation to know Pascal with a new paradigm, a
modern programming language paradigm, I think
ns-keep
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>> Just my 50 cents.
>>
>
> And as you can see, the whiskers are barely visible, and not black...
>
> Michael.
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e it looks like a cat, because cheetah is a cat.
> FPC is an open-source project dating back to the days the word "open
> source" did not exist. So maturity is important.
>
How do we put "maturity" onto a cheetah's face? Cheetah is known as the
fastest animal on la
eting/branding talk:Given that I think your version looks like
> > a kitten, you will understand that for the reasons explained above, I
> > would not want to be "associated" with the logo as you proposed it now.
>
> More to the point, why is a Cheetah logo being dis
d, branding is not a subject I am particularly
>
fond of or interested in. I am more interested in the contents of the box
> than in the packaging...
Well… if we want Pascal to be known again –as modern programming language,
not the old 70's Pascal– then branding is quite important. Espe
rybody knows apple is a fruit, yet everybody knows a bitten Apple fruit
logo represents a company that produces computers and smartphones with no
apple fruits involved whatsoever.
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Regards,
–Mr Bee
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or if
> not, is there a better way to optionally exclude diagnostic information
> entirely from the compiled program?
>
It should be excluded. You can confirm this by checking the assembler
output generated with "-al".
Regards,
Sven
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Yes, it is planned. Main problem currently (aside from time) is to define
when a method hides the method of another helper, especially when
inheritance (both for the helper and the extended type) is involved.
Regards,
Sven
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