Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC with case insensitive file system under Linux

2012-02-28 Thread Sven Barth
Am 28.02.2012 08:38, schrieb Noah Silva: Windows supports multiple locales and has 95% of the computer market - Not really: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems Anyway, if we did everything the way Microsoft suggested, we would give up real sym links and litte

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC with case insensitive file system under Linux

2012-02-28 Thread Noah Silva
Hi Sven, >From what I've read, the NT kernel (and filesystem) support a lot of things that Windows in general doesn't. Presumably this is because it is (unofficially, of course) loosely based on VMS, but Win32 was originally designed to work with DOS, etc. Thank you, Noah Silva 2012/2/28 S

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC with case insensitive file system under Linux

2012-02-28 Thread Sven Barth
Am 28.02.2012 09:47, schrieb Noah Silva: Hi Sven, From what I've read, the NT kernel (and filesystem) support a lot of things that Windows in general doesn't. Presumably this is because it is (unofficially, of course) loosely based on VMS, but Win32 was originally designed to work with DOS, et

Re: [fpc-pascal] xterm -e program-compiled-with-fpc2.4.0 doesn't work

2012-02-28 Thread Noah Silva
Hi Max, I haven't used Shell(), and I am sure others can help you there. However, I can think of at least two alternatives: 1. Use pexec() directly 2. Use TProcess or TUTF8Process. Thank you, Noah Silva 2012/2/28 max > With the advent of Debian6 fpc 2.4.0-2 has become the only availab

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC with case insensitive file system under Linux

2012-02-28 Thread Noah Silva
Hi Sven, It seems that since NT is the only remaining Windows kernel now that it might make sense to use NT functions in (for example) the normal SysUtils library for more efficient implementations - do you think there is any strong reason not to? You have to figure there are two layers of thunki

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: What is the most widely used Pascal on Linux and other Unix variants?

2012-02-28 Thread Sven Barth
Am 28.02.2012 08:22, schrieb Noah Silva: Well ObjectPascal has been around since the early 90s at least, and from an end-user point of view, pascal became primarily Object Oriented with TurboVision and later Delphi in the mid 90s - so anyone who doesn't know about that is severely misinformed. I

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC with case insensitive file system under Linux

2012-02-28 Thread Sven Barth
Am 28.02.2012 10:03, schrieb Noah Silva: Hi Sven, It seems that since NT is the only remaining Windows kernel now that it might make sense to use NT functions in (for example) the normal SysUtils library for more efficient implementations - do you think there is any strong reason not to? You ha

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: What is the most widely used Pascal on Linux and other Unix variants?

2012-02-28 Thread Noa Shiruba
Sven, Wow, you should buy him a book on Delphi. I would say on FPC, but the main FPC book is only to be had by mail order - I keep hoping they will offer it in Kindle format or such. -- Noah On 2012/02/28, at 18:05, Sven Barth wrote: > Am 28.02.2012 08:22, schrieb Noah Silva: >> Well Obj

[fpc-pascal] [admin] FPC with case insensitive file system under Linux

2012-02-28 Thread Jonas Maebe
Hi, Can everyone please take this topic to the fpc-other list? It has no longer anything to do with FPC. Thanks, Jonas FPC mailing lists admin ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo

[fpc-pascal] Re: OT: Amazing new development tools

2012-02-28 Thread Lukasz Sokol
On 26/02/2012 11:17, Mattias Gaertner wrote: > On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:43:38 +0100 (CET) Michael Van Canneyt > wrote: > >> >> >> On Sun, 26 Feb 2012, Vinzent Höfler wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:15:54 +0100, ik >>> wrote: >>> I found the following amazing lecture that present a ne

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: FPC with case insensitive file system under Linux

2012-02-28 Thread Jorge Aldo G. de F. Junior
2012/2/27 Jürgen Hestermann : > Virgo Pärna schrieb: > >>    Essentialy, case insensitive filesystems are less problematic. >> > > No, just the opposite. The  problems are only moved (and increased) from the > techie level (where it should belong to) to the user. > This is not a good idea IMO. > If

Re: [fpc-pascal] Fix & Continue in FPC [was: off-topic discussion)

2012-02-28 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 27 Feb 2012, at 13:32, Lukasz Sokol wrote: On 26/02/2012 11:17, Mattias Gaertner wrote: The next step is to "compile" the function on every change. Easy with an interpreter. How to compile only one function of a big program and insert/replace it? Sorry for a plug, but MS V

[fpc-pascal] Linking message "...did you forget -T?"

2012-02-28 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hi, I've been meaning to ask this question since many months ago. Why do I get that ". did you forget -T?" whenever I compile any project. It never used to be there (months ago). - ...snip... Compiling ./apps/ide/replacedialogform_mfm.pas Compiling ./apps/ide/sourcehi

Re: [fpc-pascal] Linking message "...did you forget -T?"

2012-02-28 Thread Sven Barth
Am 28.02.2012 12:06, schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: Hi, I've been meaning to ask this question since many months ago. Why do I get that ". did you forget -T?" whenever I compile any project. It never used to be there (months ago). - ...snip... Compiling ./apps/ide/repla

Re: [fpc-pascal] Linking message "...did you forget -T?"

2012-02-28 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said: > > I've been meaning to ask this question since many months ago. Why do > I get that ". did you forget -T?" whenever I compile any project. > It never used to be there (months ago). http://www.freepascal.org/faq.var#unix-ld219 ___

Re: [fpc-pascal] Linking message "...did you forget -T?"

2012-02-28 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 28 February 2012 13:09, Sven Barth wrote: > > http://www.freepascal.org/faq.var#unix-ld219 OK, so I must just ignore that output then. Is there no way to hide that linker output. PS: I'm using ld 2.20.1-system.20100303 as supplied by Ubuntu 10.04.4 (64-bit). Thanks for the info. -- Reg

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: What is the most widely used Pascal on Linux and other Unix variants?

2012-02-28 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 28 February 2012 11:05, Sven Barth wrote: > > To stress this a bit: around two weeks ago I told my "program optimization" > teacher (who's the head of the "programing languages" chair) about Free > Pascal (and Delphi) and he didn't know that Pascal "already" supports OOP... > :( That seems to b

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: What is the most widely used Pascal on Linux and other Unix variants?

2012-02-28 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 28 February 2012 12:18, Noa Shiruba wrote: > > I would say on FPC, but the main FPC book is only to be had by mail order Give him a copy of the FPC Language Reference pdf document. -- Regards,   - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pas

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: What is the most widely used Pascal on Linux and other Unix variants?

2012-02-28 Thread Marcos Douglas
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Lars wrote: > Frank Church wrote: >> 5. This requires an increase in the uptake of Pascal. I mean if a language >> like D can get so much attention and have libraries being created for it >> why can't Pascal which has been longer established. >> > > Another langua

Re: [fpc-pascal] Linking message "...did you forget -T?"

2012-02-28 Thread Sven Barth
Am 28.02.2012 12:20, schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: On 28 February 2012 13:09, Sven Barth wrote: http://www.freepascal.org/faq.var#unix-ld219 OK, so I must just ignore that output then. Is there no way to hide that linker output. AFAIK there is no option for that... Regards, Sven _

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Class const of array of record.

2012-02-28 Thread Everton Vieira
But is used like one. Why is that so? 2012/2/24 Jonas Maebe > > On 24 Feb 2012, at 18:07, Everton Vieira wrote: > > > static; should be a keyword, doesn't? > > No, it's not a keyword. > > > Jonas > ___ > fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepas

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Class const of array of record.

2012-02-28 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 28 Feb 2012, at 13:25, Everton Vieira wrote: 2012/2/24 Jonas Maebe On 24 Feb 2012, at 18:07, Everton Vieira wrote: static; should be a keyword, doesn't? No, it's not a keyword. But is used like one. Why is that so? It's not used like one. Keyword means "it's a reserved word by the

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Class const of array of record.

2012-02-28 Thread Everton Vieira
I see. I only said so because i thought would became more pretty if his was bolded like de inline next to him. 2012/2/28 Jonas Maebe > > On 28 Feb 2012, at 13:25, Everton Vieira wrote: > > 2012/2/24 Jonas Maebe >> >> On 24 Feb 2012, at 18:07, Everton Vieira wrote: >>> >>> static; should be a

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Class const of array of record.

2012-02-28 Thread Sven Barth
Am 28.02.2012 14:13, schrieb Everton Vieira: I see. I only said so because i thought would became more pretty if his was bolded like de inline next to him. If this is your problem then you should ask this on the Lazarus list. This is a problem of the highlighter not of the compiler. Note: T

Re: [fpc-pascal] Linking message "...did you forget -T?"

2012-02-28 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Sven Barth wrote: Am 28.02.2012 12:20, schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: On 28 February 2012 13:09, Sven Barth wrote: http://www.freepascal.org/faq.var#unix-ld219 OK, so I must just ignore that output then. Is there no way to hide that linker output. AFAIK there is no option for that... | gr

[fpc-pascal] Re: Fix & Continue in FPC [was: off-topic discussion)

2012-02-28 Thread Lukasz Sokol
On 28/02/2012 10:45, Jonas Maebe wrote: > > On 27 Feb 2012, at 13:32, Lukasz Sokol wrote: > >> On 26/02/2012 11:17, Mattias Gaertner wrote: >>> The next step is to "compile" the function on every change. Easy >>> with an interpreter. How to compile only one function of a big >>> program and inser

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Class const of array of record.

2012-02-28 Thread Everton Vieira
Is true, in that case here isn't the place. But nice that why isn't a keyword is clear now. 2012/2/28 Sven Barth > Am 28.02.2012 14:13, schrieb Everton Vieira: > > I see. I only said so because i thought would became more pretty if his >> was bolded like de inline next to him. >> >> > If this i

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Fix & Continue in FPC [was: off-topic discussion)

2012-02-28 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 28 Feb 2012, at 14:36, Lukasz Sokol wrote: On 28/02/2012 10:45, Jonas Maebe wrote: Apple supported that in older versions of their development tools, and it worked as well (or as badly) with FPC as it did with GCC. It required changes to their dynamic linker (for the code replacement) and

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: What is the most widely used Pascal on Linux and other Unix variants?

2012-02-28 Thread Lukasz Stafiniak
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Noah Silva wrote: > > If you want to convince people to use FPC and are having issues, you should > ask them what features, exactly, they are looking for.  Chances are that FPC > has them.  (If they want a functional language, though, then you're out of > luck). P

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: What is the most widely used Pascal on Linux and other Unix variants?

2012-02-28 Thread Alberto Narduzzi
To stress this a bit: around two weeks ago I told my "program optimization" teacher (who's the head of the "programing languages" chair) about Free Pascal (and Delphi) and he didn't know that Pascal "already" supports OOP... :( don't be so sad... pass your exams, whatever it takes to, then rethi