Re: Re[2]: [fpc-pascal]Synapse for FPC

2003-07-23 Thread Matt Emson
> But under Dos you would do simple polling, since the eventloop of your own. > The rest is event driven. (Dos can also be eventdriven, e.g. Turbo Vision, > but the eventloop is under your control) Yes, but doing that in DOS was not trivial. Where as in UNIX it's just a fork away. > While with mo

Re: Re[2]: [fpc-pascal]Synapse for FPC

2003-07-23 Thread Marco van de Voort
> > > Hmm, I think this is more due to the move to event driven programming > models > > than cooperative multitasking. > > No, that is a hlf truth. Have you ever tried to write blocking tcp/ip code > without threads? Yes. > It will block untill it receives the response. This completely* stops

Re: Re[2]: [fpc-pascal]Synapse for FPC

2003-07-23 Thread Matt Emson
> Hmm, I think this is more due to the move to event driven programming models > than cooperative multitasking. No, that is a hlf truth. Have you ever tried to write blocking tcp/ip code without threads? It will block untill it receives the response. This *completely* stops the flow of the applic

Re: Re[2]: [fpc-pascal]Synapse for FPC

2003-07-23 Thread Marco van de Voort
> > Following works perfectly for me for many years: > > > > ioctl(Sock,FIONBIO,@tmp); // nonblocking > > > > All but one applications are single thread. > > Yes. You are using the 'work around'. Traditional UNIX sockets block. > Microsoft (and others) realised this would not work with a co-operat

Re: Re[2]: [fpc-pascal]Synapse for FPC

2003-07-23 Thread Matt Emson
> Why must I use threads? You must use threads in blocking tcp/ip else you will hang your application everytime the network traffic slows or the application you connect to (server?) does not immediately respond. Try changing your calls to blocking and see what happens. > Following works perfectly

Re: Re[2]: [fpc-pascal]Synapse for FPC

2003-07-23 Thread Lukas Gebauer
> LG> yes, but... with other large TCP/IP libraries you MUST use threads... > LG> with synapse you CAN use threads. This is mojor difference! One day > LG> will be finished thread support in FPC and all will be happy. ;-) > > Why must I use threads? Because not exists non-blocking large TCP/IP lib