Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Compiler - Missing Messages etc.

2006-07-22 Thread Arne Hanssen
Rainer Stratmann skrev: > Am Freitag, 21. Juli 2006 20:00 schrieb Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho: >> AFAIK the solution to easely install a software on Linux is to use the >> native packages, like .rpm and .deb > > The solution for fpc at this moment is quite ok. It does not have to be > graphical.

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Compiler - Missing Messages etc.

2006-07-21 Thread Rainer Stratmann
Am Freitag, 21. Juli 2006 20:00 schrieb Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho: > AFAIK the solution to easely install a software on Linux is to use the > native packages, like .rpm and .deb The solution for fpc at this moment is quite ok. It does not have to be graphical. It can be improved for those who d

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Compiler - Missing Messages etc.

2006-07-21 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On 7/21/06, Alexandre Leclerc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There is autopackage.org which is a very nice piece of work... but al c/c++ centric. If you look on google there are several statements from the main developers of ubuntu, gentoo and other major distributions that say horrible things abou

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Compiler - Missing Messages etc.

2006-07-21 Thread Dale Welch
Is there not a standard by distributions which tells software the standard place to install. I have noticed different distributions seem to have different preferences. :-) It seems there should be a file in /etc which would have defined places for installation of software, configuration informati

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Compiler - Missing Messages etc.

2006-07-21 Thread Marco van de Voort
> Marco van de Voort wrote: > > Philosophically saying, that would enter the programmer into a purely > > consumer relation with the OS. Which isn't the case in OSS, since there is > > a > > shared responsibility by all users, nobody excluded. > > You hit the point, except that it _is_ becoming th

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Compiler - Missing Messages etc.

2006-07-21 Thread Rainer Stratmann
Am Freitag, 21. Juli 2006 15:07 schrieb Micha Nelissen: > Rainer Stratmann wrote: > > Partly I agree, but, what has a good programmer to do with internals of > > any os? That a programmer should be an intelligent person does not mean > > that it could not be an advantage if fpc run "out of the box"

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Compiler - Missing Messages etc.

2006-07-21 Thread Tomas Hajny
Marco van de Voort wrote: >> > People don't dig into such stuff will be never good programmers, so I >> > see no real problem if they give up :) Programming is full of such >> > challenges. >> >> Partly I agree, but, what has a good programmer to do with internals of >> any >> os? > > Philosophical

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Compiler - Missing Messages etc.

2006-07-21 Thread Micha Nelissen
Rainer Stratmann wrote: > Partly I agree, but, what has a good programmer to do with internals of any > os? That a programmer should be an intelligent person does not mean that it > could not be an advantage if fpc run "out of the box". What do you count as "internals" ? Surely the programmer sh

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Compiler - Missing Messages etc.

2006-07-21 Thread Marco van de Voort
> > People don't dig into such stuff will be never good programmers, so I > > see no real problem if they give up :) Programming is full of such > > challenges. > > Partly I agree, but, what has a good programmer to do with internals of any > os? Philosophically saying, that would enter the prog

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Compiler - Missing Messages etc.

2006-07-21 Thread Rainer Stratmann
Am Donnerstag, 20. Juli 2006 22:41 schrieb Florian Klaempfl: > Rainer Stratmann wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 20. Juli 2006 13:44 schrieb Jason P Sage: > >> I know most of you know this stuff and it's a no brainer - but - I just > >> wanted to say this because I see people having problems sometimes > >

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Compiler - Missing Messages etc.

2006-07-21 Thread Alexandre Leclerc
2006/7/20, Florian Klaempfl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Tomas Hajny wrote: > On 20 Jul 06, at 22:41, Florian Klaempfl wrote: >> Rainer Stratmann wrote: >>> Am Donnerstag, 20. Juli 2006 13:44 schrieb Jason P Sage: > . > . >>> In my view these "simple things" must have highest priority. >>> >>> In the L

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Compiler - Missing Messages etc.

2006-07-20 Thread Vinzent Höfler
Tomas Hajny wrote: ;-) What would you think about distribution of Win32 version with install.bat script asking you to choose whether you want to put cygwin1.dll in system32 or your new bin directory? So all you're asking for is a "If you don't know the answer, just press "? Isn't that the d

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Compiler - Missing Messages etc.

2006-07-20 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Tomas Hajny wrote: > On 20 Jul 06, at 22:41, Florian Klaempfl wrote: >> Rainer Stratmann wrote: >>> Am Donnerstag, 20. Juli 2006 13:44 schrieb Jason P Sage: > . > . >>> In my view these "simple things" must have highest priority. >>> >>> In the Linux installation routine there is an install-quest

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Compiler - Missing Messages etc.

2006-07-20 Thread Tomas Hajny
On 20 Jul 06, at 22:41, Florian Klaempfl wrote: > Rainer Stratmann wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 20. Juli 2006 13:44 schrieb Jason P Sage: . . > > In my view these "simple things" must have highest priority. > > > > In the Linux installation routine there is an install-question > > something like "

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Compiler - Missing Messages etc.

2006-07-20 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Rainer Stratmann wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 20. Juli 2006 13:44 schrieb Jason P Sage: >> I know most of you know this stuff and it's a no brainer - but - I just >> wanted to say this because I see people having problems sometimes getting >> started and sometimes its easier to go around the ditch than

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Compiler - Missing Messages etc.

2006-07-20 Thread Rainer Stratmann
Am Donnerstag, 20. Juli 2006 13:44 schrieb Jason P Sage: > I know most of you know this stuff and it's a no brainer - but - I just > wanted to say this because I see people having problems sometimes getting > started and sometimes its easier to go around the ditch than to build a > bridge! It is a