Re: [fpc-pascal] FPCUnit article/tutorial online.

2005-10-13 Thread Olle Raab
05-10-11 23.52, skrev L505 följande: > programmer. We have seen the compiler can use "tests" in order to test the > validity of the > compiler. Are these "unit tests" or just "tests". It all seems vague to me. A > compiler is A unit test should test a small module of a program, like a pascal uni

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPCUnit article/tutorial online.

2005-10-11 Thread Dean Zobec
Alan Mead ha scritto: Hello, The Editor of Toolbox Magazine has allowed me to put an article about FPCUnit online. [...] I found the article and the discussion on this list very helpful. Thanks for writing it and making it available. These are probably stupid questions, but all the ex

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPCUnit article/tutorial online.

2005-10-11 Thread L505
> Some weeks ago I've discussed unit testing with a friend (who is working > in a larger team), as I had a light suspiciosly view on this topic. For > _complex_ systems with _clear_ structure and interfaces, they absolutely > make sense and are productive. But the entry level where they are worth >

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPCUnit article/tutorial online.

2005-10-11 Thread Sebastian Günther
Florian Klaempfl schrieb: > > Without the regression tests of our testsuite, FPC would have much less > quality > than it has now. Also code reviewing is something which helps a lot for > complex > stuff. Some weeks ago I've discussed unit testing with a friend (who is working in a larger team)

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPCUnit article/tutorial online.

2005-10-11 Thread Alan Mead
Michael Van Canneyt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > The Editor of Toolbox Magazine has allowed me to put an article > about FPCUnit online. > [...] I found the article and the discussion on this list very helpful. Thanks for writing it and making it available. These are probably stupid

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPCUnit article/tutorial online.

2005-10-10 Thread L505
> I personally wouldn't recommend using FPCunit in all cases. > The purpose of the article is to show that it is present in FPC for those who > want to use such a technology. > Exactly, and I think this discussion has helped me see where I can start experimenting it first, and what cases it woul

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPCUnit article/tutorial online.

2005-10-10 Thread L505
> debugger (I still don't know how to use it effectively with Free Pascal > and in Lazarus I usually keep it disabled :) A failing test usually Same here, I may be speaking from small project experience though, rather than huge/large level project experience. I think I may use the debugger more o

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPCUnit article/tutorial online.

2005-10-10 Thread Dean Zobec
L505 ha scritto: Since I don't exactly know what test frameworks are, even after reading about them for the past few years, I'm going to ask some risky questions. This is not a flame thrower attempt at the test framework advocates, I'm just trying to understand what exactly they do, from a "n

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPCUnit article/tutorial online.

2005-10-10 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > > > On Sun, 9 Oct 2005, Tony Pelton wrote: > >> i started to write a rather lengthy reply to this note, and realized i >> was starting to rant. >> >> so i'm gonna shorten my reply up quite a bit. >> >> i'm a java web app programmer by trade. i use Pascal for fun stu

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPCUnit article/tutorial online.

2005-10-10 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sun, 9 Oct 2005, L505 wrote: Since I don't exactly know what test frameworks are, even after reading about them for the past few years, I'm going to ask some risky questions. This is not a flame thrower attempt at the test framework advocates, I'm just trying to understand what exactly t

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPCUnit article/tutorial online.

2005-10-10 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sun, 9 Oct 2005, Tony Pelton wrote: i started to write a rather lengthy reply to this note, and realized i was starting to rant. so i'm gonna shorten my reply up quite a bit. i'm a java web app programmer by trade. i use Pascal for fun stuff. up until a couple of years ago, i went throug

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPCUnit article/tutorial online.

2005-10-09 Thread L505
> i'm a java web app programmer by trade. i use Pascal for fun stuff. Well I hope you try some of the Pascal web development projects too, and not JUST java for all the web apps... ;) I demand at least some fun pascal web apps out of you, minimum! -- L505 http://z505.com _

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPCUnit article/tutorial online.

2005-10-09 Thread Tony Pelton
i started to write a rather lengthy reply to this note, and realized i was starting to rant. so i'm gonna shorten my reply up quite a bit. i'm a java web app programmer by trade. i use Pascal for fun stuff. up until a couple of years ago, i went through a series of companies where i couldn't esc

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPCUnit article/tutorial online.

2005-10-09 Thread Marc Santhoff
Am Sonntag, den 09.10.2005, 14:09 -0700 schrieb L505: > Since I don't exactly know what test frameworks are, even after reading about > them for the > past few years, I'm going to ask some risky questions. This is not a flame > thrower attempt > at the test framework advocates, I'm just trying to

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPCUnit article/tutorial online.

2005-10-09 Thread L505
Since I don't exactly know what test frameworks are, even after reading about them for the past few years, I'm going to ask some risky questions. This is not a flame thrower attempt at the test framework advocates, I'm just trying to understand what exactly they do, from a "newbie to test framew

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPCUnit article/tutorial online.

2005-10-09 Thread Marc Santhoff
Am Sonntag, den 09.10.2005, 13:39 +0200 schrieb Michael Van Canneyt: > The article covers basic usage, just as well as usage and > installation in Lazarus. It can be considered a tutorial > (till a proper tutorial appears) > > Here is the URL: > http://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/fpcunit.pdf >