Re: [fpc-pascal] Using the LCL without Lazarus

2016-12-17 Thread fredvs
Hello. The new release of ideU is ready to download: https://github.com/fredvs/ideU/releases/tag/1.4.0 For voice assisted, please read README_voice_assisted.TXT. All comment and suggestion are highly appreciated. Have fun. Fre;D - Many thanks ;-) -- View this message in context: http:

Re: [fpc-pascal] Using the LCL without Lazarus

2016-12-03 Thread Martin Schreiber
On 12/03/2016 05:44 AM, BobJ wrote: > > I will be gllad to follow your lead to the MSE forum for future > discussion An archive of the thread is here: https://www.mail-archive.com/mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net/msg10682.html Martin ___ fpc-pas

Re: [fpc-pascal] Using the LCL without Lazarus

2016-12-03 Thread fredvs
Hello Bobj. We are all with you in that difficult moment. When you will come back, there will be a new binary release of ideU, with fixes that you wanted. Fre;D - Many thanks ;-) -- View this message in context: http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/Using-the-LCL-without-Lazar

Re: [fpc-pascal] Using the LCL without Lazarus

2016-12-03 Thread Michael Schnell
On 01.12.2016 18:15, luciano de souza wrote: it would be fantastic if there is also automatic positioning like in Wx or GTK. ... or FireMonkey (to stay in the universe of Delphi influenced programming) But this (enhancing the LCL towards FireMonkey compatibility) should be discussed in the

Re: [fpc-pascal] Using the LCL without Lazarus

2016-12-02 Thread BobJ
Re: [fpc-pascal] Using the LCL without Lazarus Hello BobJ. Did you enable "Voice Assisted" feature of ideU ? Yes, after much trial and error or, probably more accurately, much trial and failure. Did you download the release version of ideU here : https://github.com/fredvs/ideU/re

Re: [fpc-pascal] Using the LCL without Lazarus

2016-12-01 Thread luciano de souza
Yes, this is a very good feature. As I can't see, the single way to not extrapass the space is the automatic layout. To become perfect, it would be fantastic if there is also automatic positioning like in Wx or GTK. In these tool kits, we can add a box or a sizer to the form. When you add elements,

Re: [fpc-pascal] Using the LCL without Lazarus

2016-12-01 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 15:15:36 -0200 luciano de souza wrote: > Yes, this is a very good feature. As I can't see, the single way to > not extrapass the space is the automatic layout. > To become perfect, it would be fantastic if there is also automatic > positioning like in Wx or GTK. Maybe this pag

Re: [fpc-pascal] Using the LCL without Lazarus

2016-12-01 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 14:57:42 -0200 luciano de souza wrote: > I am also blind and this topic really interesses me. > In the given example, heith and width were specified in pixels. > Is there a way to write the same example using automatic adjustments, > in other words, setting to the layout incres

Re: [fpc-pascal] Using the LCL without Lazarus

2016-12-01 Thread luciano de souza
I am also blind and this topic really interesses me. In the given example, heith and width were specified in pixels. Is there a way to write the same example using automatic adjustments, in other words, setting to the layout incresing or decreasing in the proporcion of the label writen? 2016-11-29

Re: [fpc-pascal] Using the LCL without Lazarus

2016-12-01 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2016-12-01 12:54, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > I think BobJ means... having instructions on how to enable SAK in ideU. > Say a README.txt file telling you exactly what to do, once ideU started > up for the first time. Alternatively, could you not add a new command line parameter that toggles SAK

Re: [fpc-pascal] Using the LCL without Lazarus

2016-12-01 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2016-12-01 15:19, fredvs wrote: > Ha, ok. (and what would be the right-better track) ? I simply meant that ideU needs a few more SAK related tweaks (as I already mentioned - but it needs further testing) and it should be much better for visually impaired users. Also, what I think is great abou

Re: [fpc-pascal] Using the LCL without Lazarus

2016-12-01 Thread fredvs
> I definitely believe you are not the right track though. Ha, ok. (and what would be the right-better track) ? Fre;D - Many thanks ;-) -- View this message in context: http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/Using-the-LCL-without-Lazarus-tp5726979p5727004.html Sent from the Free

Re: [fpc-pascal] Using the LCL without Lazarus

2016-12-01 Thread fredvs
Huh, this fast before fpc moderators begin to shout... > Say a README.txt file telling you exactly what to do, once ideU started up > for the first time. +1 (I will add a ASSISTED_README.txt) > Fred, BobJ has a valid point about... BobJ has extremely valid points about assisting and if he agre

Re: [fpc-pascal] Using the LCL without Lazarus

2016-12-01 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2016-12-01 12:02, fredvs wrote: > Did you download the release version of ideU here : > https://github.com/fredvs/ideU/releases/tag/1.3.0 ? > All is included and the voice synthesizer must work out of the box, without > any configuration. I think BobJ means... having instructions on how to enab

Re: [fpc-pascal] Using the LCL without Lazarus

2016-12-01 Thread fredvs
>That was my concern too when Fred started with the accessibility options > for MSEgui. I suggested to use and extend the "iassistiveclient" and > "iassistiveserver" interfaces of MSEgui in order to connect to standard > screen readers instead to implement own reader functionality. Hum, not sur

Re: [fpc-pascal] Using the LCL without Lazarus

2016-12-01 Thread fredvs
Hello BobJ. >> Did you enable "Voice Assisted" feature of ideU ? > Yes, after much trial and error or, probably more accurately, much trial > and failure. Did you download the release version of ideU here : https://github.com/fredvs/ideU/releases/tag/1.3.0 ? All is included and the voice synth

Re: [fpc-pascal] Using the LCL without Lazarus

2016-11-30 Thread Martin Schreiber
On 12/01/2016 04:58 AM, BobJ wrote: > > Hello, > > Sent by: "fredvs" > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:12 AM > >> PS: MSEgui has a perfectly working assisted interface. > > Thanks, I will take a "look" at that, bearing in mind that sighted folks > often over estimate how usable anything w

Re: [fpc-pascal] Using the LCL without Lazarus

2016-11-30 Thread BobJ
Hello, Sent by: "fredvs" Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:12 AM PS: MSEgui has a perfectly working assisted interface. Thanks, I will take a "look" at that, bearing in mind that sighted folks often over estimate how usable anything will be for non-sighted folks. What do you mean wi

Re: [fpc-pascal] Using the LCL without Lazarus

2016-11-30 Thread BobJ
Terrific response, many thanks! I'll see what I can do... Bob -- From: "Mattias Gaertner" Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 3:45 AM To: Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] Using the LCL without Lazarus On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 20:42

Re: [fpc-pascal] Using the LCL without Lazarus

2016-11-30 Thread fredvs
Hello. > My attempts to use the following software has proven to be unsuccessful > because of the "unfriendly" nature of their video displays: > IDEU IDE What do you mean with "unfriendly" nature of their video displays" ? Did you enable "Voice Assisted" feature of ideU ? What would you want to

Re: [fpc-pascal] Using the LCL without Lazarus

2016-11-30 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 20:42:36 -0500 "BobJ" wrote: >[...] > Begin web-site excerpt > > Using the LCL without Lazarus > > 1How to use the LCL without the Lazarus IDE? > 1.1Requirements > 1.2Introduction > 1.3The installation process > 1.4The settings > 1.5The code > 1.6Lazarus 1.

[fpc-pascal] Using the LCL without Lazarus

2016-11-29 Thread BobJ
Most of the viewers of this message are probably already aware that I am totally blind and must rely on screen-reading software to put to voice that which appears on the computer's video display. Unfortunately, there is more than one technique for "painting" a video display, some of which are