Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: OpenDelphi.org

2006-03-16 Thread Alexandre Leclerc
On 3/16/06, memsom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The include files are evil unless the IDE auto inlines them into the > sourcefile. Now, that is an awesome idea... but you would need the +/- in the gutter (side bar?) in cas we talk about multiple includes based on defines clauses... and save the in

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: OpenDelphi.org

2006-03-16 Thread L505
- Original Message - From: "Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FPC-Pascal users discussions" Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: OpenDelphi.org > I'm not complaining, just saying that the source is

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: OpenDelphi.org

2006-03-16 Thread Flávio Etrusco
Hey, great idea! How come I never thought of it? ;-) It'll be on my to-do list for SynEdit :-) -Flávio On 3/16/06, memsom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Note that there have been discussions in the past that e.g. for release > > purposes could be generated per platform that has the necessary in

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: OpenDelphi.org

2006-03-16 Thread L505
On 3/16/06, Alexandre Leclerc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there any way to simplify that and still be multi-platform very > > easely? Indeed, that is very much hard to track down the units. (In > > comparison, Delphi is cleaner, but it is not as multi-platform / > > multi-GUI as laz is.) > T

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: OpenDelphi.org

2006-03-16 Thread memsom
> Note that there have been discussions in the past that e.g. for release > purposes could be generated per platform that has the necessary includes > inlined. It is just the matter of finding sb to write the generator. That would have been me complaining ;-) The include files are evil unless th

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: OpenDelphi.org

2006-03-16 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: >> I'm not complaining, just saying that the source is sometimes hard to >> figure out for some people, like me (I must say I did not went in it >> that much). > > The problem is not include files, the problem is that the code needs > better comments and better d

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: OpenDelphi.org

2006-03-16 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
> I'm not complaining, just saying that the source is sometimes hard to > figure out for some people, like me (I must say I did not went in it > that much). The problem is not include files, the problem is that the code needs better comments and better documentation. > > Includefiles are not evil

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: OpenDelphi.org

2006-03-16 Thread Alexandre Leclerc
On 3/16/06, Marco van de Voort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 3/16/06, Marco van de Voort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > How can you check Delphi's source for cleanness ? It is not available, > > > except for a few modules like RTL,VCL. > > > > Well Marco, I was talking about the "RTL, VCL" pa

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: OpenDelphi.org

2006-03-16 Thread Alexandre Leclerc
On 3/16/06, Vincent Snijders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alexandre Leclerc wrote: > > On 3/16/06, Marco van de Voort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>How can you check Delphi's source for cleanness ? It is not available, > >>except for a few modules like RTL,VCL. > > > > > > Well Marco, I was ta

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: OpenDelphi.org

2006-03-16 Thread Vincent Snijders
Alexandre Leclerc wrote: On 3/16/06, Marco van de Voort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How can you check Delphi's source for cleanness ? It is not available, except for a few modules like RTL,VCL. Well Marco, I was talking about the "RTL, VCL" part, not the source of the actual devel tool, inter

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: OpenDelphi.org

2006-03-16 Thread Marco van de Voort
> On 3/16/06, Marco van de Voort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How can you check Delphi's source for cleanness ? It is not available, > > except for a few modules like RTL,VCL. > > Well Marco, I was talking about the "RTL, VCL" part, not the source of > the actual devel tool, interface, etc. Only

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: OpenDelphi.org

2006-03-16 Thread Alexandre Leclerc
On 3/16/06, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/16/06, Alexandre Leclerc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there any way to simplify that and still be multi-platform very > > easely? Indeed, that is very much hard to track down the units. (In > > comparison, Delphi is clea

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: OpenDelphi.org

2006-03-16 Thread Alexandre Leclerc
On 3/16/06, Marco van de Voort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How can you check Delphi's source for cleanness ? It is not available, > except for a few modules like RTL,VCL. Well Marco, I was talking about the "RTL, VCL" part, not the source of the actual devel tool, interface, etc. Only from the po

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: OpenDelphi.org

2006-03-16 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On 3/16/06, Alexandre Leclerc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there any way to simplify that and still be multi-platform very > easely? Indeed, that is very much hard to track down the units. (In > comparison, Delphi is cleaner, but it is not as multi-platform / > multi-GUI as laz is.) This kind o

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: OpenDelphi.org

2006-03-16 Thread Marco van de Voort
> On 3/15/06, L505 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What do you mean hacking class parents? What I noticed was tons and tons of > > abstraction and tons and tons of layering. So much layering that when I try > > to > > find a bug, I go into the code and start chasing hundreds of units looking > > f

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: OpenDelphi.org

2006-03-16 Thread Alexandre Leclerc
On 3/15/06, L505 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What do you mean hacking class parents? What I noticed was tons and tons of > abstraction and tons and tons of layering. So much layering that when I try to > find a bug, I go into the code and start chasing hundreds of units looking for > the real piec

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: OpenDelphi.org

2006-03-15 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:57:23 -0800 (PST) > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:19:36 +0700 > > From: Bisma Jayadi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: [fpc-pascal] opendelphi.org > > To: fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org > > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: OpenDelphi.org

2006-03-15 Thread L505
> FPC is Ok but a few years ago I examined Lazarus > codebase and I saw Lazarus is hacking Class parents > on-the-fly for its normal operations so I immediately > lost my interest. > Is this changed recently? What do you mean hacking class parents? What I noticed was tons and tons of abstraction

[fpc-pascal] Re: OpenDelphi.org

2006-03-15 Thread G�khan
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:19:36 +0700 > From: Bisma Jayadi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [fpc-pascal] opendelphi.org > To: fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; > format=flowe