Re: [fpc-pascal] Mac losing Carbon support in 64bit Leopard

2007-06-16 Thread Ingemar Ragnemalm
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: On 6/15/07, memsom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Apaprently Troll Tech is unhappy as they use Carbon in their Qt port for Mac OS X... Everyone is unhappy. Office, Photoshop, Adobe products, Firefox, wxWidgets, etc, are all based on Carbon. Actually to me

Re: [fpc-pascal] Mac losing Carbon support in 64bit Leopard

2007-06-15 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On 6/15/07, memsom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Apaprently Troll Tech is unhappy as they use Carbon in their Qt port for Mac OS X... Everyone is unhappy. Office, Photoshop, Adobe products, Firefox, wxWidgets, etc, are all based on Carbon. Actually to me it seams that Apple is the only entusiasti

Re: [fpc-pascal] Mac losing Carbon support in 64bit Leopard

2007-06-15 Thread Henry Vermaak
On 15/06/07, Jonas Maebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You don't really have to do that, Apple already did that: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Reference/ObjCRuntimeRef/ And those routines can be used to build an Objective Pascal on top, to make interfacing easier. And for inspirat

Re: [fpc-pascal] Mac losing Carbon support in 64bit Leopard

2007-06-15 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 15 jun 2007, at 17:18, Henry Vermaak wrote: On 15/06/07, Henry Vermaak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 15/06/07, memsom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > allegedly still hear-say. Is it even possible/practical to use Cocoa to > build a GUI and then use Pascal code to do the logic? you can try

Re: [fpc-pascal] Mac losing Carbon support in 64bit Leopard

2007-06-15 Thread Henry Vermaak
On 15/06/07, Henry Vermaak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 15/06/07, memsom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > allegedly still hear-say. Is it even possible/practical to use Cocoa to > build a GUI and then use Pascal code to do the logic? you can try and build all your functionality into an fpc dynamic

Re: [fpc-pascal] Mac losing Carbon support in 64bit Leopard

2007-06-15 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 15 jun 2007, at 17:09, Henry Vermaak wrote: you can try and build all your functionality into an fpc dynamic lib and then link to it out of xcode. we'll need a layer to export the objective c in a way that we can use it if we're ever going to use cocoa directly. i think it contains a gazil

Re: [fpc-pascal] Mac losing Carbon support in 64bit Leopard

2007-06-15 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 15 jun 2007, at 17:00, memsom wrote: Rumour has it that the Mac OS X 10.5 will not have 64bit Carbon support under Intel. It's not just a rumour, and it's not Intel-only. Several parts of Carbon will not be 64 bit under Mac OS X 10.5. See the "64-bit Carbon" and "Is Carbon Viable?" t

Re: [fpc-pascal] Mac losing Carbon support in 64bit Leopard

2007-06-15 Thread Florian Klaempfl
memsom schrieb: > Rumour has it that the Mac OS X 10.5 will not have 64bit Carbon support > under Intel. That means that Intel based Carbon based apps will only ever > be 32bit and that if 32bit support is ever withdrawn (likely?) Carbon will > be gone. > > I know that the FPC GUI ports under Mac

Re: [fpc-pascal] Mac losing Carbon support in 64bit Leopard

2007-06-15 Thread Henry Vermaak
On 15/06/07, memsom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: allegedly still hear-say. Is it even possible/practical to use Cocoa to build a GUI and then use Pascal code to do the logic? you can try and build all your functionality into an fpc dynamic lib and then link to it out of xcode. we'll need a layer

[fpc-pascal] Mac losing Carbon support in 64bit Leopard

2007-06-15 Thread memsom
Rumour has it that the Mac OS X 10.5 will not have 64bit Carbon support under Intel. That means that Intel based Carbon based apps will only ever be 32bit and that if 32bit support is ever withdrawn (likely?) Carbon will be gone. I know that the FPC GUI ports under Mac OS X tend to use Carbon