Re: [fpc-pascal] A question or two regarding the FPC

2009-05-12 Thread Giuliano Colla
See the follow up of this thread in fpc-other Giuliano fpcl...@silvermono.co.za ha scritto: Hi Graeme You have a point. About two months ago, I had to visit the dentist because one of my filings was playing up. The diagnosis was that an old silver filing was leaking and needed to be replace

Re: [fpc-pascal] A question or two regarding the FPC

2009-05-09 Thread Luca Olivetti
El Sat, 9 May 2009 10:08:50 +0200 Graeme Geldenhuys escribió: > On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 12:24 AM, "Vinzent Höfler" > wrote: > > > > Actually, you should answer one simple question for yourself: If > > your life really depended on the system, would you still trust it? > > In that case we should a

Re: [fpc-pascal] A question or two regarding the FPC

2009-05-09 Thread Lee Jenkins
fpcl...@silvermono.co.za wrote: The dentist's reply was that this was a special version of windows specifically designed to run medical related critical software. Not being an offensive character, I gave him the benefit of the doubt. While he was attempting to start the 'tooth profiling' Pr

Re: [fpc-pascal] A question or two regarding the FPC

2009-05-09 Thread fpclist
Hi Graeme You have a point. About two months ago, I had to visit the dentist because one of my filings was playing up. The diagnosis was that an old silver filing was leaking and needed to be replaced. Becase of all the hype about mercury poisoning caused by silver filings (which from my knowl

Re: [fpc-pascal] A question or two regarding the FPC

2009-05-09 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 3:58 AM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > For example , in an airplane  fall-down  many years before ( approximately > 110 deaths ) it has > been found that in the automatic pilot software an error situation used a > STOP statement . During landing it caused release of control

Re: [fpc-pascal] A question or two regarding the FPC

2009-05-09 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 3:58 AM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > For example , in an airplane  fall-down  many years before ( approximately > 110 deaths ) it has > been found that in the automatic pilot software an error situation used a > STOP statement . During landing it caused release of control

Re: [fpc-pascal] A question or two regarding the FPC

2009-05-09 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
fpcl...@silvermono.co.za wrote: Hi guys, Over the last few years, I have written hundreds of thousands of lines of object pascal code that compiles successfully using the FPC and Delphi. To date, I have not encountered any problems with the code generated by the FP Linux compiler. I don't hav

Re: [fpc-pascal] A question or two regarding the FPC

2009-05-09 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 12:24 AM, "Vinzent Höfler" wrote: > > Actually, you should answer one simple question for yourself: If your life > really depended > on the system, would you still trust it? In that case we should all be very worried. Many critical systems out there run on Windows - we as

Re: [fpc-pascal] A question or two regarding the FPC

2009-05-08 Thread Vinzent Höfler
Von: "Hans Mårtensson" : > But then, in case of zero-tolerance, if you trust the compiler, what > about the OS? and, worst, what about your program? And what about the CPU? ;) > I wouldn't trust the reliability of anything before the full system has > been tested under working conditions. Wha

Re: [fpc-pascal] A question or two regarding the FPC

2009-05-08 Thread Hans Mårtensson
Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Fri, 8 May 2009 14:35:52 -0300 Gustavo Enrique Jimenez wrote: Hi Nino: I am using FPC since 2000-2001. I use it for data aquisition and temperature control. Console programs compiled with FPC 1.x work for days, even weeks. In the "Laboratorio de Física del Sólid

Re: [fpc-pascal] A question or two regarding the FPC

2009-05-08 Thread Vinzent Höfler
Mattias Gaertner : > But I second Jonas mail: Before you run an fpc program in a > zero-tolerance environment, you have to test a lot of things, because a > lot of code was not written with zero-tolerance in mind. Testing simply isn't enough. As we all should know, testing only proofs the exista

Re: [fpc-pascal] A question or two regarding the FPC

2009-05-08 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Fri, 8 May 2009 14:35:52 -0300 Gustavo Enrique Jimenez wrote: > Hi Nino: > > I am using FPC since 2000-2001. I use it for data aquisition and > temperature control. Console programs compiled with FPC 1.x work for > days, even weeks. In the "Laboratorio de Física del Sólido, Tucumán - > Argen

Re: [fpc-pascal] A question or two regarding the FPC

2009-05-08 Thread Leonardo M . Ramé
Wow!, is good to know I'm not the only Argentinian using FPC. Leonardo M. Ramé http://leonardorame.blogspot.com --- On Fri, 5/8/09, Gustavo Enrique Jimenez wrote: > From: Gustavo Enrique Jimenez > Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] A question or two regarding the FPC > To: &qu

Re: [fpc-pascal] A question or two regarding the FPC

2009-05-08 Thread Gustavo Enrique Jimenez
Hi Nino: I am using FPC since 2000-2001. I use it for data aquisition and temperature control. Console programs compiled with FPC 1.x work for days, even weeks. In the "Laboratorio de Física del Sólido, Tucumán - Argentina" (Solid state physics laboratory) we have used programs compiled with FPC

Re: [fpc-pascal] A question or two regarding the FPC

2009-05-08 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 08 May 2009, at 19:02, fpcl...@silvermono.co.za wrote: In your opinion, how would you rate the suitability of the FPC generated code for use in an environment where there is near zero tolorance to failure? Unsuitable. There are no systematic unit tests for most parts of the compiler,

[fpc-pascal] A question or two regarding the FPC

2009-05-08 Thread fpclist
Hi guys, Over the last few years, I have written hundreds of thousands of lines of object pascal code that compiles successfully using the FPC and Delphi. To date, I have not encountered any problems with the code generated by the FP Linux compiler. I don't have much experience with FPC within