Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

2024-10-15 Thread Alexey T. via fpc-pascal
We need one folder of FPC in ~/fpc33 (version suffix is optional): fpc33 -- bin (compiler, cross-compilers, tools) -- src -- rtl -- packages -- tests Mistake. FPC already has good dirs when installed in fpcupdeluxe: user@pc:~/fpcupdeluxe/fpc$ ls bin lib msg share units So all I need if I

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

2024-10-15 Thread Alexey T. via fpc-pascal
- Linux: All relevant files (executable files, configuration files, source code,etc.) are scattered all over the Linux system. This is very complicated again. This is important part. I agree. Some FPC binaries are in /usr/bin. Data files are here, src files are there. Bad! We need one folder

Re: [fpc-pascal] Fwd: What to do to get new users

2024-10-15 Thread Joao Paulo Schwarz Schuler via fpc-pascal
Some half baked ideas: * month after month, the percentage of code coded by AI grows and human made shrinks. * could Pascal be the ideal language coded (or preferred) by AI? Given that Pascal is strongly typed, easy to read and debug, avoids many types of bugs, could we make AI to prefer pascal?

[fpc-pascal] Fwd: What to do to get new users

2024-10-15 Thread Hairy Pixels via fpc-pascal
FPC is not keeping up with trends in the industry which new programmings want despite all the older programmers who are settled in their ways. Even if there is a market for Lazarus type apps people in 2024 don’t want to use a massive legacy IDE and prefer better tools like VSCode. If you want to u

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

2024-10-15 Thread Rainer Stratmann via fpc-pascal
Am Mittwoch, 16. Oktober 2024, 04:00:30 CEST schrieb DougC via fpc-pascal: > I don't think the situations are vary similar, so I don't think the > comparison is useful. I mainly wanted to say that it is possible to do so without extensive marketing. Linux is another example. Linux does not spend

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

2024-10-15 Thread DougC via fpc-pascal
On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:34:01 -0400 Rainer Stratmann via fpc-pascal wrote --- Please notice that Telegram does not spend any money in marketing! Telegram is one of the most popular messenger: https://www.oberlo.com/statistics/most-popular-messagi

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

2024-10-15 Thread Rainer Stratmann via fpc-pascal
Am Mittwoch, 16. Oktober 2024, 02:54:12 CEST schrieb DougC via fpc-pascal: > So, faced with this situation, what can be done? Short of a massive and > expensive marketing effort, not much... Please notice that Telegram does not spend any money in marketing! Pavel Durov, the founder of Telegram say

Re: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

2024-10-15 Thread DougC via fpc-pascal
On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 19:07:58 -0400 Rainer Stratmann via fpc-pascal wrote --- At the Lazarus Congress in Cologne in October 2024, it ended up being very interesting. An important question came up. Why are no new users coming to Lazarus/Freepascal?

[fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

2024-10-15 Thread Rainer Stratmann via fpc-pascal
At the Lazarus Congress in Cologne in October 2024, it ended up being very interesting. An important question came up. Why are no new users coming to Lazarus/Freepascal? Why do we find it so difficult? How can we get new, younger users to come to us? The same questions came up over a year ago at