Re: [fpc-pascal] releasing commercial components as PPU files

2012-10-22 Thread Florian Klämpfl
Am 22.10.2012 15:36, schrieb michael.vancann...@wisa.be: >> >> That's why I'm saying only official FPC releases will be supported in >> the PPU versions of my components. If they want to use FPC 2.6.x (fixes >> branch) or FPC 2.7.1, then they must buy the source code version of my >> components. >

Re: [fpc-pascal] releasing commercial components as PPU files

2012-10-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2012-10-22 15:36, Marco van de Voort wrote: > Another potential caveat is that many distro systems allow to apply distro > specific patches over DIST sources. In that case they will have to use the FPC official 2.6.0 binary release, or purchase the source code version (recommended for obvious r

Re: [fpc-pascal] releasing commercial components as PPU files

2012-10-22 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said: > > I think it would work in principle. Package built systems are harder though, > > one doesn't know if they are built with -Ur. > > Just like my answer to Michael. Isn't -Ur a default compiler parameter > set in the Makefiles? It seems it is now,

Re: [fpc-pascal] releasing commercial components as PPU files

2012-10-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2012-10-22 15:00, Sven Barth wrote: > > DevArt uses this approach for their data access components (see here at... Thanks for the info. > problems. It might (!) get more messy though if you need to use units > distributed with Lazarus (e.g. "Controls", "Graphics", etc.), though it > could

Re: [fpc-pascal] releasing commercial components as PPU files

2012-10-22 Thread Howard Page-Clark
On 22/10/12 3:17, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 2012-10-22 14:59, Vincent Snijders wrote: I am more optimistic than Michael. Because the same source is used, the CRC is the same and no recompile is done. Thanks Vincent, things are looking better and better. You might be interested to follow

Re: [fpc-pascal] releasing commercial components as PPU files

2012-10-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2012-10-22 14:59, Vincent Snijders wrote: > > I am more optimistic than Michael. Because the same source is used, > the CRC is the same and no recompile is done. Thanks Vincent, things are looking better and better. Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpc

Re: [fpc-pascal] releasing commercial components as PPU files

2012-10-22 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, Vincent Snijders wrote: 2012/10/22 : On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, Vincent Snijders wrote: I am more optimistic than Michael. Because the same source is used, the CRC is the same and no recompile is done. It also depends on the date of the .ppu ? I don't think so. But I

Re: [fpc-pascal] releasing commercial components as PPU files

2012-10-22 Thread Vincent Snijders
2012/10/22 : > > > On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, Vincent Snijders wrote: > >> I am more optimistic than Michael. Because the same source is used, >> the CRC is the same and no recompile is done. > > > It also depends on the date of the .ppu ? I don't think so. But I don't mind to be proven otherwise. Vin

Re: [fpc-pascal] releasing commercial components as PPU files

2012-10-22 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, Vincent Snijders wrote: 2012/10/22 Graeme Geldenhuys : On 2012-10-22 14:36, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: I am not sure whether they use the binary release of fpc, or if they compile their own for e.g. windows. If it is the latter, you're in problems. Anybody fro

Re: [fpc-pascal] releasing commercial components as PPU files

2012-10-22 Thread Sven Barth
Am 22.10.2012 15:45, schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: I have doubts this is all worthwhile. Compared to delphi, versions and targets significalty increase, thus support burden increases From my experience it seems that if you do production work, stick to officially released FPC versions only. I hav

Re: [fpc-pascal] releasing commercial components as PPU files

2012-10-22 Thread Vincent Snijders
2012/10/22 Graeme Geldenhuys : > On 2012-10-22 14:36, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: >> >> I am not sure whether they use the binary release of fpc, or if they compile >> their own for e.g. windows. If it is the latter, you're in problems. > > > Anybody from the Lazarus development team that can

Re: [fpc-pascal] releasing commercial components as PPU files

2012-10-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2012-10-22 14:36, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: > > I am not sure whether they use the binary release of fpc, or if they compile > their own for e.g. windows. If it is the latter, you're in problems. Anybody from the Lazarus development team that can comment here? > IMHO, in the end it

Re: [fpc-pascal] releasing commercial components as PPU files

2012-10-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2012-10-22 14:25, Marco van de Voort wrote: > > (and one set per target) Correct. > I've been thinking about this, since the discussion with the TMS grid guy > (Bruno F.) on the Lazarus Day. He was interested because of trial versions > btw, rather than cheap licenses. Yes, I'm thinking of

Re: [fpc-pascal] releasing commercial components as PPU files

2012-10-22 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 2012-10-22 14:15, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: That will most probably not work, although maybe -Ur may provide a solution. Isn't -Ur a default compiler option in official releases? So a 'make all' in the FPC 2.6.0 source directory sho

Re: [fpc-pascal] releasing commercial components as PPU files

2012-10-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2012-10-22 14:15, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: > > That will most probably not work, although maybe -Ur may provide a solution. Isn't -Ur a default compiler option in official releases? So a 'make all' in the FPC 2.6.0 source directory should use the same compiler options on every Linux

Re: [fpc-pascal] releasing commercial components as PPU files

2012-10-22 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said: > Could this work with FPC too? Can I release commercial components as PPU > files for say FPC 2.6.0 (knowing that those PPU's will not work with > any other version of FPC). (and one set per target) > The only supported compilers will be the offi

Re: [fpc-pascal] releasing commercial components as PPU files

2012-10-22 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Hi, Many Delphi components are sold as "full source code", or slightly cheaper (or as trial) as compiled *.DCU files for a specific Delphi version. Could this work with FPC too? Can I release commercial components as PPU files for say FPC 2.6.0

[fpc-pascal] releasing commercial components as PPU files

2012-10-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hi, Many Delphi components are sold as "full source code", or slightly cheaper (or as trial) as compiled *.DCU files for a specific Delphi version. Could this work with FPC too? Can I release commercial components as PPU files for say FPC 2.6.0 (knowing that those PPU's will not work with any ot