Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC with case insensitive file system under Linux

2012-02-27 Thread Noah Silva
Hi, 2012/2/25 Graeme Geldenhuys > On 24 February 2012 16:13, Henry Vermaak wrote: > > > > Because case sensitive systems don't create as much confusion > Then lets look at it from an average user's point of view. Must they > really be confronted with multiple files in a single folder named:

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: What is the most widely used Pascal on Linux and other Unix variants?

2012-02-27 Thread Noah Silva
Hi, 2012/2/28 Lars > Frank Church wrote: > > 5. This requires an increase in the uptake of Pascal. I mean if a > language > > like D can get so much attention and have libraries being created for it > > why can't Pascal which has been longer established. > > > > Another language to check out is

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: FPC with case insensitive file system under Linux

2012-02-27 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
2012/2/28 Flávio Etrusco : > That's a fantastic tip. I'll have to try it :) Yeah, and I would never have found that issue, if I didn't move my data over to a case insensitive file system. > Did you notice any speed gain in compilation time, by chance? ;) I didn't really pay attention to that, s

Re: [fpc-pascal] fpweb and security

2012-02-27 Thread Lars
michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: > > > On Mon, 27 Feb 2012, ik wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I'm thinking now to use fpweb for a web application I need to build, >> but the application is going to be over the internet, and I'm >> interesting in knowing about few security issues that are supported or >>

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: What is the most widely used Pascal on Linux and other Unix variants?

2012-02-27 Thread Lars
Frank Church wrote: > 5. This requires an increase in the uptake of Pascal. I mean if a language > like D can get so much attention and have libraries being created for it > why can't Pascal which has been longer established. > Another language to check out is TutorialD by Date and Darwen, a pasca

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: What is the most widely used Pascal on Linux and other Unix variants?

2012-02-27 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 27 February 2012 18:42, Rich Saunders wrote: > > Unfortunately, as soon as you mention "Pascal" many, many developers, > especially in the USA, turn up their noses and run for the hills, I think that problem is more widespread that just the USA. I have seen it often in the UK and RSA too. I a

Re: [fpc-pascal] What is the most widely used Pascal on Linux and other Unix variants?

2012-02-27 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 27 February 2012 17:58, Sven Barth wrote: > Am 27.02.2012 16:24, schrieb Noa Shiruba: > >> I would say that FPC is the only real competitor to Delphi right now, >> and it works on Windows, Linux, BSD, and mac os. In fact, FPC even has >> an experimental java byte-code target now. > > > Let's no

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: FPC with case insensitive file system under Linux

2012-02-27 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 27 February 2012 18:58, Jürgen Hestermann wrote: > >>    Essentialy, case insensitive filesystems are less problematic. >> > > No, just the opposite. The  problems are only moved (and increased) from the > techie level (where it should belong to) to the user. No, just the opposite. :-) See m

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: FPC with case insensitive file system under Linux

2012-02-27 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Alberto Narduzzi wrote: If there problems with capitalization of certain characters exist then these problems should be solved or if that's not possible for some reason such characters should not be allowed in file systems. But giving it all over to the user and tell him "We did not know how to

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: FPC with case insensitive file system under Linux

2012-02-27 Thread Alberto Narduzzi
If there problems with capitalization of certain characters exist then these problems should be solved or if that's not possible for some reason such characters should not be allowed in file systems. But giving it all over to the user and tell him "We did not know how to handle this mess, just tr

Re: [fpc-pascal] xterm -e program-compiled-with-fpc2.4.0 doesn't work

2012-02-27 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
max wrote: With the advent of Debian6 fpc 2.4.0-2 has become the only available version. Before that, it may have been 1.0 ? A simple program of mine compiled in 2008 with the old fpc , when started with xterm -e program still runs fine today. What are you trying to say: that before 2.4 you wer

[fpc-pascal] xterm -e program-compiled-with-fpc2.4.0 doesn't work

2012-02-27 Thread max
With the advent of Debian6 fpc 2.4.0-2 has become the only available version. Before that, it may have been 1.0 ? A simple program of mine compiled in 2008 with the old fpc , when started with xterm -e program still runs fine today. Now. the new compiler warns about SHELL function being deprecated

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: FPC with case insensitive file system under Linux

2012-02-27 Thread Jürgen Hestermann
Virgo Pärna schrieb: Essentialy, case insensitive filesystems are less problematic. No, just the opposite. The problems are only moved (and increased) from the techie level (where it should belong to) to the user. This is not a good idea IMO. If there problems with capitalization of cer

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: What is the most widely used Pascal on Linux and other Unix variants?

2012-02-27 Thread Rich Saunders
On 2/27/12 10:33 AM, Noa Shiruba wrote: > On 2012/02/27, at 23:14, Frank Church > wrote:I think somehow a way must be found > of getting Pascal identified with Free Pascal on the Linux platform if > it is the most widely used. > > I think that is probably already the cas

Re: [fpc-pascal] What is the most widely used Pascal on Linux and other Unix variants?

2012-02-27 Thread Sven Barth
Am 27.02.2012 16:24, schrieb Noa Shiruba: I would say that FPC is the only real competitor to Delphi right now, and it works on Windows, Linux, BSD, and mac os. In fact, FPC even has an experimental java byte-code target now. Let's not forget minor targets like GameBoy Advance, Nintendo DS, Wii

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: What is the most widely used Pascal on Linux and other Unix variants?

2012-02-27 Thread Noa Shiruba
Hi, On 2012/02/27, at 23:14, Frank Church wrote: > > > On 27 February 2012 10:15, Frank Church wrote: > What is the most widely used Pascal on Linux and other Unix variants? > > Is it Free Pascal? > > -- > Frank Church > > > What license are FPC and Lazarus, are they GPL? > The compile

Re: [fpc-pascal] What is the most widely used Pascal on Linux and other Unix variants?

2012-02-27 Thread Noa Shiruba
Hi Frank, On 2012/02/27, at 19:15, Frank Church wrote: > What is the most widely used Pascal on Linux and other Unix variants? > > Is it Free Pascal? Well I don't have any data to back this up, but I would certainly say FPC. There is gnu pascal, but it fails to compile even trivial turbo pasc

Re: [fpc-pascal] fpweb and security

2012-02-27 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Mon, 27 Feb 2012, ik wrote: Hello, I'm thinking now to use fpweb for a web application I need to build, but the application is going to be over the internet, and I'm interesting in knowing about few security issues that are supported or not. Does it have any CSRF protection ? What other i

[fpc-pascal] Re: What is the most widely used Pascal on Linux and other Unix variants?

2012-02-27 Thread Frank Church
On 27 February 2012 10:15, Frank Church wrote: > What is the most widely used Pascal on Linux and other Unix variants? > > Is it Free Pascal? > > -- > Frank Church > > What license are FPC and Lazarus, are they GPL? I think somehow a way must be found of getting Pascal identified with Free Pasca

[fpc-pascal] fpweb and security

2012-02-27 Thread ik
Hello, I'm thinking now to use fpweb for a web application I need to build, but the application is going to be over the internet, and I'm interesting in knowing about few security issues that are supported or not. Does it have any CSRF protection ? What other if any security tools does it have ?

Re: [fpc-pascal] OT: Amazing new development tools

2012-02-27 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 26 February 2012 14:38, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > Take a school. To be able to test for example data entry of a pupil who > comes to inscribe, I need to create and set up the whole eco-system for my > pupil: > > ...snip... > linked together somehow. For the same reason I never understood th

[fpc-pascal] What is the most widely used Pascal on Linux and other Unix variants?

2012-02-27 Thread Frank Church
What is the most widely used Pascal on Linux and other Unix variants? Is it Free Pascal? -- Frank Church === http://devblog.brahmancreations.com ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.or

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: FPC with case insensitive file system under Linux

2012-02-27 Thread Sven Barth
Am 27.02.2012 10:11, schrieb Virgo Pärna: On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 17:35:38 +0100, Jürgen Hestermann wrote: I wholeheartly agree with you on case sensitive file names. It's a crap. I never understood why they created such a nonsense. Case sensitive filesystem with file names written on dif

[fpc-pascal] Re: FPC with case insensitive file system under Linux

2012-02-27 Thread Virgo Pärna
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 17:35:38 +0100, Jürgen Hestermann wrote: > > I wholeheartly agree with you on case sensitive file names. It's a crap. > I never understood why they created such a nonsense. > Case sensitive filesystem with file names written on different on different character set than cu