Re: [fpc-pascal] Creating FPC enabled websites

2009-03-03 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Bee wrote: > > Yes, and they are nearly all slow, cumbersome and unresponsive. They are > > typical of companies that say "this is easier for me. I don't care whether > > you like using it or not, you are going to have to use it if you want to > > deal with us, and anyway eve

Re: [fpc-pascal] Creating FPC enabled websites

2009-03-03 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009, Prince Riley wrote: > Joost > > Reading the responses on this discussion thread, it appears the 'religious > war' you mentioned in your prior post was unavoidable. > > Not to add any fuel to the warring opinions I'd like answer a comment you > made in response to my respon

Re: [fpc-pascal] Convert complicated string to DateTime

2009-03-03 Thread Gabor Boros
And? I don't understand your suggestion. leledumbo írta: Gabor Boros wrote: Hi, I want to convert a string to a TDateTime variable. In example the string is: 'November 21 09:42:21 2008'. I tried ScanDateTime with ' dd hh:nn:ss ' pattern but not working. How can I convert this type of

Re: [fpc-pascal] Creating FPC enabled websites

2009-03-03 Thread Bee
> Yes, and they are nearly all slow, cumbersome and unresponsive. They are > typical of companies that say "this is easier for me. I don't care whether > you like using it or not, you are going to have to use it if you want to > deal with us, and anyway everyone else has web apps that are just as b

Re: [fpc-pascal] Creating FPC enabled websites

2009-03-03 Thread John & Marg Sunderland
Bee wrote: I've heard all this before since 10 years, and it is only true for small applets used by a broad public. 10 years ago, people was just talking about it. Today, they're doing it. C'mon, look around, there are thousands of complex applications provided on the web. No

Re: [fpc-pascal] Creating FPC enabled websites

2009-03-03 Thread Bee
> Again, not a major issue, since testing needs done on all the given > platforms anyhow, but I just liked the write once, run anywhere approach. If you really need that, despite you said it's not a major issue, then you should consider other solutions. FPC is simply not for the purpose. FPC is ab

Re: [fpc-pascal] Creating FPC enabled websites

2009-03-03 Thread Bee
> I've heard all this before since 10 years, and it is only true for small > applets used by a broad public. 10 years ago, people was just talking about it. Today, they're doing it. C'mon, look around, there are thousands of complex applications provided on the web. Not to mention, web-based appli

Re: [fpc-pascal] Creating FPC enabled websites

2009-03-03 Thread Bee
I used to be on your side a few years ago, Joost. But now I can fully understand why many people start to migrating to web based applications. Especially when your application is used round across the globe or across the nation. > But the key point in this is that people forget that javascript-pro

Re: [fpc-pascal] Convert complicated string to DateTime

2009-03-03 Thread leledumbo
Gabor Boros wrote: > > Hi, > > I want to convert a string to a TDateTime variable. > In example the string is: 'November 21 09:42:21 2008'. > I tried ScanDateTime with ' dd hh:nn:ss ' pattern but not > working. How can I convert this type of string to DateTime? > ScanDateTime does the

Re: [fpc-pascal] Creating FPC enabled websites

2009-03-03 Thread Travis Siegel
But what irie pascal offers is the ability to compile my code once, then execute it on any of the supported platforms. Fpc can't do that. It's really a matter of preference, I know, but it's kind of a moot point, since Stewart King has clearly stated there is no intent to support osx, and si

Re: [fpc-pascal] Creating FPC enabled websites

2009-03-03 Thread Prince Riley
Joost Reading the responses on this discussion thread, it appears the 'religious war' you mentioned in your prior post was unavoidable. Not to add any fuel to the warring opinions I'd like answer a comment you made in response to my response. The recent push to make web applications (not simply

Re: [fpc-pascal] Creating FPC enabled websites

2009-03-03 Thread Andrew Brunner
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > To prove my point I once did performance tests with AJAX, SOAP and whatnot > technologies when compared to a specialized C/S protocol. In general the > conclusion was that SOAP and standards-based applications worked 6 times > slower. A

[fpc-pascal] Convert complicated string to DateTime

2009-03-03 Thread Gabor Boros
Hi, I want to convert a string to a TDateTime variable. In example the string is: 'November 21 09:42:21 2008'. I tried ScanDateTime with ' dd hh:nn:ss ' pattern but not working. How can I convert this type of string to DateTime? Gabor ___ f

Re: [fpc-pascal] Creating FPC enabled websites

2009-03-03 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009, Andrew Brunner wrote: > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Joost van der Sluis wrote: > > > > If users use the application constantly, don't use a web-application. > > > > So the things explained in this document from IBM is usefull for very > > large systems which a lot of use

Re: [fpc-pascal] Creating FPC enabled websites

2009-03-03 Thread Andrew Brunner
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Joost van der Sluis wrote: > > If users use the application constantly, don't use a web-application. > > So the things explained in this document from IBM is usefull for very > large systems which a lot of users (Like Amazon, but they also don't > like the idea of a

Re: [fpc-pascal] Creating FPC enabled websites

2009-03-03 Thread Joost van der Sluis
Op dinsdag 03-03-2009 om 12:30 uur [tijdzone -0600], schreef Prince Riley: > Primarily the reason why is -- especially for DB web applications -- > is efficiency, maintainability, and scalability. The recent major > efforts by Mozilla, Google, and others to improve the performance of > browser Jav

Re: [fpc-pascal] Compilation aborted / Compatability Problem

2009-03-03 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 03 Mar 2009, at 20:02, Jens Kluschat wrote: I´m just trying to use free Pascal for the first time. When I Try to compile a test program, I get the compiler message: Error: Illegal parameter: -Opentium3 or: Fatal: Unable to open file C:\FPC\2.2.2\bin\i386-win32\fp.cfg Fatal: Compilation ab

[fpc-pascal] Compilation aborted / Compatability Problem

2009-03-03 Thread Jens Kluschat
Hello! I´m just trying to use free Pascal for the first time. When I Try to compile a test program, I get the compiler message: Error: Illegal parameter: -Opentium3 or: Fatal: Unable to open file C:\FPC\2.2.2\bin\i386-win32\fp.cfg Fatal: Compilation aborted. Can you help me? Thanks Jens I thi

Re: [fpc-pascal] Creating FPC enabled websites

2009-03-03 Thread Prince Riley
One further point in this thread ... As a starting point in your thinking thru the design choices, here is a fairly complete but accessible article on the topic you might find helpful http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/wa-ajaxarch/index.html On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Prince R

Re: [fpc-pascal] Creating FPC enabled websites

2009-03-03 Thread Prince Riley
Since the discussion in this thread has advanced pretty far along toward recommending a FP and Powtils solution to you, then it appears you have a technical answer from the group you can explore. However, without suggesting there is a bias in favor of a specific client-centric vs server-centric we

Re: [fpc-pascal] Creating FPC enabled websites

2009-03-03 Thread Joost van der Sluis
Op maandag 02-03-2009 om 16:20 uur [tijdzone -0500], schreef Francisco Reyes: > Marco van de Voort writes: > > > Sorry, old name, nowadays it is fcl-web. See packages/ > > Don't see it at > http://www.freepascal.org/packages > > Is there where I should look? It's part of the fcl, in Lazarus you

Re: [fpc-pascal] Creating FPC enabled websites

2009-03-03 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:55 AM, Andreas Berger wrote: > I'm interested to know why no one mentioned powtils yet (other than the > original poster). I might be a bit late, but I just gave some comments on Powtils. :-) > I also am looking into writing a fairly complex CGI > program and powtils see

Re: [fpc-pascal] Creating FPC enabled websites

2009-03-03 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Francisco Reyes wrote: > Any recommendations on which library to use to create web enabled FPC apps? We have 4 applications in our company based on FPC + Powtils to generate standard CGI apps and so far it's working very well. Powtils also has some nice features li