Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Embarcadero/CodeGear officialy interested in Firebird and on native versions of Delphi for other operating systems ...

2008-12-09 Thread Jürgen Hestermann
So, supporting open source should be the safest choice for them. If M$ grows bigger, they can grow bigger with M$. If M$ goes down, they can still grow bigger with other platforms (linux, mac, etc). Many years ago (when Borland was still a real competitor of M$) Borland had problems to create

RE: [fpc-pascal] Cannot find GTK

2008-12-09 Thread leledumbo
> What must I write there? The path to your rtl and packages (just copy it from your fpc.cfg), i.e.: /usr/lib/fpc/2.X.X/rtl /usr/lib/fpc/2.X.X/packages/* -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Cannot-find-GTK-tp20905508p20929531.html Sent from the Free Pascal - General mailing

Re: [fpc-pascal] RTL function list?

2008-12-09 Thread Francisco Reyes
Vincent Snijders writes: Oops, wrong link, I meant: http://lazarus-ccr.sourceforge.net/fpcdoc/rtl/index-8.html Thanks. That will be very helpfull. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinf

Re: [fpc-pascal] Wrong Time from Now() or Time() => [SOLVED]

2008-12-09 Thread Alexander Bauer
I found the problem for the the wrong time. I checked /etc/localtime and this was ok, but there was also a file /etc/timezone with a wrong entry ! fpc seems to first checks the /etc/timezone and then /etc/localtime Kylix, and also all other programs i've tested do it in the different order! b

Re: [fpc-pascal] RTL function list?

2008-12-09 Thread Vincent Snijders
Francisco Reyes schreef: Vincent Snijders writes: e.g. http://lazarus-ccr.sourceforge.net/fpcdoc/rtl/index.html I was looking for something like.. AnsiCompareStr Sysutils DaySpan dateutils Oops, wrong link, I meant: http://lazarus-ccr.sourceforge.net/fpcdoc/rtl/index-8.html Vinc

Re: [fpc-pascal] RTL function list?

2008-12-09 Thread Julio C. Taborda
El Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:25:01 -0500 Francisco Reyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > Vincent Snijders writes: > > > e.g. http://lazarus-ccr.sourceforge.net/fpcdoc/rtl/index.html > > I was looking for something like.. > > > AnsiCompareStr Sysutils > DaySpan dateutils > > Here there's a

Re: [fpc-pascal] RTL function list?

2008-12-09 Thread Tomas Hajny
On Tue, December 9, 2008 22:25, Francisco Reyes wrote: > Vincent Snijders writes: > >> e.g. http://lazarus-ccr.sourceforge.net/fpcdoc/rtl/index.html > > I was looking for something like.. > > > AnsiCompareStr Sysutils > DaySpan dateutils > > > I have been using the PDF and searching for a

Re: [fpc-pascal] RTL function list?

2008-12-09 Thread Francisco Reyes
Marco van de Voort writes: The index of the documentation comes a long way. I have no idea what I was looking at, but went back to the rtl.pdf and I see the index at the beginning with each function. Maybe was looking at the online HTML. The beginning of the PDF is certainly along the lines

Re: [fpc-pascal] RTL function list?

2008-12-09 Thread Francisco Reyes
Vincent Snijders writes: e.g. http://lazarus-ccr.sourceforge.net/fpcdoc/rtl/index.html I was looking for something like.. AnsiCompareStr Sysutils DaySpan dateutils I have been using the PDF and searching for a function as needed. Example.. when I was looking at fstat the example u

Re: [fpc-pascal] Free Pascal Support for ARM Architecture

2008-12-09 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Bernd Mueller schrieb: >> The compiler(s code generator) should take care of target cpu variants >> and architectures. > > I think, this would be a lot of work. Which architecture should be > implemented first? ARMv5 or better the latest ARMv7 (CORTEX) variants. > But what about the Thumb/Thumb-2

RE: [fpc-pascal] Cannot find GTK

2008-12-09 Thread Andres Linares
I went: Options -> directories, and in "Units" the text box is empty. What must I write there? I run openSUSE 10.3, if that's important. Thanks Andres > Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] Cannot find GTK > To: fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org > Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 10:43:18 +0100 > From: [EMAIL PROT

Re: [fpc-pascal] RTL function list?

2008-12-09 Thread Vincent Snijders
Marco van de Voort schreef: In our previous episode, Francisco Reyes said: Is there a list of functions and which RTL libraries they belong to? The index of the documentation comes a long way. e.g. http://lazarus-ccr.sourceforge.net/fpcdoc/rtl/index.html Vincent

Re: [fpc-pascal] Free Pascal Support for ARM Architecture

2008-12-09 Thread Bernd Mueller
Marc Santhoff wrote: Am Dienstag, den 09.12.2008, 09:53 +0100 schrieb Marco van de Voort: In our previous episode, Marc Santhoff said: some small THUMB things, but FPC doesn't generate THUMB code). One possible difference coming to my mind (although only a speed issue, not influencing nonethel

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Embarcadero/CodeGear officialy interested in Firebird and on native versions of Delphi for other operating systems ...

2008-12-09 Thread Bee
I think they had to make a descision: Either against Microsoft or with them. They chose to go with Microsoft so they now have to do everything that supports M$ OSes and avoid everything that could drive users to open source. In both ways there is no guaranty for success: If they try to compete

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Embarcadero/CodeGear officialy interested in Firebird and on native versions of Delphi for other operating systems ...

2008-12-09 Thread Jürgen Hestermann
Was it really more profitable for Borland to let Delphi nearly die? Wouldn't they profit more if they kept investing (and in the correct direction) but also had a larger market share then now? I think they had to make a descision: Either against Microsoft or with them. They chose to go with Mic

Re: [fpc-pascal] RTL function list?

2008-12-09 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
Go to www.freepascal.org Select documentation Scroll to the HTML docs Select at Run-Time Library (RTL) units reference manual (with/without comments). (I usually select without comments, but with could be a good idea too). Select a unit. Select Procedures and Functions -- Felipe Monteiro de

Re: [fpc-pascal] RTL function list?

2008-12-09 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Francisco Reyes said: > Is there a list of functions and which RTL libraries they belong to? The index of the documentation comes a long way. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org

[fpc-pascal] RTL function list?

2008-12-09 Thread Francisco Reyes
Is there a list of functions and which RTL libraries they belong to? ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal

Re: [fpc-pascal] Free Pascal Support for ARM Architecture

2008-12-09 Thread Marc Santhoff
Am Dienstag, den 09.12.2008, 09:53 +0100 schrieb Marco van de Voort: > In our previous episode, Marc Santhoff said: > > > some small THUMB things, but FPC doesn't generate THUMB code). > > > > One possible difference coming to my mind (although only a speed issue, > > not influencing nonetheless w

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Embarcadero/CodeGear officialy interested in Firebird and on native versions of Delphi for other operating systems ...

2008-12-09 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On the positive side they dumped Delphi for .NET and implemented Unicode support. Maybe they are recovering from the last decade of ill management? There is just something I don't get about some business. Delphi is similar to Palm in my oppinion. It was a very popular technology and then it's deve

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Embarcadero/CodeGear officialy interested in Firebird and on native versions of Delphi for other operating systems ...

2008-12-09 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Michael Van Canneyt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Either way, the .NET dependency IS a big hindrance for a lot of their clients, > and obviously they are (again) not listening. But what else is new ? Exactly, they don't learn! And luckily the old Delphi-maintaine

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Embarcadero/CodeGear officialy interested in Firebird and on native versions of Delphi for other operating systems ...

2008-12-09 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Michael Van Canneyt > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> They keep going on about the .NET dependency justification in the IDE, > >> saying they didn't want to reinvent the wheel! > > > > What kind of nonsense is t

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Embarcadero/CodeGear officialy interested in Firebird and on native versions of Delphi for other operating systems ...

2008-12-09 Thread Bee
Sometimes I just understand those guys. I meant: "Sometime I just *don't* understand those guys." Sorry for the typo. :) -Bee- ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal

Re: [fpc-pascal] Free Pascal Support for ARM Architecture

2008-12-09 Thread Bernd Mueller
Bernd Mueller wrote: Aleksa Todorovic wrote: So, the situation is like this: 1) Target ARM architecture needs to be "told" to FPC since FPC needs this information to do correct code generation. At least up to fpc 2.2.2, the compiler does not use any information about the ARM architecture. Th

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Embarcadero/CodeGear officialy interested in Firebird and on native versions of Delphi for other operating systems ...

2008-12-09 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said: > > Afaik it is not even a direct .NET dependancy, but a Java dependancy that > > they chose to resolve via J#->.NET. > > Is J# still being developed? I have seen or heard anything about J# in ages. No idea. Just know this because it was mentione

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 2.2.3

2008-12-09 Thread Joost van der Sluis
Op dinsdag 09-12-2008 om 16:32 uur [tijdzone +1030], schreef Eric March: > Hi > I am running Ubuntu kernel 2.6 64bit. > and FPC 2.2 and getting errors on MYSQL opens. > Lazarus people say I should install FPC 2.2.3 > I tried to link into the Australian mirror and download > a .deb package but get a

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Embarcadero/CodeGear officialy interested in Firebird and on native versions of Delphi for other operating systems ...

2008-12-09 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Marco van de Voort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Afaik it is not even a direct .NET dependancy, but a Java dependancy that > they chose to resolve via J#->.NET. Is J# still being developed? I have seen or heard anything about J# in ages. Regards, - Graeme -

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Embarcadero/CodeGear officialy interested in Firebird and on native versions of Delphi for other operating systems ...

2008-12-09 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Michael Van Canneyt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> They keep going on about the .NET dependency justification in the IDE, >> saying they didn't want to reinvent the wheel! > > What kind of nonsense is that ? What does .NET dependency in the IDE > have to do with r

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Embarcadero/CodeGear officialy interested in Firebird and on native versions of Delphi for other operating systems ...

2008-12-09 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Michael Van Canneyt said: > > > > They keep going on about the .NET dependency justification in the IDE, > > saying they didn't want to reinvent the wheel! > > What kind of nonsense is that ? What does .NET dependency in the IDE > have to do with reinventing the wheel ?

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Embarcadero/CodeGear officialy interested in Firebird and on native versions of Delphi for other operating systems ...

2008-12-09 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:33 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > FPC's FCL and Lazarus' LCL is very much similar and compatible with Delphi's > > (as product) VCL. Having single codebase for different platforms and OSes is > > not that hard, though i

Re: [fpc-pascal] Free Pascal Support for ARM Architecture

2008-12-09 Thread Bernd Mueller
Aleksa Todorovic wrote: So, the situation is like this: 1) Target ARM architecture needs to be "told" to FPC since FPC needs this information to do correct code generation. At least up to fpc 2.2.2, the compiler does not use any information about the ARM architecture. There is one runtime che

Re: [fpc-pascal] Object Pascal operating system

2008-12-09 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Marc Santhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Not an open source project, but it shows it can be >> done. > > Sure it can - but is it worth time? Exactly. Other that a "cool" or "wow" factor. :-) I'd say if whoever has enough drive to try something like this, simp

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Embarcadero/CodeGear officialy interested in Firebird and on native versions of Delphi for other operating systems ...

2008-12-09 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:33 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FPC's FCL and Lazarus' LCL is very much similar and compatible with Delphi's > (as product) VCL. Having single codebase for different platforms and OSes is > not that hard, though in some special cases it can't be 100% single codebase >

Re: [fpc-pascal] Cannot find GTK

2008-12-09 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Andres Linares said: > I was trying with some examples about using the GTK library in the > FreePascal IDE (the blue screen) and it says that this unit is missing. > Despite that, I could compile them all using fpc from the command > interpreter. > > What is happenning? Is

Re: [fpc-pascal] Free Pascal Support for ARM Architecture

2008-12-09 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Marc Santhoff said: > > some small THUMB things, but FPC doesn't generate THUMB code). > > One possible difference coming to my mind (although only a speed issue, > not influencing nonetheless working code): > > There are some ARM7 (and maybe ARM9, not sure) core variants

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

2008-12-09 Thread Prince Riley
Thank you for your reply. Eclipse was first released as a Java development IDE several years ago, but if you take a look at the Eclipse web site www.eclipse.org you'll see that since then Eclipse has evolved and been extended to support Ruby, Python, C/C++. The suggestion I was making is there is

[fpc-pascal] FPC 2.2.3

2008-12-09 Thread Eric March
Hi I am running Ubuntu kernel 2.6 64bit. and FPC 2.2 and getting errors on MYSQL opens. Lazarus people say I should install FPC 2.2.3 I tried to link into the Australian mirror and download a .deb package but get an error that the location is unavailable. I have FPC 2.2 installed and need help on