It may mean an easy and acceptable solution. They may just say no.
It's the very possibility since they think we're the 'bad' guys. ;)
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Op Wed, 14 Nov 2007, schreef Mattias Gaertner:
> That's not the same and will crash since lazarus svn rev 12822.
> Lazarus now uses the Delphi 'Assigned' trick for design time events
> as default.
> I hope this trick is not copyrighted or patented.
Tricks cannot be copyrighted, and we live in s
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:51:14 +0100 (CET)
Daniël Mantione <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Op Tue, 13 Nov 2007, schreef Marc Weustink:
>
> > ik wrote:
> > > On Nov 13, 2007 10:51 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > [..]
> >
> > > > Good news is that that's where the
Op Tue, 13 Nov 2007, schreef Marc Weustink:
> ik wrote:
> > On Nov 13, 2007 10:51 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
>
> [..]
>
> > > Good news is that that's where the similarity ends (well in the units
> > > I checked). Importantly, the
> > > method bodies seem to be implem
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:59:50 +0200
ik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[...]
> > What I found in Lazarus code so far was that somebody _was_ peaking
> > at the Delphi code at some stage.
Yes.
1.
Many pascal programmers have several years Delphi experience and are
used to the Delphi coding style and
On 13/11/2007, ik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What are the elementary methods ?
>
A simple or very basic methods only two or three lines long.
Something like a property Getter or Setter method.
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ik wrote:
On Nov 13, 2007 10:51 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[..]
Good news is that that's where the similarity ends (well in the units I
checked). Importantly, the
method bodies seem to be implemented differently, except for the very
elementary methods.
What are the e
Op Tue, 13 Nov 2007, schreef Graeme Geldenhuys:
> On 13/11/2007, peter green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > In many cases two people trying to implement the same relatively simple
> > behaviour will end up with code that differs in little more than
> > variable names and spacing without need
On Nov 13, 2007 10:51 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 13/11/2007, peter green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > In many cases two people trying to implement the same relatively simple
> > behaviour will end up with code that differs in little more than
> > variable names and
On 13/11/2007, peter green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> In many cases two people trying to implement the same relatively simple
> behaviour will end up with code that differs in little more than
> variable names and spacing without needing to copy.
>
What I found in Lazarus code so far was that
And a single code comparison can be seen here... FPC code is on the right.
http://www.stevetrefethen.com/files/ppcomp.htm
Reading the description carefully it seems like he has modified the
delphi code to look more like the FPC code.
In many cases two people trying to implement the same
On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 18:10 +0700, Bee wrote:
> Maybe we should start some kind of code legality check. Like what had
> been done by ReactOS a few months ago against Windows' code. This tool
> might helps us review FPC's and Lazarus' code against Delphi code (or
> other as well?).
Wouldn't it
>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:28:47 +0100 (CET)
>> "Peter Vreman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> > On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:21:36 +0100 (CET)
>>> > "Peter Vreman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>[...]
>>> >> >> fpc -n -FUunits\i386-win32\ -Fu..\..\src\ -Fuunits\i386-win32\*
>>> >> >> myexample.
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:28:47 +0100 (CET)
> "Peter Vreman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> > On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:21:36 +0100 (CET)
>> > "Peter Vreman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> >>[...]
>> >> >> fpc -n -FUunits\i386-win32\ -Fu..\..\src\ -Fuunits\i386-win32\*
>> >> >> myexample.pp
>> >>
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:28:47 +0100 (CET)
"Peter Vreman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:21:36 +0100 (CET)
> > "Peter Vreman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>[...]
> >> >> fpc -n -FUunits\i386-win32\ -Fu..\..\src\ -Fuunits\i386-win32\*
> >> >> myexample.pp
> >> >>
> >> >> 1
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:21:36 +0100 (CET)
> "Peter Vreman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>[...]
>> >> fpc -n -FUunits\i386-win32\ -Fu..\..\src\ -Fuunits\i386-win32\*
>> >> myexample.pp
>> >>
>> >> 1. What strikes me is that the command line has the option -n in
>> >> it. It appears that this comma
On 13/11/2007, Graeme Geldenhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> there is a lot of similar code and no, I'm not talking about the class
> interfaces (which are duplicated on purpose).
I would like to apologize to the Lazarus developers. I jumped the gun
a bit. I should have done a bit of RTFM befo
> > I wrote an answer.
> You (or other FPC core team members) should write a blog post about this
> and explain this situation in more complete description, instead write
> it as comment on someone's blog. This way, other people would see a
> better and more comprehensive responses from FPC side
The software used between the Linux and Minix case was SIM. It seems
to be quite cleaver software and hope we can use it too..
Maybe we should start some kind of code legality check. Like what had
been done by ReactOS a few months ago against Windows' code. This tool
might helps us review FPC'
> > I have heard that there is software that can do code comparisons to
> > find infringements (I'm thinking of a article between Linux and Minix
> > code). Anybody got such a program available so we can possibly do a
> > automated comparison. I'll try and find out what was used to compare
> > Mi
I wrote an answer.
You (or other FPC core team members) should write a blog post about this
and explain this situation in more complete description, instead write
it as comment on someone's blog. This way, other people would see a
better and more comprehensive responses from FPC side.
That'
On 13/11/2007, Florian Klaempfl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I wrote an answer.
>
The scary thing is, I used the tool mentioned earlier (sim_pasc) and
did a few random tests on Lazarus code and Kylix 3 code. My god,
there is a lot of similar code and no, I'm not talking about the class
interfa
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb:
> For those that don't follow the Lazarus mailing list.
> It was brought to our attention by a ex-Borland employee (Steve
> Trefethen), that FPC contains some stolen code from Delphi. Especially
> Delphi 4 & 5.
I wrote an answer.
_
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:21:36 +0100 (CET)
"Peter Vreman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[...]
> >> fpc -n -FUunits\i386-win32\ -Fu..\..\src\ -Fuunits\i386-win32\*
> >> myexample.pp
> >>
> >> 1. What strikes me is that the command line has the option -n in
> >> it. It appears that this command line opt
Daniël Mantione wrote:
Op Tue, 13 Nov 2007, schreef Graeme Geldenhuys:
For those that don't follow the Lazarus mailing list.
It was brought to our attention by a ex-Borland employee (Steve
Trefethen), that FPC contains some stolen code from Delphi. Especially
Delphi 4 & 5.
The full discussi
I have heard that there is software that can do code comparisons to
find infringements (I'm thinking of a article between Linux and Minix
code). Anybody got such a program available so we can possibly do a
automated comparison. I'll try and find out what was used to compare
Minix and Linux cod
Op Tue, 13 Nov 2007, schreef Graeme Geldenhuys:
> For those that don't follow the Lazarus mailing list.
> It was brought to our attention by a ex-Borland employee (Steve
> Trefethen), that FPC contains some stolen code from Delphi. Especially
> Delphi 4 & 5.
>
> The full discussion can be read
The software used between the Linux and Minix case was SIM. It seems
to be quite cleaver software and hope we can use it too..
The software similarity tester SIM version 2.12
[ftp://ftp.cs.vu.nl/pub/dick/similarity_tester] was used for source
code comparison.
I got that information from this w
For those that don't follow the Lazarus mailing list.
It was brought to our attention by a ex-Borland employee (Steve
Trefethen), that FPC contains some stolen code from Delphi. Especially
Delphi 4 & 5.
The full discussion can be read here...
http://www.stevetrefethen.com/files/ppcomp.htm
And
> The following patch fixes a broken TTarget.Mode.
Fixed using Delete() which is easier to read.
Peter
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> After reconsidering the -n option. It should depend on the "-f /
> --config=" option.
The --config and -n are indepdenent. The --config can be used to supply a
configuration for
fpmake. The -n is for the compiler configuration.
>> I've been playing around with fpmake again and came to the con
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