Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3

2014-04-12 Thread Alberto Ruiz
Hello everyone,I would politely ask to end this thread, discussing the name of Arch linux on this list accomplishes nothing. 2014-04-12 14:02 GMT+02:00 Richard Stallman : > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against

Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3

2014-04-12 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > By the way, there also an Arch Hurd distro[1] as well as a Debian > GNU/kFr

Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3

2014-04-10 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Mathieu Stumpf wrote: > Le mercredi 02 avril 2014 à 16:02 -0400, Richard Stallman a écrit : >> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] >> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] >> [[[ foreign or domestic

Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3

2014-04-09 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Le mercredi 02 avril 2014 à 16:02 -0400, Richard Stallman a écrit : > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Thi

Re: Distribution Naming System (Was: Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3)

2014-04-07 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] The basic point of your message is a variant of a FAQ, http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-lin

Re: Distribution Naming System (Was: Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3)

2014-04-06 Thread Alberto Ruiz
As much as I would like to call this thread off and stop the off topic trend, I can't help but get this out of my chest: Richard, I think you should think about why GNU got itself in such situation, the GNU project failed to build a brand and communicate an appealing message, Linux built a great b

Re: Distribution Naming System (Was: Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3)

2014-04-06 Thread Richard Hughes
On 3 April 2014 19:18, Richard Stallman wrote: > That's true. Most distros do not recognize that this system is > basically GNU; they give the credit for the GNU Project's work > to Mr Torvalds, rather than to us. By calling it Linux, I'm also not recognizing the work of the Apache foundation. I

Re: Distribution Naming System (Was: Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3)

2014-04-04 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] By calling it Linux, I'm also not recognizing the work of the Apache foundati

Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3

2014-04-04 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] As many people on this list know, I too prefer the term GNU/Linux, and it's

Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3

2014-04-04 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] the name of distributions and whether or not it conforms to the requests of t

Re: Distribution Naming System (Was: Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3)

2014-04-03 Thread Ali/amjjawad
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > I have done a

Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3

2014-04-03 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
okay, can we please stop this pointless thread on foundation-list? the name of distributions and whether or not it conforms to the requests of the GNU project has nothing to do with the GNOME project or the GNOME Foundation. if you want to propose a name change, or want to raise the issue of the

Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3

2014-04-03 Thread Yosef Or Boczko
Btw, in the name of my system there is GNU/Linux credit: $ uname -a Linux yoseforb 3.14.0-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Apr 1 23:08:28 CEST 2014 x86_64 GNU/Linux Regards, Yosef Or Boczko בתאריך ה', אפר 3, 2014 בשעה 9:06 PM, Karen Sandler כתב: On 2014-04-03 04:28, Ali/amjjawad wrote: > Arch is

Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3

2014-04-03 Thread Karen Sandler
On 2014-04-03 04:28, Ali/amjjawad wrote: Arch is a variant of the GNU/Linux system, so please let's not call it "Arch Linux".  Calling the whole system "Linux" is, in effect, giving Torvalds credit for our work, so we get no credit for it. See http://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html [1] and

Re: Distribution Naming System (Was: Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3)

2014-04-03 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] I have done a quick search on the 'active' distributions on DistroWatch.com a

Distribution Naming System (Was: Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3)

2014-04-03 Thread Ali/amjjawad
Dear Mr. Stallman, First of all, it is a pleasure to be with you on the same mailing list. You have my full respect! On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:52 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution again

Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3

2014-04-03 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] That logic, if followed to its end, "If followed to its end" usually means "if I

Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3

2014-04-02 Thread Mathieu Duponchelle
That logic, if followed to its end, means Fedora is giving no credit to GNU or Linux. If a high-level application needed to cite all its components in its name, that could be inconvenient. I wouldn't call ArchLinux's name an error personally but hey :) On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Richard St

Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3

2014-04-02 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] This mean, there is an ArchLinux system, which is a GNU/Linux system, not onl

Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3

2014-04-01 Thread Yosef Or Boczko
I agree about the term of GNU/Linux, but the problem is I can't change the name of an exist distribution. This mean, there is an ArchLinux system, which is a GNU/Linux system, not only Linux system, but the name is still ArchLinux. To say "the ArchLinux distribution, GNU/Linux system" is too lon

Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3

2014-04-01 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Arch is a variant of the GNU/Linux system, so please let's not call it "Arch Linux".