Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

I met a few people helping out with Wikimania, including the lead photographer on site, who got involved with the local Wikimedia community after their photostream was found on Flickr and incorporated into Wikipedia (es:wp)... Discovering your work has been used by someone else is always a nice ic

Re: [Foundation-l] open IRC meeting w/ Wikimedia Trustees: this Friday, 1800 UTC

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Michael Snow wrote: > Thomas Dalton wrote: >> 2009/9/8 Gregory Maxwell : >> >>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Michael Snow wrote: >> The announcement makes it clear this is intended for the new board >> members introduce themselves to the community and have a chat

Re: [Foundation-l] Do we have a complete set of WMF projects?

On 9/8/09, Brian wrote: > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > > > 2009/9/8 Michael Peel : > > > What could be the cause of this recent dearth of new projects? > > > > Certainly the process for getting a new project underway is so complex > > and exhausting that it's not som

Re: [Foundation-l] Moderate this list

This is effectively the only cross-project list at the moment. And it is the canonical place to raise certain important issues and announcements. It has become popular to disparage this list as a poor place to have serious discussions about the foundation -- and to do the disparaging in private,

Re: [Foundation-l] Use of moderation

I agree with Tim's initial points. On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Tim Starling wrote: > David Gerard wrote: >> wine-users - http://forum.winehq.org/ > > If you allow posting via email, then you lose the ability to properly > authenticate those posts. If you allow receiving of the full content N

Re: [Foundation-l] Use of moderation

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Brian wrote: > > Some of us feel that the foundation has become out of our reach. > That no matter how much we discuss and try to reach consensus it will just be > too > hard, Is this related to the foundation per se? This is just a difficulty of large scale con

Re: [Foundation-l] Use of moderation

Tisza, this is very well put. On 9/11/09, Tisza Gergő wrote: > - the discussion space is divided by time, not by topic. What little > topic-based Yes. put another way, 'there is no natural namespace to fill and revise over time as all useful discussions are traversed' > - the moderation is

Re: [Foundation-l] Do we have a complete set of WMF projects?

I find projects to build large catalogs interesting; many of these are simply not done well online. If you have a free catalog, you can visaulize its elements on a map / with search; add reviews and images and comments to what was previously uncommentable. Some potential catalogs: Organizations

Re: [Foundation-l] Expert board members - a suggestion

I always read Domas's posts, because they raise my spirits :) On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Domas Mituzas wrote: > > Now, for those who fail at reading comprehension, let me point out to > the report from ED to board: > "a desire to defer equipment purchases while various donations and > spons

Re: [Foundation-l] Expert board members - a suggestion

Looks like a Nov spike, but such a steady rise in year to year traffic that the next Jan is already higher... was that similar last year? On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Domas Mituzas wrote: >> >> Cool; what's the best way to observe the high water mark, and how the >> systems are holding up? >

Re: [Foundation-l] Do we have a complete set of WMF projects?

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Pharos wrote: > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Michael Snow wrote: >> John Vandenberg wrote: >>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Brian wrote: >>> I propose expanding the notion of the Wikimedia Incubator to include entirely new projects that are very

Re: [Foundation-l] new list summary (and RSS question)

Nice! On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 3:02 PM, phoebe ayers wrote: > > And a questions: I've gotten a couple requests for an RSS version of > the LSS updates. What would the most useful way to do this be? An LSS blog (LSS2RSS!) once a fortnight would suit me just fine. SJ _

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF decommissions servers

That is lovely; thanks for the announcement, mike. sj On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Mike.lifeguard wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello, > > I wanted to let folks know that WMF is decommissioning some 35 servers, > and is willing to accept requests from users in

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Office Move

Repatriate the Usability Team - very nice. That looks like a lovely part of town. Thanks for the update, Daniel. Someone should tell the story of how it was scouted just in the nick of time... SJ On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Daniel Phelps wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I'd like to announce

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Office Move

I'm sure Erik has been dying for the chance to run multilingual rcbirds in a corner with some custom west-coast birdcalls On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Liam Wyatt wrote: > and, in terms of data displays I've always been a fan of WikipediaVision > http://www.lkozma.net/wpv/index.html and

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcement: Jennifer Riggs leaves Wikimedia

Thank you for this announcement, though I am sorry to hear it. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Sue Gardner wrote: > Here's an example: As you know, we have long wanted to create a > program making grants to volunteers -- both to chapters and individual > Wikimedians.  Erik and I launched the ch

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcement: Jennifer Riggs leaves Wikimedia

Hi Steve, On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:19 AM, stevertigo wrote: > > Keep in mind that the "Wiki" way of doing things was never about > putting responsibility on just one or few shoulders. That's a good point. > I simply mean > that if it's a matter of brainstorming, organizing, qualitative > prior

[Foundation-l] Is the FCC becoming the Free Culture Collaborative?

Genachowski is a gem. Thanks for the heads-up, Mike! -- Forwarded message -- From: Mike Godwin Subject: FCC Chair Julius Genachowski praises Wikipedia in speech today "And let us not forget that the open Internet enables much more than commerce. It is also an unprecedented plat

Re: [Foundation-l] Report to the Board July 2009

Thank you, Sue. I always save these to read when I need a pick-me-up, and it's nice to have them out in time for comments to be relevant to this current month's plans. Questions/comments inline. > I've been holding up release of this report, waiting on comScore data. That's the least time-crit

Re: [Foundation-l] Priorities and opportunities

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > with assessment spreadsheets and standardized project briefs Do you have links for these? > Of course separately from setting priorities, there's the critical > need to improve our ability to execute upon those priorities. This > includes

Re: [Foundation-l] Priorities and opportunities

On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Philippe Beaudette wrote: > > On Sep 26, 2009, at 9:32 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > >> Do you think we will be in a position to run a second usability >> project of similar scope, two years from now, entirely from within the >> community?

Re: [Foundation-l] Announce: Brion moving to StatusNet

Brion, thank you for your tremendous work, enthusiasm, and grace, and congratulations on your new job. StatusNet will be lucky to have you, and I hope this means among other things that we will see better integration of real-time communication into platforms such as wikis. On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 a

Re: [Foundation-l] Charity Navigator rates WMF

The ratio of overhead to other expenses isn't always a great meter stick, as Erik mentions. Nevertheless, one extraordinary aspect of Wikipedia and siblings is how high the efficiency of its core project work is by that measure: 100 billion views / 100 million edits a year, for $3M in hardware and

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia meets git

That sounds like a great idea. I know a few other people who have worked on git-based wikis and toyed with making them compatible with mediawiki (copying bernie innocenti, one of the most eloquent :). SJ On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Joshua Gay wrote: > > I will apply for an account when I

Re: [Foundation-l] RFC: A Wikipedia/etc.-like Web Directory (e.g: dmoz.org, the old dir.yahoo.com , etc)

Hello Shlomi, Like most perennial ideas, there is certainly value in this one. There are two big wikis that do this that you might take a look at to hone your ideas (you might even suggest changes to them directly): http://www.wikiindex.org/WebsiteWiki (german, 1M sites) http://www.wikiindex.or

Re: [Foundation-l] Sue Gardner nominated for HuffPost media game-changer of the year

That should be Tina Brown :-)My fingers must have been listening to Proud Mary in the background.SJ On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Philippe Beaudette < pbeaude...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Tina and Katie who? > > :) > > > On Oct 29, 2009, at 7:12 PM, Samuel J Klein wrote: > > > Along wi

Re: [Foundation-l] Office move completed

Thanks. I was looking for this great graphic earlier for a presentation; it's a nice example of what collaboration on an image can look like. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikisymbols.png On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Casey Brown wrote: > On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Samuel J K

Re: [Foundation-l] Font support for our domains

Gerard, I don't think we currently register wikipedia.cn or 维基百科.cnor 维基百科.org . When the new ICANN policies are in place, as I understand it, there will be four new domains possible: wikipedia.c?n

Re: [Foundation-l] RFC: A Wikipedia/etc.-like Web Directory (e.g: dmoz.org, the old dir.yahoo.com , etc)

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:23 PM, David Goodman wrote: > We can do it right. > We can do it free of advertising. We can do it verified. We can do it > multi-national. We can do it in a single large open community. We can > do it without the uncertainty of city wikis, with their small > contributo

Re: [Foundation-l] Font support for our domains

guage codes we use in front of " > wikipedia.org" need to be transcribed. > Thanks, > GerardM > > 2009/10/31 Samuel Klein > > > Gerard, > > > > I don't think we currently register wikipedia.cn or > > 维基百科.cn <http://xn--3

Re: [Foundation-l] How to make a puzzle globe

That is delicious. Maker communities have such good energy. I particularly like the look on the face of the hand-painter. Was there ever a writeup from the puzzlemakers who produced the 3" 3D-JP puzzleballs, or the large one from Taipei? (were more of those puzzleballs made?) It would also be

Re: [Foundation-l] Recent firing?

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Anthony wrote: > > I fail to see how this is contrary to the mission of the Wikimedia > Foundation to "empower and engage people around the world to collect > and develop educational content under a free license or in the public > domain, and to disseminate it effe

Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation-l open for business, with changes

You have my thanks as well. I have found the topics and 'signal' on f-l recently quite good reading; less noise will make the whole experience a pleasure again (and hopefully will bring back voices that have temporarily left). SJ On 11/14/09, John Vandenberg wrote: > On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 2:2

Re: [Foundation-l] Update on the fund raiser.

This is the sort of gem that sometimes appears on Meta that makes me glad one can still browse a day's worth of RecentChanges in a couple of minutes. I love the active work and updates from the folks working on the campaign over the past week -- thank you, Erik and Rand and everyone else staying

[Foundation-l] Fwd: Fundraiser End of day Monday Update

A fundraising update, forwarded from internal with Rand's permission. These regular updates are great (you could start your own topical wiki 'zine with them). --SJ -- Forwarded message -- From: Rand Montoya Date: Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:46 PM Subject: [Internal-l] Fundraiser E

Re: [Foundation-l] Usability Study Round Two

Hi Parul, The full report is fascinating. I can't wait to see the full videos once they've been annotated by a few viewers! Something I've been wrestling with recently, in working with ppl who have the option to use mediwiki or other tools for collaborating on text and ideas, is: - what do pe

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Fan History joining the WMF family

Laura, Thanks for your work on the proposal. I hadn't looked at fanhistory in any detail before, and enjoyed discovering it's lifecycle through your blog. On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:51 PM, John Vandenberg wrote: > > I may not have time to respond to your comments in detail, but I think > it is

Re: [Foundation-l] WSJ on Wikipedia

I agree that we need to recover from overly strict policies, treating newbies the same way we treat veteran editors, and a sense that there's no downside to quick deletion or aggressive "OBEY " messages. To general ease of use: Sue writes: > Basically, there are a lot of people who would like to

Re: [Foundation-l] Follow up: Fan History joining the WMF family

Thanks for this repost, Laura. I don't know where 18 months comes from, but it is much much too long :-) It might be more accurate to say that our project proposal process is broken, and we simply need to fix it. The Meta process for requesting a new project is what I have in mind. As philip

[Foundation-l] Fwd: Which online communty-building tools work in a crisis?

Here's some very anecdotal data from people involved in CrisisCamps around the country about which collaborative tools they'd found useful over the past couple of weeks. Wikis: used second-most, after phones; reviewed most positively. SJ Subject: [CrisisCamp

Re: [Foundation-l] the Foundation

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 3:56 PM, phoebe ayers wrote: > All: I still think we need an announcements list, so people who are > curious about Wikimedia goings-on don't have to put up with f-l ! That's a good idea. It could be synchronized with an announcements page on each wiki, since a lot of edi

Re: [Foundation-l] Great news! Google gives Wikimedia USD 2 million

Congratulations to the foundation team for the work that went into this! On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 9:37 PM, James Alexander wrote: > That is amazing! Congrats guys! It actually seems quite surprising to me to > see such a large gift be totally unrestricted when most gifts of this size < always seem

Re: [Foundation-l] Right to left support for Mobile MediaWiki

I finally took a look at this: it is most excellent. On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > > As always, we need your help to help people find their way to Wikipedia it > does not take much to improve things for the mobile.. > Thanks, >     GerardM > > PS languages like Malayal

Re: [Foundation-l] Discussion about proposal for multilingual Wikibooks

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:21 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: > According to the Language proposal policy, Language committee may approve > just a project which intends to be written in one language. True, the language sub committee is asked to attend to details about specific languages; we need a simila

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikiversity

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:14 AM, William Pietri wrote: > > Global blocking doesn't require imposition from above. It could be done > cooperatively, without any community ceding jurisdiction. > > A few examples: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Act > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNSBL > ht

Re: [Foundation-l] Copyrighted maps and Derived works from copyrighted sources.

Mike, Thank you for starting this thread. The most important point, from my perspective, is that the policies on OSM and Wikipedia are not compatible, in a way that makes geodata from Wikipedia time-consuming or impossible for some OSM editors to use. We should certainly see how we can align pol

Re: [Foundation-l] Copyrighted maps and Derived works

On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 2:21 AM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > Дана Thursday 01 April 2010 20:30:10 Aude написа: >> There are differences in how data (incl.    map data) is treated under >> US law and how UK/European law treat data and data collections/databases >> >> Wikipedia is operates under US cop

Re: [Foundation-l] 2010 Fundraising Survey

It's great to see this back underway. What was the three-day online focus group like? I would be particularly interested in data such as First awareness - when did donors first hear about wikipedia / first use the project? - when did they find out that it was run by a non-profit? - when did they

Re: [Foundation-l] Copyrighted maps and Derived works

On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 7:36 AM, geni wrote: > On 2 April 2010 08:15, Samuel Klein wrote: >> Someone on the OSM threads commented that they make an effort to be >> 'whiter than white' when it comes to observing all possible legal >> nuances.  And it occurs to me tha

Re: [Foundation-l] [Announcement] Philippe Beaudette becomes Head of Reader Relations

I said this in person, but congratulations, Philippe -- great news! It is good to see great contractors become full-time staff. Mike.lifeguard writes: On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, Sue Gardner wrote: >> As I'm sending this, I'm wondering: have we actually started an >> announce-only list? > > +1 for that

Re: [Foundation-l] Possible project

Hello Ram, This is the right list, to the extent that one exists. It is hard to answer a question this abstract. In general, Wikimedia hosts Projects that help people collaborate on free knowledge, and software, scripts and other tools related to those Projects (say, on our toolservers). We are

Re: [Foundation-l] Possible project

Ram, thanks for sharing your interesting project. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Platonides wrote: > >> Librelist is a free as in freedom mailing list site for open source >> projects. It is a place for FOSS communities to discuss all the things they >> want without ads, censorship, signup requ

Re: [Foundation-l] Possible project

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Chad wrote: > > Over the years, I've seen two general approaches to trying to launch > a new Wikimedia site. The first is trying to come up with a *new* idea > for a wiki. They start discussion on here or meta and typically it dies > out because people lose intere

Re: [Foundation-l] How to make unstoppable petty complaint a feature?

David - Great idea. I do think this should become a feature, though it's currently seen as a bug. We could start with a sexier year-round feedback process, that captures what page you are looking at when you leave feedback and lets you browse / rate the feedback of others, would certainly be hel

Re: [Foundation-l] inadequate frame Re: Statement on appropriate educational content

Wow, I go offline for half a day and all commons breaks loose... Why have in-use artworks been deleted? Even the strongest versions of the proposed policy that Jimbo started at Commons:Sexual_content explicitly supports art and illustrations. On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Kim Bruning wrote:

Re: [Foundation-l] Jimbo's Sexual Image Deletions

David, This is an excellent list of principles, which I strongly support. Projects generally have standards of notability, which is equivalent to "significant" informative or educational value, otherwise they fill up with cruft. A lack of sufficient notability standards for media not in use on a

Re: [Foundation-l] Jimbo's Sexual Image Deletions

Marcus writes: > I try to understand what happened... > > > * Larry Sanger informs media about us alleging Wikimedia of hosting porn. [unaffirmed] He just made a lot of noise, and some media picked it up. > * The (conservative) TV station FOX reports about Wikimedia and > contacts many important

Re: [Foundation-l] Jimbo's Sexual Image Deletions

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Andrew Garrett wrote: > On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: >> How can you call this 'affirmed'?  Jimbo has made strong suggestions, >> but it is the Commons community that must create and enforce its own >> po

Re: [Foundation-l] Statement on appropriate educational content

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Ting Chen wrote: > Commons, Wikiquote and Wikisource has by themselves no educational > value. They gain their educational value in the way that they provide > repositories for the other WMF projects. Hold on, now. These are all awesome educational projects in th

Re: [Foundation-l] Jimbo's Sexual Image Deletions

> Marcus wrote: >> Creating a technical solution like that is the task of the foundation. >> The _real_ task of the foundation. Cimon wrote: > "Lot of momentum around the idea", is currently most > persistently promoted by the same precise individual > who began the "ethical breaching experiment"

Re: [Foundation-l] Jimbo's Sexual Image Deletions

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 3:14 AM, John Vandenberg wrote: > On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 5:14 PM, John Vandenberg wrote: >> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: >>> Wedrna, later: >>>> The *ONLY* rating and classification system that I can support >>

Re: [Foundation-l] Reflections on the recent debates

On Fri, May 7, Noein wrote: > I'm powerless. Am I? I think many of us are having these very questions > now. Is it good for the WMF that we're asking them? Eloquence is power. And it is good that you are asking. On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Noein wrote: > I agree with Mike Godwin that thi

Re: [Foundation-l] Appropriate surprise (Commons stuff)

Thank you Greg, for this brilliant and personal overview. Very helpful. A few thoughts: On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > > Why might a super-abundance of explicit images be a problem? > (1) They potentially bring the Wikimedia sites into ill repute  (it's > just a big po

Re: [Foundation-l] Board members positions toward Jimmy's last action

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 6:23 AM, David Gerard wrote: > On 9 May 2010 07:30, Samuel J Klein wrote: > >> Perish the thought.  The Board is not controlling content - I >> would oppose any Board action that did so. < >> The Board does not support this - although individuals may -  it >> is not the rol

Re: [Foundation-l] It Has Begun Re: Appropriate surprise (Commons stuff)

Hi, Kim. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Kim Bruning wrote: > En.wp has moved -and the motion seems likely to carry- that all images > deleted by Jimmy Wales on commons be reuploaded to en.wikipedia. That discussion was started over a day ago; now that images which were in use elsewhere are bei

[Foundation-l] pediapress in English... and in hardcover?

Lost in the recent email flood: pediapress is fully working for English. http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/06/wikipedia-and-pediapress-now-allow-you-to-create-books-from-content-in-english/ Does anyone have photos of prototype hardcover books? Sam. ___ fo

Re: [Foundation-l] Removing questions about me and my role from this discussion

Mike.lifeguard writes: > I think you'll find that whenever you want to have something done that > should actually be done there will be no problem convincing > community members to do it... I think this will make folks > much more comfortable in accepting your guidance. Just so. Thank you, Jimbo.

Re: [Foundation-l] Sexual Imagery on Commons: where the discussion is happening

Hi Przykuta, On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Przykuta wrote: > > We need to talk as Wikimedia Community. There is no authority without > communication - face to face(s); keyboard to keyboard. < > Maybe the best way will be to start special IRC debate - about past, present > and future. (and aga

Re: [Foundation-l] Jimbo's Sexual Image Deletions

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 6:43 PM, THURNER rupert wrote: > i might be wrong, but wasn't it _very_ important to have a clear > separation of concerns? Whether or not this is legally important, it is socially essential. > on the other hand, i consider jimbo trying it and proving that it > finally fa

Re: [Foundation-l] Jimbo's Sexual Image Deletions

Hello Elias, Welcome to the mailing list. On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Elias Gabriel Amaral da Silva wrote: > 2010/5/9 Andreas Kolbe : > (..) >>> board to do things is to give guidance to the communities. But, this >>> topic is already pending for years. Looking back into the archives of >>

[Foundation-l] Open Wikimedia meeting on IRC: Wednesday, 1900 UTC in #wikimedia

Hello, I think it would be good to have an open meeting (or a few) to discuss the wider Wikimedia community, project governance, and recent issues on Commons and Meta. Przykuta suggested an IRC meeting soon. For those who are available, please join us in #wikimedia on Wednesday, at 1900 UTC. (f

Re: [Foundation-l] Open Wikimedia meeting on IRC: Wednesday, 1900 UTC in #wikimedia

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > For those who are available, please join us in #wikimedia on > Wednesday, at 1900 UTC.  (for those who dislike IRC, there's a link * on the page below to a webclient you can use to connect.) > For everyone, please

Re: [Foundation-l] (fwd) Wikimedia Foundation will engage academic experts and students to improve public policy information on Wikipedia

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:09 PM, John Vandenberg wrote: > It would be nice if public policy documents were systematically > archived onto Commons and Wikisource as part of this initiative. Yes! Likewise for legal and policy documents in all geographies -- we should make every effort for this pro

Re: [Foundation-l] Spectrum of views (was Re: Sexual Imagery on Commons: where the discussion is happening)

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:06 PM, David Gerard wrote: > By the way, there appears to be an assumption - on the part of board > members, the WMF and some contributors to this thread - that Commons > has been somehow indiscriminate in what it accepts. I don't read that. What I see is a debate abo

Re: [Foundation-l] Spectrum of views (was Re: Sexual Imagery on Commons: where the discussion is happening)

Tim, thank you for this excellent post. A few comments: Tim Starling writes: > it's only the libertarians who value educational value above > moral hazard I don't really agree with this. Contributors from across your spectrum consider whether potentially-harmful information about a person is

Re: [Foundation-l] Funny news from Poland

On Thursday, May 13, 2010, Pavlo Shevelo wrote: > Well, he might turn it another way: > He checked in person whether no real state secret is presented to > public in that article :) > > ... or (making some good PR for Wikimainia ;) ) that he checked > himself whether article is good enough as Wiki

Re: [Foundation-l] Sexual Imagery on Commons: where the discussion is happening

On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > This post by David does prove that it is possible to argue, with intellectual > integrity, that there are more important things at stake than getting Commons > into schools. Yes. All of our core principles are designed to maximize the lon

Re: [Foundation-l] Sexual Imagery on Commons: where the discussion is happening

I continue to be inspired by the quality of discourse in this debate. Noein, I appreciate all of the points you make below, but want to call out one in particular: > My current vision is that there are several main obstacles to a free > interaction, for example: > - - illiteracy > - - no internet

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

Vector is lovely, and continues to grow on me for browsing. Thank you to everyone who has worked on it! On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Jay Walsh wrote: > The first major change you'll see is a slightly different looking > Wikipedia puzzle globe. Over a year ago the Foundation began to It'

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Casey Brown wrote: > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: >> Is there a page on Meta for discussing the new logo?  Among other >> things, we need somewhere to discuss progress on localizing the new >> logo into different l

Re: [Foundation-l] FYI: Wikipedia, Open Access and Cognitive Virology

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 1:45 PM, William Pietri wrote: > Of course, if somebody, those folks included, think they can build a > better encyclopedia, I'd encourage them to try. And I don't mean that in > a snotty way; it would be useful to Wikipedia to have some serious > competition. Just this we

Re: [Foundation-l] Spectrum of views (was Re: Sexual Imagery on Commons: where the discussion is happening)

To Robert's point below, I would appreciate a serious discussion on Commons, grounded in this sort of precedent, about what a special concern and stronger justification for inclusion might look like. An OTRS-based model release policy? How does one prove that one really is the photographer / the

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a BadIdea, part 2

Gregory Maxwell writes: >> Imagine that someone cleaning your office took your important >> paperwork and dumped it in a bin. You complain— "Hey we need that >> stuff to be accessible!" and they retort "Thank you for your >> _feedback_. We'll consider it during our future cleaning plans". >> >> W

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 10:20 PM, John Vandenberg wrote: > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 5:48 AM, Aryeh Gregor > wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: >>> Who cares if people click them a lot?  The space they formally >>> occupied is filled with nothing now. >> >> Interface cl

[Foundation-l] Translation Memory wikiprojects

erating. If not, we should consider starting one. SJ -- Samuel Kleintwitter:metasj w:user:sj ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

Right. Erik writes: > I would suggest the following approach: < 1) That we return to the default-expanded state for now... < 2) That we prototype the system above... > < by implementing 1), we can do 2) on a timeline that makes sense without a false urgency. +1 SJ --

[Foundation-l] Open Wikimedia meeting on IRC: Thursday, 1700 UTC in #wikimedia

There will be another open meeting tomorrow on IRC. For those who are available, please join us in #wikimedia at 1700 UTC. (There's a link to a web-based client you can use.) All are welcome to add discussion topics. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_meetings#June_17.2C_2010 I also clea

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: WikiLeaks inspired "New media haven" proposalpasses Parliament

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Michael Snow wrote: > If it's in the US, wouldn't it be a data center? (I'm mildly > disappointed to discover that the Meta pages on the "guerilla UK > spelling campaign" and the "gorilla US spelling campaign" were deleted > some time ago... We still have their le

Re: [Foundation-l] Open Wikimedia meeting on IRC: today, 1700 UTC / 1300 EST in #wikimedia

Reminder: this is starting in a few minutes, and will run until 1830 UTC. SJ On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > There will be another open meeting tomorrow on IRC. > > For those who are available, please join us in #wikimedia at 1700 UTC. >  (There's a li

Re: [Foundation-l] Floating a notion: permanent Wikimania committee?

Hello, I had the pleasure of spending this past Monday in Tel Aviv, speaking at the Israeli Wikipedia Academy. (More about that in a bit -- the support for Wikipedia and wikis in general among universities there remains extremely strong.)We talked about next year's Wikimania over dinner. On

Re: [Foundation-l] Donation of Encyclopedic Entries on Famous Poems

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Jeffrey Peters <17pet...@cardinalmail.cua.edu> wrote: > Dear List, > > My name is Jeffrey Peters, a professional researcher who is currently > working on my dissertation (dealing with Romantic poetry) and in addition > Masters in Classical Lit. I am writing to you t

Re: [Foundation-l] English language dominationism is striking again

for it anyways if it's all written in a language they don't >>> understand. >>> >>> m. >>> >>> ___ >>> foundation-l mailing list >>> foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikisource and reCAPTCHA

ederic_Shoberl_-_Persia.djvu/92 > > Mike > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Reconsidering the policy "one language - one Wikipedia"

Hi Milos, On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > Writing dumb articles because of thinking that children are dumb is > dumb. And not just dumb, but deeply ageist and discriminatory. I don't think that either simplified or children's projects should be "dumbed down". Ottava's es

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikisource and reCAPTCHA

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 11:16 AM, James Forrester wrote: > On 24 June 2010 15:37, Samuel Klein wrote: >> I love those proofreading features, and the new default layout for a >> book's pages and TOC.  Wikisource is becoming AWESOME. > > Ahem. Even more awesome, you mea

Re: [Foundation-l] Reconsidering the policy "one language - one Wikipedia"

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > The fact that 10 years old child probably doesn't know what density > means, doesn't mean that she or he can't read about that on > encyclopedia. Of course. Children who specialize in a topic often make excellent teachers, and sometimes feat

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikisource and reCAPTCHA

Andre, this is a great summary -- I've linked to it from the english ws Scriptorium. Do you see opportunities for the two projects to coordinate their wofklows better? SJ On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Andre Engels wrote: > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: &

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikisource and reCAPTCHA

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 5:49 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: > Andre, this is a great summary -- I've linked to it from the english > ws Scriptorium. > > Do you see opportunities for the two projects to coordinate their > wofklows better? ^^^ Clearly this email needed 1 more rou

Re: [Foundation-l] PG

> Klaus Graf > > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj ___ found

Re: [Foundation-l] 2010-11 Annual Plan Now Posted to Foundation Website

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Mike Godwin wrote: > Sam Klein writes: > > I do think there are more risks inherent in this sort of growth than >> are listed in the 'potential risks' section -- for instance, >> "inability to acculturate new staff due to aggressive growth" -- and >> we should be

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