Re: [Foundation-l] open IRC meeting w/ Wikimedia Trustees: this Friday, 1800 UTC

2009-09-08 Thread Michael Peel
On 8 Sep 2009, at 18:46, Samuel J Klein wrote: > Hello, > > We wanted to have a more informal forum for discussing Wikimedia > issues with Board members, so the three new Wikimedia Trustees (Arne, > Matt, and myself) are hosting an open meeting on IRC in #wikimedia > this Friday. > > Where : #wik

[Foundation-l] Do we have a complete set of WMF projects?

2009-09-08 Thread Michael Peel
On 2 Sep 2009, at 12:35, David Goodman wrote: > There is sufficient missing material in every Wikipedia, sufficient > lack of coverage of areas outside the primary language zone and in > earlier periods, sufficient unsourced material; sufficient need for > updating articles, sufficient potentia

Re: [Foundation-l] Do we have a complete set of WMF projects?

2009-09-09 Thread Michael Peel
On 9 Sep 2009, at 00:42, Yann Forget wrote: > Michael Peel wrote: >> ** A few of my favourite examples: WikiJournal, publishing scholarly >> works; > > These works are welcomed on Wikisource, if they are under a free > license, of course. > >> WikiReview, provi

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimania-l] Thank you!

2009-09-15 Thread Michael Peel
On 14 Sep 2009, at 22:47, Tim Landscheidt wrote: > At another conference, the video switched from the camera > viewpoint to the slides back and forth (I do not know wheth- > er that was done while recording or in post-production). Ob- > viously, this requires more manpower but the result was > wo

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising Promotion and Job Opening

2009-09-17 Thread Michael Peel
On 17 Sep 2009, at 17:22, Gregory Kohs wrote: > They are a key constituency in > supporting the financial stream, as every single one of them is > worth 16 or > more "average" donors. This doesn't seem quite right to me. "average" donors may financially be worth less in each donation, but re

Re: [Foundation-l] Charity Navigator rates WMF

2009-10-10 Thread Michael Peel
On 10 Oct 2009, at 00:41, Samuel Klein wrote: > In my experience, high-school teachers were 90/10 anti Wikipedia 3 > years ago, and are slightly in favor of it today. This sort of thing > would be a fascinating survey to run year after year. Does the WMF commission surveys like this? It would s

Re: [Foundation-l] Charity Navigator rates WMF

2009-10-10 Thread Michael Peel
On 10 Oct 2009, at 15:00, geni wrote: > 2009/10/10 Michael Peel : >> >> On 10 Oct 2009, at 00:41, Samuel Klein wrote: >> >>> In my experience, high-school teachers were 90/10 anti Wikipedia 3 >>> years ago, and are slightly in favor of it today.

Re: [Foundation-l] Charity Navigator rates WMF

2009-10-10 Thread Michael Peel
On 10 Oct 2009, at 16:54, Marc Riddell wrote: > on 10/10/09 11:32 AM, geni at geni...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Depends on the school. By being anti-wikipedia you make a statement >> that you insist on a certain quality in your sources. You could view >> it as a form of snobbery "Wikipedia may seem

Re: [Foundation-l] open wikis for chapters....?

2009-12-12 Thread Michael Peel
My viewpoint is: why restrict editing? As Geoffrey and Peachey mentioned, there are some pages that do need protecting, but other than that? A central part of the Wikimedia zeitgeist for me is that anyone can edit. If you restrict editing, then you're removing the ability for non- members t

[Foundation-l] Announcing: Britain Loves Wikipedia

2010-01-28 Thread Michael Peel
Hi all, In case you haven't heard already, "Britain Loves Wikipedia", a free photography scavenger hunt following on from Wiki Loves Art et al., will be taking place in 21 museums and archives across the UK throughout February, and is launching on Sunday at the Victoria and Albert Museum!

Re: [Foundation-l] Sue Gardner, Erik Möller , Wi lliam Pietri: Where is FlaggedRevisions?

2010-03-02 Thread Michael Peel
On 2 Mar 2010, at 01:18, MZMcBride wrote: > You know what sounds toxic? The > claim that a man is "a new resident in the area and a known child > molester." > That's been in one of our articles for months and months; the only > provided > source is a dead link that's part of an advocacy site.

[Foundation-l] Call for Participation - Wikimedia Track at the Open Knowledge Conference/Wikimedia UK AGM 2010

2010-03-09 Thread Michael Peel
For anyone in the UK (or willing to visit the UK ;-) that hasn't seen the below, please take a look. Apologies for the cross-posting. This event is also hosting Wikimedia UK's AGM, so it is fairly important. ;-) Please distribute it to anyone else that you think might be interested. Thanks

Re: [Foundation-l] list o' image donations?

2010-03-16 Thread Michael Peel
Also see the 'content partnerships' page on the Wikimedia UK wiki that I've put together: http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cultural_partnerships/Content_partnerships Additions are welcome. Thanks, Mike On 16 Mar 2010, at 23:33, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > They are not "donations" they are im

Re: [Foundation-l] Welcome to a new board member

2010-04-05 Thread Michael Peel
Hi Bishakha, Welcome! I hope that you enjoy your new role. Could you share a little about your involvement with the Wikimedia projects before this, either as an editor or a reader? Thanks, Mike Peel On 5 Apr 2010, at 15:03, Bishakha Datta wrote: > Thanks, Michael and Ting. > > Look forward t

Re: [Foundation-l] Open Knowledge Conference (OKCon) in London on 24th April 2010

2010-04-20 Thread Michael Peel
Hi all, The Wikimedia UK AGM will also be taking place at this conference. All are welcome - the more the merrier! http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/2010_AGM If you want to vote on the election and motions, then you'll need to be a member - but it's quick and easy to join if you haven't already: h

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Announcement list is active

2010-04-21 Thread Michael Peel
On 21 Apr 2010, at 16:08, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 21 April 2010 05:43, Huib! wrote: >> Participation announcements for Wiki meet-up >> >> I'm sure there is a Wiki meet-up every weekend around the globe, >> posting >> this information to this list will probably spam. People >> interested in

Re: [Foundation-l] Hello world. Update from Berlin.

2010-04-21 Thread Michael Peel
I'm glad to see that the resolved bugs include this one: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23223 Hope you all manage to escape Germany sooner rather than later. Mike On 21 Apr 2010, at 17:43, Philippe Beaudette wrote: > Dear world: Help wanted. Plz send a rowboat and a few paddle

Re: [Foundation-l] Removing questions about me and my role from this discussion

2010-05-09 Thread Michael Peel
On 9 May 2010, at 17:57, Anthony wrote: > On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Jimmy Wales wrote: > >> I've just now removed virtually all permissions to actually do >> things from the "Founder" flag. I even removed my ability to edit >> semi-protected pages! (I've kept permissions related to 'vie

Re: [Foundation-l] Renaming "Flagged Protections"

2010-05-24 Thread Michael Peel
On 24 May 2010, at 07:57, Erik Zachte wrote: > Revision Review is my favorite. It seems more neutral, also less 'heavy' in > connotations than Double Check. > Also Review is clearly a term for a process, unlike Revisions. The downside is that 'Review' could be linked to an editorial review, and

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

2010-06-03 Thread Michael Peel
On 2 Jun 2010, at 22:51, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > A tiny benefit to a hundred > million people wouldn't justify making wikipedia very hard to use for > a hundred thousand Can you justify that the change has now made it very hard for users of those interlanguage links? Given that it's now one cl

Re: [Foundation-l] Creating articles in small wikipedias based on user requirement

2010-06-14 Thread Michael Peel
Is it just me, then, that finds it easier and quicker to read top post replies than to search through large amounts of text to find the response? Inline posting makes sense if you're replying to an email that makes its point in the space of a few lines, but otherwise it seems easier to me to top

Re: [Foundation-l] English language dominationism is striking again

2010-06-23 Thread Michael Peel
On 23 Jun 2010, at 16:23, David Gerard wrote: > Reliance on Google for what is really an essential function for those > who aren't native English speakers is problematic because it's (a) > third-party (b) closed. Same reason we don't use reCaptcha. I always think than not using reCaptcha is a sh

[Foundation-l] Wikisource and reCAPTCHA

2010-06-23 Thread Michael Peel
(Renaming the subject as we've changed topic) On 23 Jun 2010, at 21:31, Mariano Cecowski wrote: > --- El mié 23-jun-10, Michael Peel escribió: > >> I always think than not using reCaptcha is a shame, as it's >> a nice way to get people to proofread text in a rea

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations Sourcing

2012-02-25 Thread Michael Peel
On 25 Feb 2012, at 17:15, Castelo wrote: > In my opinion, and i already pointed that in Meta discussion, Wikipedia is > not the place for original content, but Wikinews can publish the interviews > and the content can be uploaded to Commons so others volunteers can check the > material. Actu

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapter Selected Board Seats - Time for questions

2012-03-03 Thread Michael Peel
Hi all, I'm expecting to be contradicted here, but I have to ask these questions in order to personally understand the politics surrounding this topic. My understanding here (having been subscribed to the chapters mailing list since the start of the chapter-selected WMF board seats - i.e. since

Re: [Foundation-l] Copyright and cakes...

2012-03-05 Thread Michael Peel
Best all around to simply destroy the evidence (by eating it?). ... can this topic end now? Or be moved on-wiki so that it can be filed under WP:SILLY? Thanks, Mike On 5 Mar 2012, at 23:23, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 5 March 2012 23:14, Lodewijk wrote: >> eating the cake would damage the moral

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia domains, SOPA, Godaddy and MarkMonitor

2012-03-10 Thread Michael Peel
Hi Domas, I'd like to see more information here. What activities are MarkMonitor involved in with the 'anti-piracy fight'? Are they involved in filtering all peer-to-peer traffic, or just the traffic that contravenes copyright law? As a domain name supplier, what is their relation to ISPs, and

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia domains, SOPA, Godaddy and MarkMonitor

2012-03-13 Thread Michael Peel
Hello, Thanks MZMcBride for your reply here. On 10 Mar 2012, at 22:32, MZMcBride wrote: > Michael Peel wrote: >> I'd like to see more information here. What activities are MarkMonitor >> involved in with the 'anti-piracy fight'? Are they involved in filtering a

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread Michael Peel
On 14 Mar 2012, at 12:21, Russavia wrote: > Interesting news indeed. > > Lead's one to wonder when WMF will launch it's first printed > encyclopaedia. Perhaps a 2013 Citation Needed edition is in the works? Something like this: http://www.labnol.org/internet/wikipedia-printed-book/9136/ ? (And

Re: [Foundation-l] Draft charter of the Wikimedia Chapters Association

2012-03-18 Thread Michael Peel
Think of this more as the hub of a bicycle wheel with many spokes, rather than a centralised body. A device that makes for quicker progress than walking alone, but isn't a burdensome stone wheel. Having a lightweight central organisation that can keep an eye on what is going on, that can provid

Re: [Foundation-l] Board Resolutions from March 30th 2012

2012-03-30 Thread Michael Peel
"We ask the Executive Director not to allow any additional chapters to payment process, until the Board revisits the framework for fundraising and payment processing in late 2015 in advance of the November 2016 fundraising campaign." This is very disappointing. It's a real shame that chapters as

Re: [Foundation-l] Board Resolutions from March 30th 2012

2012-03-30 Thread Michael Peel
On 30 Mar 2012, at 23:17, Nathan wrote: > Since payment processing is not contemplated as a vector for receiving > funds, either in 2012 or beyond, [citation needed]. Also, [attribution needed]. There are those that are contemplating this, and those that aren't - it's not as clear cut as you im

Re: [Foundation-l] FAQ for fundraising resolutions

2012-04-07 Thread Michael Peel
Hi Phoebe, Thanks for posting this. I've asked a question (OK, three related questions) at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fundraising_and_Funds_Dissemination/Board_FAQ#Why_just_the_four_chapters.3F Thanks, Mike On 5 Apr 2012, at 19:29, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 5 April 2012 19:14, phoebe

[Foundation-l] Sending announcements to this list

2011-08-08 Thread Michael Peel
Hi all, Just to check: I've been assuming of late that everyone that's interested in reading announcements (including things like chapter reports, committee reports and signpost issues) is subscribed to the wikimediaannounce-l mailing list - is that a valid assumption, or should reports continu

Re: [Foundation-l] A Wikimedia project has forked

2011-09-22 Thread Michael Peel
> From: Nikola Smolenski > On 22/09/11 10:12, Andrea Zanni wrote: >> when Sue presented us the Strategic Plan and Wikipedia was all over the >> pages, >> but none of the sister projects. > > I have to say, whenever I make a presentation of Wikimedia and mention > sister projects, all I get is b

[Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia UK report, September 2011

2011-10-20 Thread Michael Peel
Below is the Wikimedia UK monthly report for the period 1 to 30 September 2011. If you want to keep up with the chapter's activities as they happen, please subscribe to our blog, join our mailing list, and/or follow us on Twitter. If you have any questions or comments, please drop us a line on t

[Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia UK report, October 2011

2011-11-18 Thread Michael Peel
Below is the Wikimedia UK monthly report for the period 1 to 31 October 2011. If you want to keep up with the chapter's activities as they happen, please subscribe to our blog, join our mailing list, and/or follow us on Twitter. If you have any questions or comments, please drop us a line on thi

Re: [Foundation-l] The Mediawiki 1.18 image rotation bug on Commons and on all Wikimedia projects

2011-12-12 Thread Michael Peel
> From: David Gerard > > On 12 December 2011 18:18, Erik Moeller wrote: > >> Technically, nothing was "messed up" by the feature. Rather, the >> software previously did not take EXIF rotation into account, and some >> images had incorrect EXIF rotation information to begin with. Those >> images

Re: [Foundation-l] GFDL Q&A update and question

2009-01-16 Thread Michael Peel
On 11 Jan 2009, at 21:46, Erik Moeller wrote: > The GFDL (including prior versions) deals with author names for three > different purposes: > > * author credit on the title page; > * author copyright in the copyright notices; > * author names for tracking modifications in the history section. > .

Re: [Foundation-l] RfC: License update proposal

2009-01-21 Thread Michael Peel
Scenario 1: An article from Wikipedia is used elsewhere (be it on or offline), with a link to the history of the page. The article is subsequently deleted from Wikipedia (e.g. accidentally and irretrievably). Scenario 2: Wikipedia ceases to exist in its current form. Its content is hosted

[Foundation-l] Agreement between WMF and O'Reilly Media about Wikipedia: The Missing Manual on Wikipedia?

2009-01-28 Thread Michael Peel
Hi all, The author of Wikipedia: The Missing Manual, John Broughton, has just uploaded the book to Wikipedia under the GFDL, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Wikipedia:_The_Missing_Manual My reaction when I spotted this was: great, but shouldn't this be on Wikibooks? Part of the author

Re: [Foundation-l] The reality of printing a poster

2009-02-03 Thread Michael Peel
On 2 Feb 2009, at 07:11, Gerard Meijssen wrote: >- When I TELL you that something spoils a picture for me, you > can ignore >this, or you accept this. When I have a framed picture I do not > want the >license printed with it, I do not want a list of authors. I want > a clean >

Re: [Foundation-l] The reality of printing a poster

2009-02-03 Thread Michael Peel
On 3 Feb 2009, at 21:39, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > The change of the license will happen not only for Wikipedia but > for all > projects as I understand things. The change of license can only apply to wiki-created GFDL works, which does not apply to the images. They will remain with th

Re: [Foundation-l] The reality of printing a poster

2009-02-03 Thread Michael Peel
On 3 Feb 2009, at 21:01, Sam Johnston wrote: > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Gerard Meijssen > wrote: >> Hoi, >> The economics of it are such that there is a real fine balance >> between cheap >> and expensive. I positvely hate text on my posters. Printing on >> the back is >> two prints a

Re: [Foundation-l] The reality of printing a poster

2009-02-03 Thread Michael Peel
On 3 Feb 2009, at 21:59, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > Your wish for attribution comes at a monetory cost so the > difference is > negligible. They want their reward for the creation for IP and so > do you. > Thanks, >GerardmM Huh? Where am I asking for money? Depending on the meth

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposed revised attribution language

2009-03-17 Thread Michael Peel
On 16 Mar 2009, at 00:55, Michael Snow wrote: > Can we please drop the nonsense that a URL is "no attribution at > all" in > an offline context? I've made this point before, but URLs do not > suddenly become devoid of meaning just because you're using a medium > where you can't follow a hyperli

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposed revised attribution language

2009-03-20 Thread Michael Peel
On 20 Mar 2009, at 08:57, Tim Landscheidt wrote: > Michael Peel wrote: >> The issue, from my point of view*, is that they do "suddenly become >> devoid of meaning" as soon as those links stop working. This can >> happen for a number of reasons, including a

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposed revised attribution language

2009-03-20 Thread Michael Peel
On 20 Mar 2009, at 17:03, Ray Saintonge wrote: > Michael Peel wrote: >> On 20 Mar 2009, at 08:57, Tim Landscheidt wrote: >> >>> Is this problem really exclusive to online references? I'd >>> guess there is plenitude of author references to "[...]

Re: [Foundation-l] depth

2009-03-23 Thread Michael Peel
Perhaps a better thing to quantify is the usefulness, rather than the quality? That is, ask the people reading and using articles how useful the article has been to them? Or, more generally, ask them to rate articles on a scale of 1 to N, where N is e.g. 5. By doing that, you can learn abou

Re: [Foundation-l] Board statement regarding biographies of living people

2009-05-01 Thread Michael Peel
From the Chapters point of view, Berlin is pretty much as central as you can get (restricting locations to those on the surface of the planet!). I don't know the distribution of developers, so can't comment about that. If you look at the board meeting alone, then yes, it would probably mak

Re: [Foundation-l] Long-term archiving of Wikimedia content

2009-05-10 Thread Michael Peel
I don't want to restart this rather long (but very interesting) topic, but I'd like to point out / remind people that a couple of well-placed fires could wipe out most of wikipedia et al. as we currently know it - surely the first priority, before thinking about the real long term, is to so

Re: [Foundation-l] Long-term archiving of Wikimedia content

2009-05-10 Thread Michael Peel
On 10 May 2009, at 22:06, David Gerard wrote: > 2009/5/10 Michael Peel : > >> I don't want to restart this rather long (but very interesting) >> topic, but I'd like to point out / remind people that a couple of >> well-placed fires could wipe out most of wikipe

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not the Karma Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-15 Thread Michael Peel
On 15 May 2009, at 08:01, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > Perhaps this is off-topic, but I wanted to say it for a long time. The > more time passes, the more I wonder if people who work on Wikipedia > have > ever seen an encyclopedia. On Wikipedia, dictionary definitions and > image galleries are for

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not the Karma Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-15 Thread Michael Peel
On 15 May 2009, at 08:36, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > Michael Peel wrote: >> On 15 May 2009, at 08:01, Nikola Smolenski wrote: >> >>> Perhaps this is off-topic, but I wanted to say it for a long >>> time. The >>> more time passes, the more I wonde

Re: [Foundation-l] Google Wave and Wikimedia projects

2009-05-30 Thread Michael Peel
Having just watched the talk/show/discussion/dancing, I agree completely with Steve's comments on wikien-l: On 29 May 2009, at 04:52, Steve Bennett wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_UyVmITiYQ&eurl=http%3A%2F% > 2Fwave.google.com%2F&feature=player_embedded > > (See from about 31:00 onwar

Re: [Foundation-l] Some reflections about the governance of Commons

2009-06-15 Thread Michael Peel
That is more to do with the interface to Commons, as I understand it, rather than the governance of it. Flickr is seen as being much easier to use. I believe that was also the origin of Pikiwiki - essentially creating a better interface to Commons. BTW, to date I've never had a problem with

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Commons: Service project or not?

2009-06-16 Thread Michael Peel
On 16 Jun 2009, at 18:56, Geoffrey Plourde wrote: > Commons is an oddball project. Other projects produce work, but > Commons stores it. Wikisource could be considered another oddball > for the same reason. At this point in time, I would class Commons > as a service project (and wikisource

Re: [Foundation-l] Using Wikisource as an Alternative Open Access Repository

2009-06-27 Thread Michael Peel
On 26 Jun 2009, at 02:08, Samuel Klein wrote: > Wikimedia currently doesn't like files as large as a feature film, or > even a high-def short. (how should we address this? Brion mentioned > something about making video easier to upload in November.) As I understand it, there are three issues wi

[Foundation-l] Wikimedia in the UK

2009-06-29 Thread Michael Peel
What Wikimedia events or activities would you like to see take place in the UK? We're currently trying to pull together ideas for "initiatives" that Wikimedia UK can support, at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Initiatives/Proposals There have been lots of ideas posted at: http://uk.wikimedia.org/

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning IRC office hours

2009-07-21 Thread Michael Peel
The website link states 21st July - so I assume this evening... Mike On 21 Jul 2009, at 10:37, Florence Devouard wrote: > Eugene Eric Kim wrote: >> Hi everybody, >> >> We're still in the process of getting up to speed, but I'm anxious to >> start interacting with more of you and garnering some f

Re: [Foundation-l] Email list archives

2009-08-16 Thread Michael Peel
On 16 Aug 2009, at 03:58, Pavlo Shevelo wrote: >> For me Google Groups do a good job and it's enough. > > Yes, I would support the proposal to look at Google Groups (as > alternative mailing list platform) closer. > As we can see Wikimedia Brasil and Wikimedia UK are using that > platform and per

Re: [Foundation-l] New projects opened

2009-08-23 Thread Michael Peel
On 23 Aug 2009, at 09:50, Bod Notbod wrote: > On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Milos Rancic > wrote: > >> There won't be new lingua franca. ~30 years is now very small amount >> of time for changing behavior of the global society, while it is very >> large amount of time for machine translators

Re: [Foundation-l] Omidyar Network Commits $2 Million Grant to Wikimedia Foundation

2009-08-27 Thread Michael Peel
On 27 Aug 2009, at 03:46, Michael Snow wrote: > Kropotkine_113 wrote: >> Does he fulfill the Nomitanig Commitee selection criterion : >> "Membership >> in the Wikimedia community" ? >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nominating_Committee/ >> Selection_criteria#General_needed_traits >> > Ting al

Re: [Foundation-l] Sakha Wikipedia passed 7000 articles

2010-08-25 Thread Michael Peel
Erm ... huh? 1) If you're interested in helping, and have experience/knowledge of languages, then get involved with the committee. 2) They're getting things achieved - they're fostering the development of new language projects, making decisions, getting the projects started, and doing this in

Re: [Foundation-l] Has Wikipedia changed since 2005?

2010-10-05 Thread Michael Peel
On 5 Oct 2010, at 18:48, wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote: > What is the main point of wikipedia to edit it, or to read it? Because > the readability of something like the Bulger article is very low. Making > it easier to edit with peppered refs will probably mean that more refs > get added m

Re: [Foundation-l] Five-year WMF targets exclude non-Wikipedia projects

2010-10-10 Thread Michael Peel
On 10 Oct 2010, at 11:33, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Despite repeated assurances at Wikimania, on lists and on strategywiki, > that the strategic plan was going to consider all Wikimedia projects as > important, now at > http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Five-year_targets the

Re: [Foundation-l] How to improve quality of Wikipedia?

2010-10-10 Thread Michael Peel
Czesc all, On 10 Oct 2010, at 06:54, Przykuta wrote: > Hi > > In pl wiki "depth" is very weak. We have many edits, like other bigger > Wikipedias, but Ratio is problematical (Non-Articles/Articles). We have not a > lot of non-article pages. Could you help us? Any ideas? > > http://meta.wikime

Re: [Foundation-l] Free speech

2010-10-10 Thread Michael Peel
Hi Peter, On 9 Oct 2010, at 11:15, Peter Damian wrote: > My apologies for the Godwinism. I am a writer, the idea of preventing > someone expressing a viewpoint is reprehensible. Disruption to the project > of building a comprehensive and reliable reference source is one thing. > That is a ma

Re: [Foundation-l] Free culture?

2010-10-19 Thread Michael Peel
On 19 Oct 2010, at 18:44, Mike Dupont wrote: >> I don't think we gain anything by providing a platform for Kohs campaign, >> as illustrated at >> http://www.mywikibiz.com/Top_10_Reasons_Not_to_Donate_to_Wikipedia >> against Wikipedia. > > Wow, this is very well written and interesting! please sh

Re: [Foundation-l] Free culture?

2010-10-19 Thread Michael Peel
On 19 Oct 2010, at 19:06, Mike Dupont wrote: > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Michael Peel wrote: >> >> On 19 Oct 2010, at 18:44, Mike Dupont wrote: >> >>>> I don't think we gain anything by providing a platform for Kohs campaign, >>>&g

Re: [Foundation-l] Page views

2010-10-22 Thread Michael Peel
On 22 Oct 2010, at 02:02, Erik Zachte wrote: > A quick update on our inflated page view stats: > > Ryan's hypothesis that deployment of the new CentralNotice banner > loader had something to do with it has been confirmed. > > So those extra page views were actually internally generated reques

Re: [Foundation-l] Misplaced Reliance, was Re: Paid editing, was Re: Ban and...

2010-10-31 Thread Michael Peel
On 31 Oct 2010, at 23:08, John Vandenberg wrote: > We should be careful with new studies even when published in respected > journals, until the citation count rises to the point that we feel > comfortable that the study has been accepted by the academic > community. The citation count isn't the

Re: [Foundation-l] No, even a couple of Google ads on each page would be a fatally bad idea

2010-11-06 Thread Michael Peel
On 6 Nov 2010, at 17:43, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 6 November 2010 17:07, Liam Wyatt wrote: >> ads there would be able >> to be served in a way that is both relevant to the end-user (based on the >> term being searched for) > > That's a big problem. To use a somewhat clichéd example, we should

Re: [Foundation-l] the annual advertisement discussion

2010-11-06 Thread Michael Peel
On 6 Nov 2010, at 17:46, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 6 November 2010 17:43, Gerard Meijssen wrote: >> Hoi, >> I just checked it again. It is cc-by-sa. > > I don't know what you checked, but that image is released under ND, > not SA. Check the link near the top of this page (that you link to): >

Re: [Foundation-l] No, even a couple of Google ads on each page would be a fatally bad idea

2010-11-06 Thread Michael Peel
On 6 Nov 2010, at 20:54, MZMcBride wrote: > Liam Wyatt wrote: >> Whilst I don't support or advocate for Wikimedia projects including >> advertising, I would like to ask a hypothetical question. Would people's >> opinions towards ads would be different if google's ads were to be >> incorporated ON

Re: [Foundation-l] New projects

2010-11-13 Thread Michael Peel
Fantastic. :-) Semantic issue: these aren't new projects, they're new language versions of existing projects. We haven't had a new project since 2007. Mike On 13 Nov 2010, at 18:51, Milos Rancic wrote: > Our family has got new projects: > > * Wikipedia in Gagauz: http://gag.wikipedia.org/ > *

Re: [Foundation-l] Paid editing comes of age

2010-11-18 Thread Michael Peel
On 18 Nov 2010, at 15:42, Fred Bauder wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 14:09, David Gerard wrote: >>> >>> On 18 November 2010 11:30, Â wrote: >>> Any one signed up yet? http://www.ereleases.com/pr/visibility-wikipedia-easier-43135 >> >> I could find anything wrong in their code of

Re: [Foundation-l] [Commons-l] Wikidata

2010-11-22 Thread Michael Peel
(also including foundation-l as this isn't really a commons-specific discussion) On 22 Nov 2010, at 21:04, Samuel Klein wrote: >> A wikidata project could use semantic mediawiki from the outset, and >> be seeded with data from dbpedia. >> >> A lot of existing & proposed projects would benefit fr

Re: [Foundation-l] [Commons-l] Wikidata

2010-11-22 Thread Michael Peel
On 22 Nov 2010, at 23:17, Brian J Mingus wrote: > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Andrea Zanni wrote: > >>> >>> As it is the first new project in quite a long time, having a WMF >>> staff member assigned to it would be brilliant. >>> As this would/should involve the first deployment of semanti

Re: [Foundation-l] Ring of Gyges

2010-11-30 Thread Michael Peel
On 30 Nov 2010, at 22:53, Fred Bauder wrote: > https://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/30/opinion/30zhuo.html > > Fred > > User:Fred Bauder Unfortunately, comments are disabled/absent, which makes it rather difficult to add my own (non-trolling) thoughts... It's well worth reading this for a general

Re: [Foundation-l] Ring of Gyges

2010-11-30 Thread Michael Peel
On 30 Nov 2010, at 23:53, George Herbert wrote: > Two, nearly all WP users use pseudonymity rather than real names, and > for most people not having their real name attached anywhere gives > them a sense of anonymous empowerment similar to the truly anonymous > trolls seen elsewhere. We see a lo

Re: [Foundation-l] European Commission Green Paper - Copyright in the Knowledge Economy

2008-11-15 Thread Michael Peel
On 14 Nov 2008, at 15:47, geni wrote: > 2008/11/14 teun spaans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Agree. >> >> And perhaps other organizations working with copy left licenses >> could be >> informed? > > > There is nothing in there of any real significance to free licenses. Isn't that something that shou

Re: [Foundation-l] EN Wikipedia Editing Statistics

2008-11-30 Thread Michael Peel
On 30 Nov 2008, at 20:11, Robert Rohde wrote: > On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Erik Zachte > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> English -> English dump >> >>> Because myself and others have been frustrated by the lack of good >>> stats on the number of active editors on the English Wikipedia, I

Re: [Foundation-l] Moving towards a more usable MediaWiki

2008-12-02 Thread Michael Peel
Where did they fail? Did they fail to find a red link to create an article? (those seem to be getting increasingly rare) Could they not find a subject to start a new article on? Were they unable to type text into the appropriate box and submit it? Were they unable to structure the article w

Re: [Foundation-l] Moving towards a more usable MediaWiki

2008-12-02 Thread Michael Peel
ee with you that there are many more pain points. The trick is > to solve > the issues that are easy to solve first. From this we can progress > to a next > issue. > Thanks, > GerardM > > 2008/12/2 Michael Peel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Where did they fai

Re: [Foundation-l] and what if...

2008-12-12 Thread Michael Peel
On 12 Dec 2008, at 10:52, Florence Devouard wrote: > Now, seriously, what is more important right now ? > That citizens can not read one article ? > Or that all the citizens of a country can not edit all articles any > more ? > > I would argue that the content of Wikipedia can be copied and > d

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-16 Thread Michael Peel
On 13 Dec 2008, at 14:02, Platonides wrote: > teun spaans wrote: >> Many times it works well. >> But the procedures also irregularly goes amiss. >> >> I also received deletion messages of a pic i had uploaded with a >> correct >> license. Some wikimedian had accidently removed the license, >>

Re: [Foundation-l] GFDL Q&A update and question

2009-01-08 Thread Michael Peel
On 8 Jan 2009, at 22:16, Thomas Dalton wrote: > > I don't think that's clear at all. I don't know how many authors you > are meant to attribute things to under CC-BY-SA, it may well be all of > them. I need to do more research (or, I need someone to tell me the > answer!). My preference would be: