> if this is true, then we should
> implement a better solution for foundation-level discussions in other
> major language families.
I nominate SJ to translate all emails. I saw him do that before, he's good!
Brion would suggest Esperanto though. You two will have to fight it out.
Domas
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> For all we know we have servers in Hong Kong.
not that I'm aware of :)
Domas
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> priority task being to get the site working again. Maybe at some time
> in the future, we will have enough 24/7 sysadmin manpower that we can
> respond to any unplanned downtime in the way you suggest. But we don't
> have that capability just yet.
In future we will have five nines availability
>
> As you can see it refers to some unknown error. In this case the
> maintentance was known and* pre-planned* for several days.
technically this was unknown problem :)
> A lot of people were confused by the outage and the error page was unhelpful
> to them. This could have been mitigated simp
Hi!
> Huh? The downtime was expected during 13:00 and 14:00 UTC, or at least there
> was an email warning of such things the day before... hardly unplanned or
> unknown.
there's a bit of a difference between maintenance window and expected downtime
during it.
Domas
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Hi!
> The maintenance was planned, downtime was noted as possible. An error
> message that reflects that seems, frankly, a good idea.
There're lots of great ideas around the world, feeding the hungry and curing
the cancer among them.
> The response to what I thought to be a helpful suggestion
Hi!
> That's... completely missing the point. Yes the specific errors faced were
> unexpected or unforseen, BUT they were a* direct result* of the maintenance
> between 13:00 and 14:00. I am simply passing on the feeling of our
> readership; which was that the situation was badly communicated to t
> Wikipedia going down without a temporary explanation page is roughly of the
> same scale as apple.com going down with no explanation, google.com going
> down with no explanation, microsoft.com going down with no explanation, and
> so on.
WHOAH THERE IS QUITE SOME SELF ENTITLEMENT THERE.
Microso
Hi!
> Domas, why so defensive?
I'm contrarian in this case :)
> unfeasible because of the work involved, but you can probably say that
> without all the combative snark.
Well, as with every downtime, there are way more issues* that end up uncovered
and have to be looked at, and yet largest em
Hi!
> Domas your responses are not helpful at all. You are simply stirring the
> pot to no point. Please stop.
You forgot to tell if all of my responses or just some, and if there's really
no point at all, or there might be some.
Anyway, thanks for this helpful contribution!
Domas
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rite an article", it is
way more about "collaborate on it".
And better collaboration tools we need (though MediaWiki even now is
the industry darling for anything like that ;-)
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ause we're frustrated, or because we
want to?
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