Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

Maybe a new system of "incubation" would be helpful. For example, one could start the requested wikis on their future domain (xxx.wikipedia.org / xxx.wiktionary.org etc.pp.) right from the request, with at least two voluntary experienced supervisors on each (one can supervise more than one of these

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

This is of course essentially what we did in the Good Old Days, but somebody (or somebodies?) decided we needed More Rules, so now we have them, and as is often the case with too many rules, they've constricted what was once a free-flowing process and limited almost all new wikis to a very small ge

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

SPQRobin is already working on a extension that will point xxx.wikipedia.org to the right place on Incubator. The first version is already deployed and he showed me the new version on WikiMania. I'm not sure how long it will take, when wmf staff will help him out it will take less time. But a bet

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

Well, that idea also came to my mind (I didn't know that someone is already working on it), but then interwikis wouldn't be possible, would they? I think interwiki links are not unimportant to get native or fluent speakers of a language to a wiki who are currently working on other wikis. If they ar

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

I'm not sure about interwiki's if the project xxx.wikipedia.org/wiki/article will point to incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/wp/xxx/article I guess it would be possible to use the [[:xxx:]] interwiki? Cuz it wouldn't directly point the incubator. So I guess it would be possible... But some changes need

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

This is an improvement in many ways, but how does it help the average user? How are people supposed to know that XYZ code points to XYZ language? Right now we don't have any high-traffic pages pointing to incubator; it seems less likely that say, en.wp main page will link to every single test wiki.

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

There should be a general overview page where all projects are listed with a very short description in the respective languages and a status ("open", "under supervision", "closed", "in preparation" or what else you get), could be hosted on Meta. And this "Wikimedia projects summary" or such can be

[Foundation-l] Intellectual property policy for open organisations

There are an increasing number of organisations which have indicated that their output is Creative Commons by default, however there are not as many that have a public IP policy which clearly allows staff to publish "their" work. i.e. We have moved from the IP policy being the stick used to preven

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

There is a complete list here: http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incubator:Wikis I guess it would be easy to add a status to it... And link the meta pages back to the list. 2011/8/8 Thomas Goldammer > There should be a general overview page where all projects are listed > with a very short des

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

But that only includes wikis hosted on the incubator wiki, right? What about the wikis that already exist? BR Th. 2011/8/8 Huib Laurens : > There is a complete list here: > http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incubator:Wikis I guess it would be easy > to add a status to it... And link the meta pa

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

People probably won't know the ISO codes, but a redirect is the obvious first step. The second might be, if you do a search for "Central Morocco Tamazight" a pointer comes up saying "Are you looking for the projects in this language?" ___ foundation-l m

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

That'd be great, indeed. But if there is an article in enwiki about that language, there is always also a link to the project(s), even if it is in the incubator, example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afar_language (it's near the bottom and on the right edge, though, so one might not see it easily).

Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 89, Issue 13

On 8/8/2011 12:41 AM, foundation-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: > The problem with Incubator: An interactive > journey Written by geeks for geeks... If you are truly serious about enabling new languages & dialects, it is almost mandatory to include a link at the very top level of Wiki

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiConference-India 2011] Oral Citations mentioned in the New York Times

cross-posting _ *Béria Lima* (351) 925 171 484 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer .* On 8 Augus

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Thomas Goldammer wrote: > That'd be great, indeed. But if there is an article in enwiki about > that language, there is always also a link to the project(s), even if > it is in the incubator, example: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afar_language (it's near the bott

[Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia Announcements] Language committee report - July 2011

This one short. The next one will be much longer :) -- Forwarded message -- From: Robin Pepermans Date: Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 23:11 Subject: [Wikimedia Announcements] Language committee report - July 2011 To: the Wikimedia Incubator , wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org See t

The Signpost – Volume 7, Issue 32 – 08 August 2011

News and notes: Wikimania; why Board of Trustees elections attract few votes; brief news http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-08-01/News_and_notes In the news: Consensus of Wikipedia authors questioned about Shakespeare authorship; 10 biggest edit wars on Wikipedia; bri

Re: [Foundation-l] The Signpost – Volume 7, Issue 32 – 08 August 2011

Forgot to change the content? :P 2011/8/9 jarry : > News and notes: Wikimania; why Board of Trustees elections attract few votes; > brief news > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-08-01/News_and_notes > > In the news: Consensus of Wikipedia authors questioned about Sha

The Signpost – Volume 7, Issue 32 – 08 August 2011

News and notes: Wikimania; why Board of Trustees elections attract few votes; brief news http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-08-01/News_and_notes In the news: Consensus of Wikipedia authors questioned about Shakespeare authorship; 10 biggest edit wars on Wikipedia; bri

Re: [Foundation-l] The Signpost – Volume 7, Issue 32 – 08 August 2011

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost Main link goes to the current version. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

[Foundation-l] Sending announcements to this list

Hi all, Just to check: I've been assuming of late that everyone that's interested in reading announcements (including things like chapter reports, committee reports and signpost issues) is subscribed to the wikimediaannounce-l mailing list - is that a valid assumption, or should reports continu

Re: [Foundation-l] Sending announcements to this list

On 9 August 2011 01:24, Michael Peel wrote: > Hi all, > > Just to check: I've been assuming of late that everyone that's interested in > reading announcements (including things like chapter reports, committee > reports and signpost issues) is subscribed to the wikimediaannounce-l mailing > list

The Signpost – Volume 7, Issue 32 – 08 August 2011

[I apologise to everyone for sending the wrong issue before. This was an oversight on my part. This is the correct issue -- Jarry1250.] Wikimania: Seventh annual Wikimedia conference concluded in Haifa, Israel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-08-08/Wikimania News an

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

I have a feeling very, very, very few French speakers find the French Wikipedia through that route. Most people probably find a Wikipedia in their language at http://www.wikipedia.org/ if they don't already know the URL. I doubt many speakers will google "Central Atlas Tamazight Wikipedia" in Engli

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 20:08, Casey Brown wrote: > On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Thomas Goldammer > wrote: >> That'd be great, indeed. But if there is an article in enwiki about >> that language, there is always also a link to the project(s), even if >> it is in the incubator, example: >> htt

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

Yes but again as I said, most people will be looking for their languages on http://www.wikipedia.org/ or in places where interwiki links are usually found. How many out of the 5 million speakers of Central Atlas Tamazight do you think are aware that the ISO code for their language is TZM? Probably

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:13 AM, M. Williamson wrote: > Yes but again as I said, most people will be looking for their languages on > http://www.wikipedia.org/ or in places where interwiki links are usually > found. fwiw, the Wikisource portal lists all languages, inc. the languages in the Wikiso

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 03:13, M. Williamson wrote: > Yes but again as I said, most people will be looking for their languages on > http://www.wikipedia.org/ or in places where interwiki links are usually > found. How many out of the 5 million speakers of Central Atlas Tamazight do > you think are

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 03:25, Milos Rancic wrote: > -- and it is likely that it will be the first result on Google [and > other] search engines. ... for the search "Wikpedia Central Atlas Tamazight" ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wiki

Re: [Foundation-l] Abigor Account

On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 21:03, Huib Laurens wrote: > On WikiMania it was brought to my attention by a user that there is a > account Abigor langcom. He asked me why I created that account... > > Since editting meta is blocked for me, I would like to state here after > asking to a trusted user how I

[Foundation-l] Chapters

I have realized that WMF seems to seriously misunderstand the role of chapters. I say this as someone who has always had a somewhat conservative view of chapters to begin with. But underneath the current rift is a serious disconnect between WMF professionals and how this whole program actually

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 11:39 PM, wrote: > Decentralization isn't some random choice that somehow was attached to this > movement; it is the only way the program functions at all. WMF professionals > can't begin to account for the program work being accomplished by the > movement. Has there been

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

> Nor does off-wiki collaboration require that a formal entity be in > existence. Off-wiki activities -- whether social meetups or more formal > outreach efforts to GLAM institutions and elsewhere -- are no less > effective > for being organized by loose groups of interested participants. So long