Re: [Foundation-l] roadmap for WM affiliation ; a name for self-identified affiliation

2011-07-16 Thread Keegan Peterzell
If I didn't have a heart I would have gone into advertising, specifically for branding. The topic is a long time interest of mine, so here's my amateur opinion with education on the branding world. The success of a brand depends on synching an idea/product with one name. At this point in time, an

Re: [Foundation-l] They do make or break reputations

2011-07-16 Thread Yann Forget
I agree 100% with this. Some people on Wikimedia want to enforce copyright much beyond what is reasonable. This is hurt us, and is outside of our mission. Yann 2011/7/13 Wjhonson : > > Links by themselves are not copyrightable, and are not unfree. > So your argument, which you keep repeating is n

Re: [Foundation-l] They do make or break reputations

2011-07-16 Thread Fred Bauder
There are practices which are beyond the pale, for example, linking to a pirated copy of the latest Harry Potter movie. Linking to the typical YouTube video of unknown provenance is quite another matter; although it is quite true that in both cases there may be a technical copyright violation. In t

Re: [Foundation-l] They do make or break reputations

2011-07-16 Thread Krinkle
Hi all, I haven't fully read the context of this thread, but something that did cross my mind recently, why do we treat YouTube-links different from other links here? Aren't most of our sources and external linked websites atleast as copyrighted as YouTube ? Consider links to IMDb for exam

Re: [Foundation-l] roadmap for WM affiliation ; a name for self-identified affiliation

2011-07-16 Thread Alec Conroy
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Keegan Peterzell wrote: In reply overall-- I definitely agree that Wikipedia is, by far, our strongest brand-- and a very different brand than the one that would be served by a wider unnamed movement. I haven't been anywhere near as ambition to think we could ge

Re: [Foundation-l] roadmap for WM affiliation ; a name for self-identified affiliation

2011-07-16 Thread Neil Harris
On 16/07/11 13:19, Alec Conroy wrote: > On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Keegan Peterzell > wrote: > > In reply overall-- I definitely agree that Wikipedia is, by far, our > strongest brand-- and a very different brand than the one that would > be served by a wider unnamed movement. > > I haven'

Re: [Foundation-l] Putin receives same award as Wikipedia

2011-07-16 Thread Nathan
Looks like the award ceremony has been canceled entirely as a result of the controversy. http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2011/07/16/world/europe/AP-EU-Germany-Russia.html ~Nathan ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscrib

[Foundation-l] roadmap for WM affiliation

2011-07-16 Thread James Heilman
I agree with Keegen's reasoning. We want Wikipedia's name to become more well known which will hopefully attract more editors to the movement. We want to do what coke has done by branding all carbonated drinks with the name coke. Other people are already creating movements such as "Health Informa

Re: [Foundation-l] They do make or break reputations

2011-07-16 Thread Robin McCain
Yes, there are big differences between IMDB and YouTube rightswise. IMDB requires that every submission be reviewed for accuracy and content before acceptance. They are trying to compete with Baseline and want to be seen as an equal - so they (perhaps overzealously even) require that new indie

Re: [Foundation-l] They do make or break reputations

2011-07-16 Thread Andre Engels
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Krinkle wrote: > I haven't fully read the context of this thread, but something that > did cross my > mind recently, why do we treat YouTube-links different from other > links here? > > Aren't most of our sources and external linked websites atleast as > copyrigh

[Foundation-l] Civipedia proposal

2011-07-16 Thread Oliver Moran
Hi, I'm just dropping a line to notify the list of a proposal for a new project. The proposal is to build a wiki-based Citizens' Information portal for every state in the world. The purpose of a Citizens' Information portal is to provide essential and neutral information that is of use to citiz