Re: [Foundation-l] No tail-lights. What do we do now? (was Call for referendum)

2011-07-02 Thread Alec Conroy
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > Ah, but you don't return when you click on a link that exists both on > Wikipedia and another wiki. Not only that, but you miss out on a huge set of features. You can't have shared user account names across wikis, you can't use templates

Re: [Foundation-l] No tail-lights. What do we do now? (was Call for referendum)

2011-07-02 Thread David Gerard
On 1 July 2011 09:27, Alec Conroy wrote: > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: >> On 07/01/2011 09:15 AM, David Gerard wrote: >>> Per HaeB's link, this is a perennial proposal. People like the idea, >>> but in eighteen years - back as far as the Interpedia proposal, before >

Re: [Foundation-l] No tail-lights. What do we do now? (was Call for referendum)

2011-07-02 Thread Alec Conroy
>Why do people want ten Wikipedias to look up instead of one? Why would people want millions of computers instead of just eight? Why would we want terabytes of memory when we could have just 640 kilobytes? When I go to the library, why are there a gazillion books, instead of just "the best book"?

Re: [Foundation-l] Merge wikis

2011-07-02 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
There are much more "meta-wikis" that could be merged: Ziko van Dijk, 02/07/2011 00:14: > But in those sister projects communities, I have met fierce resistance > to any new branding or technical rearrangement.

Re: [Foundation-l] No tail-lights. What do we do now? (was Call for referendum)

2011-07-02 Thread Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis
In order to have many articles on the same topic, you must have a way so that the readers have those articles ranked. This way, the reader would instantly see the article he most trusts, no more effort for the reader. I dont know whether trust is required to be formalized for a small group of deve

Re: [Foundation-l] Merge wikis

2011-07-02 Thread Alec Conroy
> Sometimes templates used on different wikis can be incompatible. > > Fred We really are starting to need a "global template space" for multiwiki, potentially multilingual templates, that can be transcluded into any mediawiki install we want to allow. A "Commons" for templates.

Re: [Foundation-l] Merge wikis

2011-07-02 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hi Nemo, you are not very specific - the discussion on Strategory you are linking to contains a lot of good reasons provided by Dedalus. Indeed, if you talk to the press, or to media experts, they all know "Wikipedia" but not "Wikimedia". The most simple and reasonable way is to use the famous bran

Re: [Foundation-l] Merge wikis

2011-07-02 Thread Alec Conroy
> if you talk to the press, or to media experts, they all know > "Wikipedia" but not "Wikimedia". The most simple and reasonable way is > to use the famous brand, not to invest in "Wikimedia". There's an even bigger opportunity here-- Make a brand new brand name that captures the ideology better

[Foundation-l] CDPedia

2011-07-02 Thread emijrp
Hi; Please, can you add CDPedia[1] (Spanish Wikipedia) to [2]? Thanks, emijrp [1] http://python.org.ar/pyar/Proyectos/CDPedia [2] http://dumps.wikimedia.org/dvd.html ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://li

Re: [Foundation-l] No tail-lights. What do we do now? (was Call for referendum)

2011-07-02 Thread Casey Brown
On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 5:30 AM, David Gerard wrote: > It's like the perennial proposal for multiple article versions on > Wikipedia for each point of view. This solves a problem for the > *writers*, but makes one for the *readers*. They seem to want one > source with one article on a topic, else t

Re: [Foundation-l] CDPedia

2011-07-02 Thread Casey Brown
On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 9:42 AM, emijrp wrote: > Please, can you add CDPedia[1] (Spanish Wikipedia) to [2]? > I think these things are usually requested on Bugzilla so that the people who have the power to do it can find the request. -- Casey Brown Cbrown1023 ___

Re: [Foundation-l] merge wikis

2011-07-02 Thread Robin McCain
It seems silly to proliferate so many wikis when many of them focus on related issues. It becomes the nightmare of having to visit the web site of every user group every few hours vs having all the new posts sent via email to one address so you save time. The real question to me seems to be ho

Re: [Foundation-l] Languages and numbers

2011-07-02 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/7/1 Milos Rancic : > As Russia is fairly developed country, it is likely that reaching people > who speak those languages and teaching them how to use Wikimedia > projects would the task for WM RU. Besides that, I think that all > languages of Russia have writing systems and support in Unicode

[Foundation-l] Fwd: wikiEducation: The Classroom Wikipedia

2011-07-02 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
Forwarded to the list on behalf of a non-member. -- Forwarded message -- From: Jacob Franklin Date: Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 7:39 PM Subject: wikiEducation: The Classroom Wikipedia To: foundation-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org Dear WikiMedia, In recent weeks I have been reading abo

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: wikiEducation: The Classroom Wikipedia

2011-07-02 Thread Fred Bauder
We should do this before some aggressive outfit like Wikinfo jumps in... It wouldn't be an anyone can edit wiki. Only authorized student accounts could edit. It would be a teaching tool. Fred > Forwarded to the list on behalf of a non-member. > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Ja

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: wikiEducation: The Classroom Wikipedia

2011-07-02 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 13:49:58 -0600 (MDT), "Fred Bauder" wrote: > We should do this before some aggressive outfit like Wikinfo jumps in... > It wouldn't be an anyone can edit wiki. Only authorized student accounts > could edit. It would be a teaching tool. > > Fred To do this is not a big deal, bu

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: wikiEducation: The Classroom Wikipedia

2011-07-02 Thread Fred Bauder
> On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 13:49:58 -0600 (MDT), "Fred Bauder" > wrote: >> We should do this before some aggressive outfit like Wikinfo jumps >> in... >> It wouldn't be an anyone can edit wiki. Only authorized student >> accounts >> could edit. It would be a teaching tool. >> >> Fred > > To do this is n

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: wikiEducation: The Classroom Wikipedia

2011-07-02 Thread Isabell Long
Hi, On Sun, Jul 03, 2011 at 12:14:39AM +0400, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 13:49:58 -0600 (MDT), "Fred Bauder" > wrote: > > We should do this before some aggressive outfit like Wikinfo jumps in... > > It wouldn't be an anyone can edit wiki. Only authorized student accounts > >

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: wikiEducation: The Classroom Wikipedia

2011-07-02 Thread Fred Bauder
> Hi, > > On Sun, Jul 03, 2011 at 12:14:39AM +0400, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: >> On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 13:49:58 -0600 (MDT), "Fred Bauder" >> wrote: >> > We should do this before some aggressive outfit like Wikinfo jumps >> in... >> > It wouldn't be an anyone can edit wiki. Only authorized student >

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: wikiEducation: The Classroom Wikipedia

2011-07-02 Thread Isabell Long
Hi, On 2 July 2011 23:28, Fred Bauder wrote: > On 2 July 2011 23:16, Isabell Long wrote: >> >> Sorry to dampen things, but as we're proposing "what if"s, what if some >> of Wikipedia's material was copied to it and it just became a kind of >> duplicate of Wikipedia run, as proposed, by the WMF?

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: wikiEducation: The Classroom Wikipedia

2011-07-02 Thread Fred Bauder
> Hi, > > On 2 July 2011 23:28, Fred Bauder wrote: >> On 2 July 2011 23:16, Isabell Long wrote: >>> >>> Sorry to dampen things, but as we're proposing "what if"s, what if >>> some >>> of Wikipedia's material was copied to it and it just became a kind of >>> duplicate of Wikipedia run, as proposed

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: wikiEducation: The Classroom Wikipedia

2011-07-02 Thread Keegan Peterzell
Fantastic idea. One I'd really like to see put to fruition. I know as a kid I would have taken to the idea immediately. However, considering this is the WMF discussion list, I don't think it's a feasible project for the the WMF. The Foundation hosts sites that are volunteer community generated